US, Iraq Long-Term Security Deal Abandoned

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First Posted: 07-13-08 10:17 AM   |   Updated: 07-21-08 05:12 AM

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The Washington Post reports that the U.S. and Iraq have abandoned attempts to forge a long-term security agreement. The focus is now on a "bridge document" that would provide for basic military operations after the UN mandate expires at the end of this year, and it would fall to the next administration to deal with any extended security agreement:

U.S. and Iraqi negotiators have abandoned efforts to conclude a comprehensive agreement governing the long-term status of U.S troops in Iraq before the end of the Bush presidency, according to senior U.S. officials, effectively leaving talks over an extended U.S. military presence there to the next administration.


In place of the formal status-of-forces agreement negotiators had hoped to complete by July 31, the two governments are now working on a "bridge" document, more limited in both time and scope, that would allow basic U.S. military operations to continue beyond the expiration of a U.N. mandate at the end of the year.

The failure of months of negotiations over the more detailed accord -- blamed on both the Iraqi refusal to accept U.S. terms and the complexity of the task -- deals a blow to the Bush administration's plans to leave in place a formal military architecture in Iraq that could last for years.

Although President Bush has repeatedly rejected calls for a troop withdrawal timeline, "we are talking about dates," acknowledged one U.S. official close to the negotiations. Iraqi political leaders "are all telling us the same thing. They need something like this in there. . . . Iraqis want to know that foreign troops are not going to be here forever."


The increasing need for more troops in Afghanistan to combat a resurgent Taliban may force the Bush Administration to accelerate the rate of troop withdrawal from Iraq:

The Bush administration is considering the withdrawal of additional combat forces from Iraq beginning in September, according to administration and military officials, raising the prospect of a far more ambitious plan than expected only months ago.


Such a withdrawal would be a striking reversal from the nadir of the war in 2006 and 2007.

One factor in the consideration is the pressing need for additional American troops in Afghanistan, where the Taliban and other fighters have intensified their insurgency and inflicted a growing number of casualties on Afghans and American-led forces there.

More American and allied troops died in Afghanistan than in Iraq in May and June, a trend that has continued this month...

...The desire to move more quickly reflects the view of many in the Pentagon who want to ease the strain on the military but also to free more troops for Afghanistan and potentially other missions.


The Washington Post reports that the U.S. and Iraq have abandoned attempts to forge a long-term security agreement. The focus is now on a "bridge document" that would provide for basic military opera...
The Washington Post reports that the U.S. and Iraq have abandoned attempts to forge a long-term security agreement. The focus is now on a "bridge document" that would provide for basic military opera...
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We will prevail in this conflict and become a more powerful and united nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 07/13/2008

I thought you people didn't like (the) united nations?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 07/13/2008
- BabsfromKS I'm a Fan of BabsfromKS 14 fans permalink
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I'm curious - who is "you people"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 07/13/2008
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I'm never sure who "you people" is, but I personally think the United Nations is an inept, possibly corrupt, group of pampered diplomats that exists in a shell of state supported free ride money. Besides UNICEF, point to anything positive. They haven't done anything in Darfur, or with the iranians. I'm open to a listing of success stories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 07/13/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

ROFL! That's the best laugh I've had all day! Do you do the comedy circuit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 07/13/2008
- LaFeminazi I'm a Fan of LaFeminazi 236 fans permalink
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ROFLMFAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 07/13/2008
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I assume by "we", you mean the patriotic Iraqis trying to expel the petro-mercenaries from their country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 07/13/2008

you dont have to be sarcastic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 07/13/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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Bush blew the entire real War on Terror with his stupid Iraq adventure and let bin-Laden escape along with so many others at Tora Bora, it was a major disgrace and nobody has really addressed it...

He's gonna leave us with one huge mess and go play on his ranch in Texas...

There's a great tune by Tom Pacheco on his MYSPACE site When You're Back on Your Ranch in Texas..it says it all go check it out...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 07/13/2008
- ROBOT8 I'm a Fan of ROBOT8 18 fans permalink
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THERE WERE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, THERE ARE NO TALIBAN IN IRAQ, THERE IS OIL IN IRAQ, IN IRAN, IN AFGANISTAN AND IN TURKEY, THERE IS NO MORE MONEY LEFT IN THE TREASURY. WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE. RUSSIA IS EXPANDING, WEALTHY AND POWERFUL. CHINA IS EXPANDING,WEALTHY AND POWERFUL. INDIA IS EXPANDING ,WEALTHY AND POWERFUL..­..........­..........­...AMERICA IS CONTRACTING, POOR AND IMPOTENT

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 07/13/2008
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Instead of wasting your time posting in all caps, start a business to make us more competitive. We need more basket weaving companies and glue distributors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 07/13/2008
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judging by the sheer ineptness of this administration, I'd say we have plenty of glue- we just need to get them to quit sniffing it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/13/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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I don't care who you are or what you are saying, and I won't until you stop screaming at us!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 07/13/2008
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Dolly Parton herself says that she carries with her weapons of mass distraction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 07/13/2008
- Oilygarch I'm a Fan of Oilygarch 5 fans permalink
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Wait! But, they did find BOTULIN TOXIN!!

They raided the office clinic of this plastic surgeon right before he was going to use it on some poor, I mean, rather rich patients.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 07/13/2008
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Bush ever have the authority to enter into a treaty with a foreign power without the approval of congress? Isn't that blatantly unconstitutional?

Not that President Forrest Gump cares about the constitution. But still.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 07/13/2008
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Why is everyone complaining? The promised us a quick war - paid with Iraqi oil money - and cheap gas. Mission Accomplished, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 07/13/2008
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The "war" was quick, and a real victory for our troop. The occupation has been the bitch. I don't recollect the "cheap gas" promise. I wasn't for going in, but I don't remember that as an argument. Gas was cheap then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 07/13/2008
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The "war" was quick, and a real victory for our troop. The occupation has been the b_itch (forgot the curse word filter). I don't recollect the "cheap gas" promise. I wasn't for going in, but I don't remember that as an argument. Gas was cheap then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 07/13/2008
- BWonka I'm a Fan of BWonka 118 fans permalink
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Gas was cheap then.

Just like the failed promises of the Bu$hCo Crime family - cheap gas from their collective butttts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 07/13/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 268 fans permalink

it came from FOX... 20 buck a barrel oil forever.


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 07/13/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 153 fans permalink

The quick victory was nothing. All the military experts Bush dismissed said the real challenge would come after a quick victory. It is amazing you were conveniently not for the war, but now argue for whatever it is you are arguing for. Our country and military can not sustain these commitments. It leaves an impoverished naton to all our children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 07/13/2008
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well, we're a bunch of whiners and it's all in our heads

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/13/2008
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Obama told you so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 07/13/2008

Whatever Maliki or Bush say is static. It's best to turn off the sound, quit reading the propaganda, and simply get out a map and watch the troop movements. The war for oil is in progress and the Bush/Cheney Oil_Twins have hit the beaches and trying to flank those sitting on the oil - even the new missile batteries in the Czech Republic and expansion of Kandahar. The misdirection trick is to claim that we are under attack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 07/13/2008
- emmav70 I'm a Fan of emmav70 5 fans permalink

We need Barack Obama as Commander in Chief YESTERDAY !!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 07/13/2008
- Zen66 I'm a Fan of Zen66 2 fans permalink

So we won one? Without the congress having to stand up to Bush. Obama's hands won't be tied by an illegal treaty? Damn, the Iraqi government asserts itself and demands Bush stand by his words to allow Iraq to get its sovereignty. What will the oil companies do now? Maliki needs to watch his back or he will become the next Butcher of Baghdad on Bush's must wanted list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 07/13/2008
- maxdenn I'm a Fan of maxdenn 160 fans permalink

So our prez has given the green light for Israel to attack Iran. Sort of makes an Iraq security deal not very relevant. No? The big question now is not Iraq. It's what the Israeli government will do, and when they are going to do it. So now we have the Israeli government guiding our foreign policy. Quite frankly... I don't like it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 07/13/2008
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I could have sworn I posted something on this thread. Must have been all in my head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 07/13/2008
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Must have been a "mental" posting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 07/13/2008
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'Whiner'! lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 07/13/2008
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It was probably on-topic, cogent and contained multi-sylabic words. Don't expect to see it come up for at least a couple of hours ... or not at all.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 07/13/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 357 fans permalink
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Looks like the result is ... not at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 07/13/2008
- reliant1 I'm a Fan of reliant1 24 fans permalink
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This temporary bridge to patch us up past the expiration of our mandate in Dec....

Temporary.

Waiting for Obama, Reed and Hagel to arrive and bless it.

No chance for permanent treaties until after he's elected.

Iraq isn't even pretending. They're just treading water and waiting. They just threw Bush under the metaphorical bus and are waiting for the real President to treat with in Jan.

Lamed duck gets runover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 07/13/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 109 fans permalink

As long as our boys come home in one piece, I don't care what the hell they call this. When I look at the pictures of all the children we have killed, I feel sick and wish I could bring them back.

I DO NOT WANT ANYMORE WAR now or in the future! Our country should go on strike against war and no one should volunteer to war anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 07/13/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

War is barbarous ... there are no winners!! So, does this resemble Mc's "victor" rant!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/13/2008
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War is barbarous. Would you have wanted us to go to war to prevent the Rwanda ethnic cleansing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 07/13/2008
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The Corporations that make the impliments of war make a HUGH profit. And the Repubs are all about profits to the wealthy. That's why the poor have to fight these wars.

Take a look at Haliburtons financial statements for the last two years to see who the winners are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 07/13/2008

Sorry to tell you but our troops will just be reassigned to afganistan where they belonged in the first place.They­ll be no relief for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 07/13/2008
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So true.

But with a new CIC who is competent and smart enough to listen to and appoint advisers who do more than pay lip service to and offer empty promises of help to the troops will help them a lot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 07/13/2008
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Bring'em home!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 07/13/2008
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So I guess maybe Iraq isn't going to be the new South Korea after all?

So it turns out that their big picture for a victory in Iraq, a permanent presence in the center of the middle east, is in big trouble too.

So they are going to push it off to the next administration. But what will that administration do? Well it is clear that an Obama administration would be looking to be able to complete their goal of being out in 16 months and a McCain administration would be looking for an angle to get them to stretch it out for years and years and, well, why not a hundred years?

One candidate sees victory as being able to leave, another sees victory as being able to stay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 07/13/2008
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