Biden Praises Obama's Spine, Tells McCain To Study History

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First Posted: 07-15-08 04:18 PM   |   Updated: 07-23-08 05:12 AM

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Sen. Joseph Biden started his speech to the Center for U.S. Global Engagement on Tuesday with the caveat that he is not an Obama insider. But he certainly played the part.

Saying that he knew the Illinois Democrat well from their time together on the campaign trail, Biden said of Obama, he "has the judgment, he has the intellect, which no one doubts, and I guarantee you he has the steel in his spine to lead this country of ours out of the deep hole we have dug ourselves into."

His Obama testimony now complete, Biden-the-surrogate turned to the other task at hand: ripping apart the foreign policy of Sen. John McCain. At times, his critique was scathing, accusing the presumptive Republican nominee of lacking the basic gravitas and intellectual capacity to navigate the choppy international waters.

"President Bush and Sen. McCain lump all the threats together," said Biden. "Al Qaeda, the Shia militia, listen to them speak. Listen to my friend Joe Lieberman, and he really is a friend, listen to them speak. Find me a distinction that they make. As a consequence of this profound confusion they make profound mistakes. The idea that al Qaeda will cooperate with the philistine, a guy who in fact used to run the country in Iraq, the guy who did away with the caliphate... is completely contrary to anything that the now-dead leader of Iraq had in mind. It's dangerous. How can we run a sound foreign policy without understanding these decisions? How can we talk about a Shiite-dominated nation cooperating with a Sunni dominated Wahabi sect of Islam as if they had anything in common? Yet listen to my friends, listen to the president, listen to Joe Lieberman, listen to John McCain. Ladies and gentlemen, if they can't define the enemy we are fighting it is very difficult to define whether we have won or lost."

It was a vintage Biden performance, with theatrical and abrupt changes in tone tempered by equally dramatic pauses. Defying the conventional wisdom that foreign policy critiques must come in digestible sound bites, he walked the crowd (already well-versed in Middle East affairs) through what he presented as the major fallacies in the McCain doctrine. Much time was spent on Iran.

"I find it fascinating, the twisted logic of my friends on the other side talking about how this allows Iran to fight a proxy war against us in Iraq," Biden roared. "Huh? Guess what. What more would Iran like than the continuation of a 140,000 to 160,000 Americans in Iraq, bogged down in Iraq, no end in sight. Tell me how much Ahmadinejad would like to inherit a fractured Iraq. Study history. The premises upon which they rationalize I find breathtaking. The idea that John [McCain] and Joe [Lieberman] are going to eliminate any vestige of Iranian influence in Iraq, bless me father for I have sinned. Are they unaware of a border that has existed there for millennium? Are they unaware of the fact that our guy, Maliki is inviting Ahmadinejad to Baghdad and kissing him on both cheeks, literally not figuratively. Are they unaware of the fact that this government in Iraq feels compelled to visit Tehran to explain what it is that they are attempting to do with a long-term security agreement?"

Biden did not address, directly, rumors of his high place on Barack Obama's short list of vice presidential candidates, choosing instead to make light of being flanked on the Washington Post's rankings by two women: Hillary Clinton and Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius. And he started the speech off with an ode to his own White House run, openly wondering how he, "the most qualified man to be president," could end up in the role of campaign surrogate.

"I don't know what I'm doing here," he told the crowd.

Sen. Joseph Biden started his speech to the Center for U.S. Global Engagement on Tuesday with the caveat that he is not an Obama insider. But he certainly played the part. Saying that he knew the Ill...
Sen. Joseph Biden started his speech to the Center for U.S. Global Engagement on Tuesday with the caveat that he is not an Obama insider. But he certainly played the part. Saying that he knew the Ill...
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- genia I'm a Fan of genia 27 fans permalink
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I love Biden...al­ways have. He has brains and balls. He's quick on his feet, there is an honesty about him and there is a warm to him.
Damn shame about the one thing in his clost though...I don't care but I know other democrats who could not vote for the man because of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 07/15/2008
- genia I'm a Fan of genia 27 fans permalink
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oh my...I edited the spelling in that post ...it didn't show up
sorry about the spelling..­..keyboard issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 07/15/2008
- HallStyle I'm a Fan of HallStyle 11 fans permalink
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I've like Joe Biden but I LOVE DENNIS K. Now I know Dennis K. has absolutely no chance of being VP nor do I think he would except but man that would be nice. Although That senator from Indiana Evan Byah whatever could be a could candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 07/15/2008
- PuppaX I'm a Fan of PuppaX 7 fans permalink
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I'm with you on DK; he's awesome. I miss seeing him in those debates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 07/15/2008
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 84 fans permalink
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Joe Biden would be a great VP, and as Obama's running mate, he has the maturity factor that would satisfy those who think Obama is too young and inexperienced. Biden would bring a lot of votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 07/15/2008
- Vurt I'm a Fan of Vurt permalink

Joe Biden never completes sentences.
this is why he is not the candidate.
One thing at a time please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 07/15/2008

Joe Biden never fails to let you know exactly what he thinks,he is well versed in world affairs and is one of the most thought provoking speakers I have ever heard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 07/15/2008
- wanttruth I'm a Fan of wanttruth 43 fans permalink

Joe Biden would be a great choice for VP. He's knowledgeable, experienced, blunt, and likeable. Besides, the traditional role of VP is that of "attack dog" during the General Election. Joe Biden fits that bill perfectly! He knows how to articulate a message and he's got the experience necessary to go toe-to-toe with anyone McCain chooses. Furthermore, Biden is a hard worker with value policy credentials necessary to be an effective Vice President or a member of Obama's cabinet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 07/15/2008
- mpgarr I'm a Fan of mpgarr 3 fans permalink

Biden was my favorite Dem candidate----I so wish he could have prevaled in his bid but that was not to be!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 PM on 07/15/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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Please, please, please....­name him the next Secretary of state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 07/15/2008
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 136 fans permalink

Give 'em hell Sen. Biden! Enough with the lies and the complete incompetence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 07/15/2008
- Texas4Obama I'm a Fan of Texas4Obama 101 fans permalink
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I think if there was an Obama/Biden ticket someone (republicans) could find fault with the two names together on the ticket. I HOPE NOT!

Obama / Biden
Osama BI(nla)DEN

Get it?

I am 100% for Obama for president.
I don't won't to see Obama do anything that the republicans can use against him!

OBAMA/Sebelius '08
or
OBAMA/Clark '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 07/15/2008
- NotMcCain I'm a Fan of NotMcCain 73 fans permalink
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Obama/ Clark is better than Biden or Sibelius for VP.

Biden is good, but has never worked "for" anyone. A weakness in a VP, at this stage.

Sibelius? Good (but not as good, imo, as McCaskill). But just a reminder for the media to stoke that it's Not Hillary.

Clark? Great choice. Can we please bring him back? Now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 07/15/2008
- 111 I'm a Fan of 111 34 fans permalink

well now that you have given them the idea we'll see what happens if Biden is on the ticket.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 07/15/2008
- tc399 I'm a Fan of tc399 17 fans permalink
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After all is said and done, it's still about money. If we have no country, the 1% who have all the money can move to the south of France.

Then we will be no better than Somalia. Vote for the Constitution. Bush never read it. McCain can't remember it. Obama hs chosen to COMPROMISE on it, but we can make him be the President he promised to be if we are actually deserving of freedom and civil rights.

My money is now going to the ACLU, but I believe that when Obama realizes that it's the Constitution or anarchy, he will support the Constitution. If not, we have Hillary in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 07/15/2008
- genia I'm a Fan of genia 27 fans permalink
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Obama compromise­...LOL...o­h my....and in caps no doubt.
I don't pick a candidate who always agrees with my views...I chose a candidate for his judgment his character. Obama strikes me as an honest, well intended up front guy. He is smart, he is even keeled....­..he has leadership qualities that make him stand out.
As for Hillary...­..in 2012. The republicans would be doing cartwheels. Behind closed doors there would be campaign flowing.
The have vaults full of stuff to bring them down
Here...thi­s pic was taken June 27th (?) TMZ took the pic.
Where is this man's brain?
http://www.strangepolitics.com/content/item/139629.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 07/15/2008
- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 74 fans permalink

Now that is strange!! (I mean the picture of Clinton holding hands with "that woman". There must be an explanation. He looks unhappy and she looks--dazed and confused?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 07/16/2008
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I've been saying for weeks now...Bide­n is a power player. VP material ... presidential material. He's got the right stuff.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2009-2013

OBAMA/SEBELLIUS 2012-2016

CLINTON/BAYH 2017-????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 07/15/2008

The man is brilliant-- why don't we as a people bow to the knees of the brilliant? why do we instead bend to mediocrity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 07/15/2008

Biden; the only one with a "pair"!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 07/15/2008
- KBAR I'm a Fan of KBAR 28 fans permalink
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Jesse has 4 now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 07/15/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Yeah, he got yours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 07/15/2008
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I heard Hillary has 3, plus testicular fortitude to boot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 07/15/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

I agree, a great politician and real PATRIOT. He is not perfect, but he is even better than Obama, in my view.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 07/15/2008
- Quilter I'm a Fan of Quilter 11 fans permalink
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Wow! I love Joe Biden...He­'s so well versed. Makes me want to rent 1776 again! Go get em' Joe.

Obama/ Biden...Ni­ce ring. And they're both fantastic orators who are capable of breaking it down for the people.

Gore was my first choice...A­ny body seen John lately? I really like Jim Webb, oh well...The Democrats have got to get their teeth back...Loo­ks like Biden is chomping at the bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 07/15/2008

Biden is the best potential - VP, Sect of State, and in my view was the best Presidential candidate.

He has the wisdom and the courage, tempered with humor, and self-reflection we need in the capital.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 07/16/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

History Lesson
Geography Lesson
Math Lesson
Economics Lesson
Political Science Lesson
Online Tutorial Lesson
Psychology Lesson- Well he has been practicing on the American people

Did I leave out any. I thin that covers all the lesson McCain needs

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 07/15/2008
- tc399 I'm a Fan of tc399 17 fans permalink
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Civics.
Constitutional law
AMERICAN history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 07/15/2008
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