Lieberman Rips Obama: His Lack Of Conviction Puts Nation In Peril

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First Posted: 07-15-08 02:23 PM   |   Updated: 07-23-08 05:12 AM

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Despite rumblings that his advocacy for John McCain could lead to his ouster from the Democratic Party, Joseph Lieberman continued on Tuesday to take broad swipes at Barack Obama.

In a speech before the Center for U.S. Global Engagement, Lieberman described the presumptive Democratic nominee as a politician who was consistently wrong on foreign affairs and whose policy proposals -- had they been put in place - would have put America at great risk.

"I've been following Sen. Obama's comments in this campaign and particularly in the last months since the primaries were over," said Lieberman. "And I wish he would just say that the surge has worked. He doesn't have to give credit to John McCain or anyone else. He can give credit to General Petraeus and the troops who have carried it out. I wish he would acknowledge the surge is working, rather than changing his position on how and when we should exit Iraq, without acknowledging that these are changes of positions that are understandably based on conditions on the ground. A president's credibility is based on the courage of his or her convictions, his or her acceptance of reality, and consistency of views are critical elements of national leadership. A president who squanders those does so at our nation's peril."

Lieberman's remarks came just hours after Obama had delivered a foreign policy address of his own, in which the Illinois Democrat reiterated his desire to see a responsible phased withdrawal of troops from Iraq and a greater emphasis on the conflict in Afghanistan.

Working off of Obama's address, Lieberman accused him not only of being unwilling to acknowledge the success of the troop surge, but also for being inconsistent in his foreign policy approach. The 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee then offered nearly half a dozen direct questions to the Illinois Democrat that mimicked, in large part, talking points that the McCain campaign has been using with great frequency.

"Sen. Obama said this morning that he wants a foreign policy that is tough, smart and principled," said Lieberman. "This afternoon I want to ask my colleague who I respect and like a couple of direct questions: Was it tough when Sen. Obama voted to order U.S. troops to retreat from Iraq on a fixed timeline regardless of the recommendations of our military commanders or conditions on the ground? Was it smart when Sen. Obama opposed the surge and predicted that it would fail to improve our security? ... Was it tough and principled when Sen. Obama said he would be open to changing his plan on Iraq after going there and talking to General Petraeus, which I think was the right position, only to change that position hours later after being heatedly criticized by organizations like MoveOn.org? I say respectfully the answer to all those questions is, no."

Despite rumblings that his advocacy for John McCain could lead to his ouster from the Democratic Party, Joseph Lieberman continued on Tuesday to take broad swipes at Barack Obama. In a speech before ...
Despite rumblings that his advocacy for John McCain could lead to his ouster from the Democratic Party, Joseph Lieberman continued on Tuesday to take broad swipes at Barack Obama. In a speech before ...
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Don't worry about Lieberman. In six months, he'll be the chairman of paper clips.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 07/15/2008

I think that's what Dean thought in the summer of 2006. Oups, so much for those best laid plans...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 07/15/2008
- kallopolis I'm a Fan of kallopolis 2 fans permalink

Why are we even listening to Lieberman?

The guy is a failed VP candidate who lost his Democratic primary, and at this point is losing all of his credibility by lying about Obama's record.

These stories are non-stories until McCain makes him his VP candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 07/15/2008

Exactly - to your logic, why are listening to Gore ... I mean the man is a failed *presidential* candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 07/15/2008

Gore won the presidency, but it was stolen by the Supreme Court, also Gore won a Nobel Peace prize. Rest assured Lieberman will never, ever win a Nobel Peace prize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 07/15/2008
- ffny I'm a Fan of ffny 2 fans permalink

He is a person who truly suffers from "Verbal Diarrhea".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 07/15/2008

Take this to the bank, Lieberman has exactly 5 months left to enjoy his committee chairmanships. After this election the party will disavow him.

The reason that the Dems cannot do this now is because, I believe, though he is officially an Independent, Lieberman caucuses with the Democrats. That is one of the reasons the Dems have their wafer-thin majority and enjoy majority status. If he were to become a Republican, the balance of power in the Senate changes.

I also think Lieberman knows that if he were to do that, now there would be a recall vote in his home state.

By the way, anybody wanna bet that he becomes McCain's running-mate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 07/15/2008
- AtheistUS I'm a Fan of AtheistUS 68 fans permalink
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Lieberman and the rest of 77 senators who voted for Iraq war should be in jail, or at least kicked from the senate. Here they are, guilty in dumping our country (and Iraq) into disaster for their political comfort:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237
I am of Jewish ethnicity, and my sincere sympathy to Israel is not in any way standing on my progressive liberal democratic views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 07/15/2008

As if we needed any more proof that Lieberman really is a Republican. He's resorted to a basic Republican/fascist tactic: Don't discusses facts; instead, cast aspersions -- no matter how baseless -- on your opponent's character.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 07/15/2008
- jp5472 I'm a Fan of jp5472 28 fans permalink
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Fact check: Of the eighteen benchmarks that were supposed to be met in order to deem the surge a success, only three have been met..three­...that is a .167 batting average.

Government Benchmarks: 2 of 8 Accomplished

1. Perform constitutional review. Unmet

2. Enact de-Ba’athification reform. Partial

4. Form semi-autonomous regions. Unmet

5. Hold provincial elections. Unmet

6. Address amnesty. Unmet

8. Establish support for Baghdad Security Plan. Met

16. Ensure minority rights in Iraqi legislature. Met

18. Keep Iraqi Security Forces free from partisan interference. Unmet

Security Benchmarks: 1 of 8 Accomplished

7. Disarm militias. Unmet

9. Provide military support in Baghdad. Partial

10. Empower Iraqi Security Forces. Partial

11. Ensure impartial law enforcement. Unmet

12. Establist support for Baghdad Security Plan by Maliki government. Unmet

13. Reduce sectarian violence. Partial

14. Establish neighborhood security in Baghdad. Met

15. Increase independent Iraqi Security Focres. Unmet

Our media and our Congress continue to fail in holding anyone to the facts/truth about what was supposed to be met for the surge to be a success. Walking around saying it's a success (and having the media not follow up on ANY of this) does not make it a success.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 07/15/2008
- jp5472 I'm a Fan of jp5472 28 fans permalink
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In my effort to get within the 250 word limit I accidentally left this off...(sor­ry)

Economic Benchmarks: 0 of 2 Accomplished

3. Implement oil legislation. Unmet

17. Distribute Iraqi resources equitably. Partial

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 07/15/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 172 fans permalink

This post should appear at the top of EVERY article that claims the surge was a "success". A perfect cure for surge amnesia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 07/15/2008
- ShamusNYC I'm a Fan of ShamusNYC 12 fans permalink

Great analysis - I hope that they pick up on these points in the MSM via Democratic surrogates (Joe Biden - are you reading this?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 07/15/2008

The surge isn't working because he says it is. It isn't working because the media allocates a couple of minutes a day to it. The surge isn't working because major American oil companies can now have access to Iraq's oil. No, the surge isn't working because it is impossible to solve a tribal conflict in a land that you are occupying. The surge is a joke. Give it a name, keep saying that it's a success, and deprive the public of the facts... that's a surge if disinformation. Something that we aren't short of. The surge... what a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 07/15/2008
- Faith101 I'm a Fan of Faith101 5 fans permalink

Joe is still trying to stay relevant. Nobody is listening, if he speaks at the RNC he is all but gone from the dem party anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 07/15/2008

Every time I see this face on a story I always think the same thing. They should make them comments are closed like they do for people who have passed away. All we should put for comments are four letter words. He deserves nothing else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 07/15/2008
- IowaKid I'm a Fan of IowaKid 18 fans permalink
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Why do the democrats allow this man to stay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 07/15/2008
- lthuedk 1 I'm a Fan of lthuedk 1 63 fans permalink
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Maybe ongoing litigation?

Flight risks all. Keep them out of Borneo or Paraguay. Does the I.C.C. hold sway?

http://www.light-to-dark.com/a_retrospective.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 07/16/2008
- mydoglucky I'm a Fan of mydoglucky 5 fans permalink
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Senator Lierbmann is really getting on my last nerve.....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 PM on 07/15/2008
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He's still fuming over getting roughed up in the Senate a month ago, it put a dent in his 'Joementum­.'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 07/15/2008

Can somebody please call the doctor for Joe, he seems to be losing it. Joe! please go away. It is amazing that when Joe was the vp nominee to Al, he lacked the backbone to attack his Republican counterpart, then all of a sudden, he has transformed himself after eight years of such behavior into an attack dog for McCain.

Look Joe, if you are angling for another vp shot, forget it. It ain't gonna happen unless you are looking for a job under president McCain given that your political future in CT is dismal, again, it will not happen because Obama will win. That will make you a double loser...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 07/15/2008
- tubette I'm a Fan of tubette 8 fans permalink
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It's so sad we have to hear anything he has to say.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 07/15/2008
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