Lieberman Rips Obama: His Lack Of Conviction Puts Nation In Peril

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First Posted: 07-15-08 02:23 PM   |   Updated: 07-23-08 05:12 AM

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Despite rumblings that his advocacy for John McCain could lead to his ouster from the Democratic Party, Joseph Lieberman continued on Tuesday to take broad swipes at Barack Obama.

In a speech before the Center for U.S. Global Engagement, Lieberman described the presumptive Democratic nominee as a politician who was consistently wrong on foreign affairs and whose policy proposals -- had they been put in place - would have put America at great risk.

"I've been following Sen. Obama's comments in this campaign and particularly in the last months since the primaries were over," said Lieberman. "And I wish he would just say that the surge has worked. He doesn't have to give credit to John McCain or anyone else. He can give credit to General Petraeus and the troops who have carried it out. I wish he would acknowledge the surge is working, rather than changing his position on how and when we should exit Iraq, without acknowledging that these are changes of positions that are understandably based on conditions on the ground. A president's credibility is based on the courage of his or her convictions, his or her acceptance of reality, and consistency of views are critical elements of national leadership. A president who squanders those does so at our nation's peril."

Lieberman's remarks came just hours after Obama had delivered a foreign policy address of his own, in which the Illinois Democrat reiterated his desire to see a responsible phased withdrawal of troops from Iraq and a greater emphasis on the conflict in Afghanistan.

Working off of Obama's address, Lieberman accused him not only of being unwilling to acknowledge the success of the troop surge, but also for being inconsistent in his foreign policy approach. The 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee then offered nearly half a dozen direct questions to the Illinois Democrat that mimicked, in large part, talking points that the McCain campaign has been using with great frequency.

"Sen. Obama said this morning that he wants a foreign policy that is tough, smart and principled," said Lieberman. "This afternoon I want to ask my colleague who I respect and like a couple of direct questions: Was it tough when Sen. Obama voted to order U.S. troops to retreat from Iraq on a fixed timeline regardless of the recommendations of our military commanders or conditions on the ground? Was it smart when Sen. Obama opposed the surge and predicted that it would fail to improve our security? ... Was it tough and principled when Sen. Obama said he would be open to changing his plan on Iraq after going there and talking to General Petraeus, which I think was the right position, only to change that position hours later after being heatedly criticized by organizations like MoveOn.org? I say respectfully the answer to all those questions is, no."

Despite rumblings that his advocacy for John McCain could lead to his ouster from the Democratic Party, Joseph Lieberman continued on Tuesday to take broad swipes at Barack Obama. In a speech before ...
Despite rumblings that his advocacy for John McCain could lead to his ouster from the Democratic Party, Joseph Lieberman continued on Tuesday to take broad swipes at Barack Obama. In a speech before ...
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Despite having failed to meet the established benchmarks to prove the Surge worked, despite the fact that it has cost us our modest success in Afghanistan and reduced our effectiveness in Pakistan and reduced our overall military effectiveness levels, Lieberman would have us believe it worked. Maybe he was at those Secret Cheney Energy Policy meetings where they discussed the plan to get oil contracts from Iraqi Kurds and that's why he is saying it worked. Since we don't have any record of who was there, nor what was said, let him prove he means something else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/15/2008
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WELL SAID!!! GREAT POINT!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 07/15/2008
- kinnycut I'm a Fan of kinnycut 14 fans permalink
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We are not any safer with a leader that is slowly losing his mind either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 07/15/2008
- truegreen I'm a Fan of truegreen 25 fans permalink

Its time we put pressure on Harry Reid to oust McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 07/15/2008
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...and Lieberman!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 07/15/2008
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that's funny

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 07/15/2008
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Surge Leiberman to the opposite side of the aisle.

It appears on CSPAN about two weeks ago that Obama confronted Lieberman and read him the riot act. Joe is going to go. So we only net 6, not 7 Dem senators in November, at least we'll have eliminated one warmonger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/15/2008
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Joe Lieberman questioning Obama's convictions is like G.W. Bush questioning Albert Einstein's intelligence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 07/15/2008

ROFLMAO! Bravo, humuhumu...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 07/15/2008
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Exact-a-mundo my funny friend!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 07/15/2008
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Spot on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 07/16/2008
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Maybe it's best that Al Gore lost in 2000. Otherwise, we might be facing a Lieberman Presidency this year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 07/15/2008
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I never thought of that. Every cloud has a silver lining. Is he hoping to be McCain's VP pick?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 07/15/2008
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Has Al Gore ever explained his decision to put Lieberman so close to the presidency? What the trade-offs were? The key considerations?

Lieberman didn't suddenly turn into what one sees today -- he was ever thus.

I love Al Gore as much as the next progressive -- more, probably -- and though I'm no fan of the Clinton administration for so, so many reasons, I admire Mr. Gore's post-DLC career, notably his early, forceful opposition to the Iraq invasion, and of course, his historic global-warming advocacy.

But what was up with that Lieberman thing, Mister Vice President? Do you intend that we never know? What were you thinking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 07/15/2008

By overtly fomenting military conflict with Iran - at the behest of AIPAC - Lieberman has done more to put America at risk than any of Sen. Obama's statements.

Bush's pathetically bungled Iraq war has now lasted over 1-1/2 times as long as US
combat in WWII. After a year of significant US military escalation [NOT a "surge"]
we should now be able to withdraw from Iraq.

Our military's quasi-stabilization of Iraq was solely to provide an interval for Iraqis to craft needed political agreements. If that has not been achieved by now, then - as with the botched war itself - this military escalation has failed. In Bush-ese: "Mission Not Accomplished!"

BTW - Catchy article header should have read:
"Bush: Lack of Impeachment & Conviction [Continues to] Put Nation at Peril"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 07/15/2008
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Joe Lieberman is a man without a party.

Like that photo of the polar bear floating on an ever shrinking ice floe, he has no future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 07/15/2008
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awww...poor polar bear :0(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 07/15/2008

I'm sad for the polar bear, unfortunatley Lieberman's prospects as a lobbyist are much brighter than the poor polar bear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 07/15/2008

Duh...

Now that Lieberman has cleared all of that up for me I can vote with a clean conscience and an empty mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 07/15/2008
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Joe Lieberman should be stripped of any and all posts and comittee positions that he holds as a Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 07/15/2008
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As if the cowardly Dems are doing any thing to save the Constitution with their majority now, but Mr Magoo Reid is afraid Lieberman will switch parties if he's stripped and throw control to the Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 07/15/2008
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Actually, there are 49 Dems, 49 GOP, and 2 independents that vote with the Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 07/15/2008
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I think you are referring to the Blue Dog Democrats

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/15/2008

celticjag : http://liebermanmustgo.com/

Pass it on.


-ralph

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 07/15/2008
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So, Connecticut, how are you liking your American Zionist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 07/15/2008

Don't blame me, I voted Lamont...along with all the other Connecticut Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 07/15/2008
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Thank you for setting the record straight..............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/15/2008
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Joe Liebermaan is one slimy bastard whose only interest in America is how much Israel can get out of her.
I would gladly see him hanged as a traitor, for that is exactly what he is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 07/15/2008
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If conviction is the key to loving or saving your country, then why not praise every dictator that ever lived: Hitler and Stalin both had plenty of conviction, as have the rest of them. Osama bin Laden was loaded with conviction when he planned 9/11.

Political conviction can be a great thing, but If it is not tempered by decency, common sense and a keen, probing intelligence, it can lead to all the horrors we remember from the 20th century, and are now seeing continued into the 21st

"Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity. "

From "The Second Coming"
by William Butler Yeats

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 07/15/2008
- gouge I'm a Fan of gouge 9 fans permalink

marvelous- thank you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 07/15/2008

KUDOS to you!

Spot on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 07/15/2008
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Poor Joe

Caster peril for swine.

Doesn't sound kosher

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/15/2008
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" Puts Nation In Peril " No sir. Palestine has a better outlook now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/15/2008
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