McCain Ape Rape Joke Recalled By Sources

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First Posted: 07-15-08 06:37 PM   |   Updated: 07-23-08 05:12 AM

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News circulated fast late Tuesday afternoon that back in 1986, during his initial run for the Senate, John McCain allegedly told a crude joke about rape involving a woman's affection for an ape.

The story, which was reprised on the blog Rum, Romanism and Rebellion before being blasted out by Think Progress, goes like this: In an appearance before the National League of Cities and Towns in Washington D.C., McCain supposedly asked the crowd if they had heard "the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die?"

The punch line: "When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, "Where is that marvelous ape?"

Eeeshh. The joke, as one can imagine, did not go over well with various women's groups, which responded with indignation. But the McCain campaign denied that he had ever said the offensive gag.

"It's pretty obvious to us that this is a politically motivated sideshow," Torrie Clarke, McCain's spokeswoman at the time, said back in 1986. Till this day it has never been proven definitively true or false whether the Senator ever said the line.

The Huffington Post reached out to the original reporter in that story, Norma Coile (who after talking to multiple sources months after it was told wrote about the response to the rape joke in the Tuscon Citizen) to find out if she thought it was true.

"I'm not sure exactly what the wording was of the joke, but something was said. Some joke involving a rape and ape was said. Enough women repeated it to me at the time and the McCain campaign had a non-denial denial," said Coile, now with the Arizona Daily Star. "It came after his 'Seizure World' joke, in which he referred to the [retirement community] Leisure World as Seizure World... I just think it reinforced this idea that John McCain is humor-challenged. Whatever his qualities, he seems to have a tin ear for how these jokes will go over."

Indeed, while this anecdote occurred more than 20 years ago, McCain has occasionally found himself with his foot in his mouth throughout his time in public office. Back in 1998, he odiously declared before a GOP crowd: "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno."

More recently he joked that it might be good for the United States to keep exporting cigarettes to Iran as cancer would prove an effective weapon against that country's citizens.

But venturing into the extremely sensitive subject of rape and humor is not something that - even 22 years later - will endear McCain to the women voters his campaign has sought to recruit. And organizations in Arizona that weighed in on that 1986 line see it as another example of the Senator not being sensitive to female issues and concerns.

"I don't think we can say one example like that is indicative of someone's character. But certainly I think John McCain has made lots of quotes where he says jokes like that," said Linda Barter, head of the Arizona Women's Political Caucus, which objected to McCain's joke at the time. "Our organizational purpose, however, is to increase the number of elected and appointed women, and we support pro-choice women, so there is certainly a division there. John McCain has not been pro-choice or supportive of issues related to women's reproductive health."

News circulated fast late Tuesday afternoon that back in 1986, during his initial run for the Senate, John McCain allegedly told a crude joke about rape involving a woman's affection for an ape. The ...
News circulated fast late Tuesday afternoon that back in 1986, during his initial run for the Senate, John McCain allegedly told a crude joke about rape involving a woman's affection for an ape. The ...
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- eahce I'm a Fan of eahce 8 fans permalink

Is this the best the republicans have to offer? After eight years of bush it appears that the dumbing down has reached right to the top of this country's leadership. We are in serious trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 07/16/2008
- hank48188 I'm a Fan of hank48188 8 fans permalink

Is Obama the best the DEMS can offer? I guess DONNA BRAZILE thinks so, now she wants to bring the Party down with this idiocy, you should read her thoughts on this, she wrote this on NOV. 5, 2004. "WHY AMERICANS HATE DEMOCRATS" How To Tap Into The Obama Factor. http://www.slate.com/id/2109328

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 07/16/2008
- eahce I'm a Fan of eahce 8 fans permalink

I totally agree, the democrats in my opinion have lost all credibility with me after the 06 elections, they ran on getting out of Iraq, got elected and did nothing. They never stood up to bush. we have no checks and balances in our government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/16/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

after donna brazile ran gore's 2000 campaign into the ground, does anyone take her seriously?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 07/17/2008

These examples of jokes that continually put people down underlie a very angry man, one who has been angry for a very long time. I can't help but think that his experience as a prisoner produced an incredible rage that has never been addressed. Someone with these anger management problems cannot possibly be a commander -in-chief and leader of the free world. The rage frequently erupts whenever he percieves an attack and then he is unable to react appropriately. This problem is not the only one he has, but it is serious enough in itself to preclude him from assuming the most important leadership position in the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 07/16/2008
- hank48188 I'm a Fan of hank48188 8 fans permalink

Obama is damaged by being abandoned by both of his parents, that's why he became a "People Pleaser". Obama doesn't like to disappoint people, that's why he takes both side of every issue, that's why he claimed he hit the wrong button 6 TIMES on tough votes in the State Senate, trying to please everbody.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 07/16/2008
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that also explains how he voted over 4000+ times correctly ( ok minus the 132 'Present' votes I'm sure you would have brought up anyway.

4092 - 132 - 6 = ?

You do the math ( calculator not included )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/16/2008
- robotfog I'm a Fan of robotfog 23 fans permalink
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That's weird because you described me. Except, I find people pleasing extremely stressful, so I have to take meds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 07/16/2008
- bigbenny I'm a Fan of bigbenny 42 fans permalink
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I don't think he was abandoned by his mother, she sort of died.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 07/16/2008
- timm553 I'm a Fan of timm553 4 fans permalink

So, from this post is it fair to infer that you like disappointing people? It's not necessary to take both sides of an issue in order to "not disappoint". Taking the best of both sides and merging them is good form, in my opinion. That's the guy we need.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 07/16/2008
- Shayrae I'm a Fan of Shayrae 27 fans permalink
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You are exactly right about that, Hope. I agree with you 100%. We have had one arrogant hothead sitting in the WH for the last 7 and a half years and look where we are today. McCain, quite simply, is not presidential material.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 07/16/2008
- rbspickles I'm a Fan of rbspickles 9 fans permalink

This guy really HATES women! This (so-called) joke, calling his wife a cu*#, and then the viagra/birth control question. Any woman who votes for this bafoon needs her head examined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 07/16/2008
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Maybe you should contact "Hillary Supporters For McCain." Their stereotypical "woman scorned" agenda is more important than his love for women! As long as they prove a point, Hillary can run in 2012! If we are still around by then.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 07/16/2008
- jbcowan I'm a Fan of jbcowan 3 fans permalink

I'm not too concerned about what McSame did or said TWENTY years ago.....what scares me is what he is saying (and doing) today!

Have you ever seen him appear in public BY HIMSELF? Graham or Liberman or Cindy are always by his side, correcting his mis-statements, whispering in his ear.....this is NOT the guy that we should want in the White House !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 07/16/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

I almost wish these sources didn't bring it up.
If they didn't, odds are better than even that Mc'Cain would have used the "joke" again before the end of the month.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 07/16/2008
- Artos I'm a Fan of Artos 82 fans permalink

Kind of reminds me of Reagan. I swear Nancy stood so close to him because she had her hand up inside of his back so that she could manipulate his mouth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 07/17/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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The MSM are propping up McCain just like they did for GWB and at the end of the road, they are bent on giving us another dummy in the White House.

Just have to remind the press and those voters caught up in this "military service" dope that "The Hood Does Not Make A Monk".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 07/16/2008

I know that this is the only guy that Republicans have to support, but I would be so ashamed to be one right now with this guy as representation! Anyone who even thinks of voting for this idiot needs his, or HER, head examined!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 07/16/2008
- likeicare I'm a Fan of likeicare 8 fans permalink

If Obama had made a similar "joke," you can bet he would be crucified by the Rethuglicans for it.

Where's the outrage?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 07/16/2008
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The outrage is held hostage in the corporate media boardroom!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 07/16/2008
- emmaspeaks I'm a Fan of emmaspeaks 3 fans permalink

Well, he's a war hero and patriot. You're not allowed to point a finger at him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 07/16/2008
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You know they're going to find a something that Obama made 40 years ago; like lil Obama making a joke about 'caca'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 07/16/2008
- Veneita I'm a Fan of Veneita 8 fans permalink

When Bernie Mac made the gross jokes Obama caught hell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 07/18/2008

Where IS that marvelous Ape ... ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 07/16/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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Find enclosed in the "Double Talk Express"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 07/16/2008

I'd wager a lot of Iraqis would say he's in the White House, though "marvelous" might not be the first adjective they think of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 07/16/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Currently in the White House, except he isn't so marvelous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 07/16/2008
- wmbear I'm a Fan of wmbear 24 fans permalink

GREAT PICTURE OF THE YOUNGER MCCAIN...

On the Main Page....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 07/16/2008

As a comedian I'm also offended by that joke. Not, because it was about rape, but simply becuse it was INCREDIBLY not funny.
Best comedy duo in History, Mccain and Carlos Mencia

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 07/16/2008
- RobBob I'm a Fan of RobBob 7 fans permalink
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It does sound like something Mencia would say anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 07/16/2008
- TheBlackCat I'm a Fan of TheBlackCat 247 fans permalink
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"I'm also offended by that joke. Not because it was about rape, but simply becuse it was INCREDIBLY not funny."

LOL I can agree with that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 07/16/2008
- OverIt I'm a Fan of OverIt 73 fans permalink

There could be video but it still wouldn't make a lick of difference in this election. Months later, we are still hearing echoes of Obama's "bitter" comments at least once a week while each McCain "Gaffe-a-Day" is quickly "forgotten".

Short of soiling himself in the middle of a town hall meeting and crying for his mommy, I don't think any negative McCain story will be given the same kind of traction and scrutiny as a similar story regarding Obama.

It's been obvious for months, the rules are different for Sen. Obama. Thanks to the MSM's irresponsible coverage and skewed narrative, this election is about to elect or not elect Obama... with McCain getting the votes by default because the MSM refuses to cover him in earnest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 07/16/2008
- FirstShirt I'm a Fan of FirstShirt 63 fans permalink

This is another New Yorker moment. Which is more offensive: the original telling or putting it on the Internet now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 07/16/2008
- Navy26Yrs I'm a Fan of Navy26Yrs 4 fans permalink
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The original telling.

That's why it's on the internets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 07/16/2008

HA< HA< HA!!!!
that's right -- i searched it on the googles and it is in the internets...
;-))))))))­))))))))))­))))))
lmao
http://www.funwithwarcrimes.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 07/16/2008
- AxelDC I'm a Fan of AxelDC 79 fans permalink
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Forget about it being offensive, I don't even get the point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 07/16/2008

Wow, maybe McCain told a nasty joke 22 years ago. Grasping at straws?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 07/16/2008
- karma13612 I'm a Fan of karma13612 11 fans permalink

No, not grasping at straws.

Just pointing out that there is a pattern here that developed many, many years ago.

McCain.Doe­s.Not.Resp­ect.Women.­Period.

Thanks for the inspiration actually! This is going to become my new slogan for awhile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 07/16/2008
- Navy26Yrs I'm a Fan of Navy26Yrs 4 fans permalink
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There is nothing funny about rape. Even 20 years later. Talk with a rape victim who suffered the violent attack 20 years ago. The pain, anguish and fear continue throughout the victim's life.

McPain stands little or no chance of being elected POTUS. More and more of his explosive temper and feeble mind will be exposed.

Bring on the debates. Now that will be a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 07/16/2008
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You are right on the debates issue. With McCain's twenty years of Senate debate experience, it ought to be amusing to watch Obama, who takes on the likes of the girls at the View go one-on-one and explain the likes of no drilling, no reactors, no coal and no refineries to a country in recession and the cost of energy bankrupting families across the country.
He was easily knocked back on his heals by Hillary and only faired decently with the help of Hillary hostile moderators. So coddle was he, that SNL and stand-up comedians began doing riffs on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 07/16/2008
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You liberals have the most delightful propensity for making cute little games with the names of people you don't like. It seems to go to character and makes a joke of professed liberal philosophy. It puts all the rest of your thoughts and comment into perspective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 07/16/2008
- OlderWoman I'm a Fan of OlderWoman 6 fans permalink

Grasping at straws? Hardly. The man puts his foot into his mouth weekly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 07/16/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Considering that you guys went after O'bama in Kindergarten, not really.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 07/16/2008
- SirReal1 I'm a Fan of SirReal1 64 fans permalink

You are certainly living up to expectations with this comment.

As many of us familiar with your politics would expect, you missed the point entirely.

It is not "McCain told a nasty joke 22 years ago".

It is that McCain has been telling "nasty jokes" for at least 22 years!

If the MSM were to actually do some "investigative reporting" they would be able to cite examples of McCain's "Frat boy, Country Club, just having some fun with the boys (making jokes about Rape, minorities, and foreigners)" attempts at "humor" that are a central feature of his character, and HAVE BEEN for most of his adult life!

Get it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 07/16/2008
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Yep. You are grasping at straws.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 07/16/2008

Do you have verifiable evidence of jokes about "making jokes about Rape, minorities, and foreigners"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 07/16/2008
- emmaspeaks I'm a Fan of emmaspeaks 3 fans permalink

Sounds more like a fraternity boy than a war hero.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 07/16/2008

McCain's crass and inappropriate humor reminds me of that other frat boy in the white house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 07/16/2008
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