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First Posted: 07-16-08 03:19 PM   |   Updated: 07-24-08 05:12 AM

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Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working against Obama's candidacy. Ricki Lieberman is another matter.

Also a former Clinton "Hillraiser" (meaning she raised more than $100,000 for the campaign), Lieberman is keeping her own private hope alive with a daily email blast to supporters, entitled "Electability Watch," which features a cascade of negative articles and other items about Obama as a means to argue that superdelegates should change their minds in Denver and crown Clinton the nominee instead. A tipster who described them as "disgusting" sent a batch of recent "Electability Watch" emails to the Huffington Post. Their authenticity was confirmed in a phone conversation with Ms. Lieberman, who said her only desire is to "see a Democratic president in the White House" next year.

Any Democrat, perhaps, except Barack Obama -- or "BO aka Bush 3," as Lieberman repeatedly refers to him. The emails sometimes go out of their way to parrot some of the most hardcore attacks on Obama, including comments comparing Obama's planned nomination speech to Nazi-era rallies in Germany. In one email, she quotes messages from apparent Holocaust survivors:

I have heard from many Survivors and their children about the symbolism and implications of use of rules to undermine our core democratic values. Ellen Mendel wrote that "I was born under Hitler in Germany, and reading about the plans for the Obama throng in the stadium in Denver and the implications which have been spelled out, gives me the chills...the DNC will deliver the country to Obama on a platter. I wonder when it will hit them what pawns they have been in this Faustian tragedy.


Another, "As someone who escaped from France during WW ll, I hope that I'm not being over dramatic when I'm more than uneasy with stuff like Obama's possible Denver stadium theatrics and the calibrated negotiations going on about the convention."

Other emails from Lieberman cite Obama's "alliances with a cast of characters include Louis Farrahkan," and urge people to contact the German embassy to protest "Obama's grandiose, inappropriate hope" to speak at the Brandenburg Gate.

In an interview, Lieberman said it is incumbent upon the party's superdelegates to take another cold, hard look at which candidate will be more electable in the fall. Given that neither Obama nor Clinton managed to win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination, a switch from Obama to Clinton is a technical possibility that nevertheless seems highly improbable.

A spokesperson for Sen. Clinton implicitly distanced the candidate from Lieberman's effort, telling the Huffington Post: "Senator Clinton fully supports Senator Obama. She continues to urge all of her supporters to get behind him. ... She continues to do everything she can to rally folks behind him. We don't support any effort that doesn't."

Still, Lieberman presses on each and every day with her emails, signing off each one with an exhortation for her audience to "GO GO GO!!!" in their efforts to contact and persuade superdelegates. While Lieberman would not reveal the number of people on her list, she bragged in one email that her organization is "beginning to reach SDs [superdelegates] thousands of times a week."

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Lieberman's emails can also be unintentionally funny. In a recent edition, she advanced a theory that the reason Obama's fundraising operation has started to show some signs of wear is because all those small donors during the primary were, in truth, closet McCain supporters who, instead of donating to his foundering campaign, were trying to destroy the most formidable Democratic candidate (that being Clinton). "And now they do not have to contribute anymore," Lieberman wrote. "Some may have even gone back to funding McCain whose fundraising has gotten better and better. SIGH... Any takers for this theory???"

In her effort to be comprehensive, Lieberman once included two mutually exclusive views on one hot story, apparently because both positions reflected poorly on Obama. During the recent Jesse Jackson controversy -- in which the civil rights leader was caught expressing his desire to "cut [Obama's] nuts off" in a hot-mic moment before a television appearance -- Lieberman's email suggested in back to back items that the entire incident was engineered by Jackson and Obama as a cynical bit of propaganda and that the incident was a true reflection of a growing displeasure among key black leaders with his candidacy.

Asked whether her relentless tearing down of Obama could potentially damage her oft-stated goal of seeing a Democratic president, Lieberman refused to concede the point. Ultimately, she described Obama as "unfit to be president."

So which is it? Does Lieberman want to see a Democratic president no matter what, or does she think it's important to advance the idea of Obama as unfit to lead?

"Well, it's both," she said. "Basically, my focus is on having her become the nominee."

What does Lieberman make of Clinton's campaigning on behalf of Obama?

"Well, look. A lot of people can say a lot of things and they do."

Does she share with some other Hillraisers a desire to see Clinton become Obama's running mate?

"I don't even think about it," adding that it's unseemly to speculate on such things before a nominee is officially crowned. As for the former Clinton supporters who are now backing Obama, Lieberman said "people are making different decisions, and I honor all of them."

But she certainly doesn't seem to honor Obama in her emails. Asked how she can justify being so dismissive of a fellow Democrat, she explained that her rhetorical fire stems from her certainty that Clinton would be 20 points ahead of McCain right now if she were the presumptive nominee, saying: "He's just not sealing the deal with the voters."

Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working agai...
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Beware,

The Noquarter Obama hate squad has been directed to post here in this "Action Alert: Defend Ricki Lieberman"

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/17/action-alert-defend-ricki-lieberman/

So as your read post here do so knowing the Tin Foil Hat squad is in the house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 07/17/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 32 fans permalink
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I just sign the pledge as "Great Satan"

they thanked me for my support

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 07/18/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 32 fans permalink
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just signed on and pledged $10 million dollars, in monopoly money

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 AM on 07/18/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

I need no blog or blogger to tell me to support Ricki. She's a great Democrat and is doing a great job rallying the troops. We want Hillary's name placed in nomination and voted on. If that offends you, then perhaps you should investigate the history of Democratic Party conventions or Republican ones, for that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 07/19/2008

Perhaps the most significant statement that comes out of the media is "she's out!'. The more the words seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless. She is still with us. What a depressing thought for the person who is running such as Mrs. Clinton who had to listen to this rubbish day in and day out. In the midst of having a liberal media, she also finds the mounting pressures from her own party. I said to Mrs. Clinton in a religious statement;" Take therefore no thought for the morrow; for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself." Matthew 6:34.

In the midst of what might be termed a "delegate anxiety" the supporters of Obama are scattering calling everybody a racist if they don't fall in line with Obama or as the native americans call him "Forked Mouth Flip Flop." Take a pill, chill out, the grassroots have just started, children. We know Senator Bayd from Indiana just signed his death sentence for re-election from the grassroots, okey, WHO'S NEXT!??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 07/17/2008

YES!!!

We will oppose any illegitimate nominee. At any time, for any party, of any race, or gender.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 07/18/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

I'm going to try one more time to get a post in here regarding this assinine group called the Hillraisers, who haven't raised a dollar for their candidate to help with her debt, but can raise all heck with O's supporters to vote for her at the convention.

NOT!

"If you are laboring under the GROSS MISCONCEPTION that Cristi Adkins is the lone voice in America that opposes Barack Obama’s candidacy – THINK AGAIN…

There are LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of us who are STANDING BY CRISTI’S SIDE IN THIS STRUGGLE to expose the TRUE Character of the insidious Demagogue that you obediently worship like the ‘trained donkeys’ that you’ve proven to be…

Trust me – THIS IS NOT THE FIGHT THAT YOU WANT TO PICK. "

The above is a response from one of the Hillraisers who attached a friend of mine for disagreeing with them. So it seems they are ready to fight for their candidate.

Are you going to be ready to fight for Obama?

I am!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 07/17/2008
- NABNYC I'm a Fan of NABNYC 99 fans permalink

Correction: It wasn't Cristi who sent me that e-mail. She sent me the first e-mail, and ccd a bunch of people and groups I'd never heard of. Then one of the people on her cc sent me that e-mail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 07/17/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Thank you kindly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 07/17/2008

I am a PUMA and I will never vote for Obama . His camp are the worse bad mouth peope and supporters of his are like Thugs. They threat ,they swear they act like we are trash. Well let me tell you. We are Lawyers,Do­ctors,Teac­hers Nurses,Ste­elworkers,­Waiters and Waitresses­.We are Men and Women.We are the angry BITTER,GUN TOTONG,BIBLE THUMPINGmiddleclass core of this country.We do not have 1 organization and group.We have over 250 and are growing by the hour 24/7.We are in the Multi-Millions. We do not believe in the DNCs Selection not Election. The DNC broke the rules over and over. They decided from day one that they would pick the weak one so they could use him like a pippet.Sen­ator Clinton was and is the Strong one against Mccain.Bel­ieve me before we would let them get away with this travisty we will cross over and vote Mccain. Then it will serve the Democratic Party right. sandipuma

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/17/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 32 fans permalink
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Oh and I beieve that you are really a hiillary supporter and not a troll.....­yeah right

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 07/18/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 32 fans permalink
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bad kitty, go sleep outside

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 07/18/2008
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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you sound more like an angry bitter gun toting, bible thumping republican. You should just vote for McCain now. 250 members out of Hillary's supposed 18 million. Well, old girl keep the faith and anger alive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 07/21/2008
- DXP I'm a Fan of DXP 3 fans permalink

I think they raised 10 million in the last month. Her dept is nearly paid off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 07/17/2008
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 77 fans permalink
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article said 2.7 million has been raised. Hillary came out of pockket for another $1 million for more June bills. More bills may be coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 AM on 07/21/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

Sounds like they're anxiety stricken!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 07/17/2008
- flydoghead I'm a Fan of flydoghead 32 fans permalink
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rush's little army men

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 07/18/2008

There appears to be a group of wealthy backers of H. that were probably made promises of positions or other perks in a C. presidency. Looking back, they made sure their friends were well taken care of in the 1990's administration.

In my opinion, these people are more concerned about getting their promised perks than getting a Dem elected as we already have someone that can win, especially if we all get behind him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 07/17/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

I think you are right. They are trying to make BO fulfill HRC's promises.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 07/17/2008

I am not wealthy, in fact I am poor. I was on welfare which enabled me to go to college and now I work in healthcare. Nothing was promised to me. Why am I here defending democracy then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 07/18/2008
- zanngra I'm a Fan of zanngra 4 fans permalink

Lieberman and others like her believe they should be the ones to select the nominee. They are having a hard time coming to grips with the fact that even though they are big donors, their power only took them so far. Guess what your vote doesn't count any more than the regular Joe who can't afford to make huge donations or doesn't have the time to sit on their computer all day and bombard super delegates with false information. Their excuses for not accepting the primary results are: He doesn't have the experience. Editor of The Harvard Law Review, Community Organizer, Consitutional Law Professor, and more years in elected office than Hillary. They say he's not electable. If he's not electable and he beat Hillary in the primary, how does that make her more electable. These are the bogus excuses they use to cover their real motivations, which aren't very attractive. It's not just racial, it's that they believe they are superior to the average voter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/17/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

Can't buy you love or an election!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/17/2008
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exactly

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 07/21/2008

Hold on to your P.anties ladies(/), there are people loose that are scary to U.s M.enopausa­l lAdies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 07/17/2008
- presto I'm a Fan of presto 18 fans permalink

These punctuation and spelling spasms are getting out of control. Does the writer fear censorship that much? Is Huffington Post now somehow anti-panties? Is menopause some dreaded Republican talking point? It would be one thing if this stuff de-coded into a subversive manifesto or something. But it doesn't. It's just as dumb before the cover-up as after.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 07/17/2008
- cece I'm a Fan of cece 2 fans permalink

Hillary Clinton's name should be put in nomination at the convention and the delegates should
have a chance to vote for her.

Isn't that what the Obama supporters have been telling us all along? That the people vote, the
delegates are awarded, and those delegates should have a say?

And the Obama supporters have been telling us that the Superdelegates should not be determining
the nominee, against the will of the voters.

So that means Sen. Kennedy and Sen. Kerry and Gov. Deval Patrick should
be casting a vote for Hillary Clinton since she won Massachusetts. and, yes, there are others
who are casting a superdelegate vote against the wishes of voters who cast votes
for Hillary Clinton.

these are some of the things that Ricki writes about. why are Obama people so afraid of the things
they themselves preach? why are you afraid of democracy? why do you support the
superdelegate victory for Obama now but you preached against the superdelegates if
they supported Hillary? the Democratic nominee must win with superdelegates, yes
that means your guy Obama cannot win unless he has superdelegate support.

Ricki is not the enemy. your hypocrisy is the enemy and will not help heal the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 07/17/2008

Obama was against the superdelegates DECIDING the nominee if the candidate did not have more pledged delegates. Obama did have the pledged delegates, more than Hillary...­the superdelegates gave their vote to Obama so he comes out ahead. its not difficult - just a fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 07/19/2008
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

Obama cannot win on the number of delegates, PLEDGED delegates, alone. He needs the superdelegates, just as Hillary Clinton needs pledged delegates. The difference is about 175 so don't get huffy about superdelegates. That is why PUMAs and other Clinton Democrats are still supporting her. The campaign is suspended. Clinton, with Obama's support and his supporters will clobber McCain; it is not vice versa.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 07/19/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 143 fans permalink
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Hillary's camp has distanced themselves from all Lieberman types (delusional addicts) - Take note :
Hillary does not support YOU all ....she supports Obama - you just look like a bunch of fools ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 07/17/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Even worse, they SOUND like a bunch of fools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 07/17/2008

"Hillary does not support YOU all ....she supports Obama"

We. Don't. Care.

So save your breath, and your bandwidth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 07/17/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

WE support and want as is best for this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 07/17/2008

any relation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 07/17/2008

Obama and Lieberman's don't go along.

I hope all the PUMA's vote for McCain. McCain did VOTE TO IMPEACH BILL CLINTON. But you go ahead and vote for the REAL Bush 3, McCain. It's sad when you let your love of one candidate cloud your judgement so much you consider voting against EVERYTHING your candidate stood for. Obama and Clinton shared 90% of their stances, McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time.

And Im pretty offended by the Colorado speech comparison to Nazi Germany. That actually disgusts me. A great man comes along who inspires a generation who is preaching peace, responsibility and prosperity through education and taking care of the sick, and you compare that to Hitler? Because he's POPULAR? Disgusting. They should be ashamed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:06 PM on 07/17/2008
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FYI - Obama is going to win the 2008 Presidential Election because the people are going to elect him by a landslide.­..period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 07/17/2008
- PoliJunkie I'm a Fan of PoliJunkie 17 fans permalink

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 07/17/2008
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Oh, but the people's votes are no longer counted. The last two elections showed the progress the Party has made in fixing the results. Smooth and easy and right in your face. Now they can pack the votes into the machines by remote control! Looking at the way the Democrats(what a misnomer) are fighting one another and splitting their votes, even jumping party lines...su­ch as they are... it seems to me it will be really easy to have a "close call", a real "horse race", but in the end the Electoral College will reveal McBush squeaking by to win the election. And then we really will be screwed, blued and tattooed. But for that matter Bush has been ceded pretty much unlimited and unchecked powers to do anything he thinks is good for national security and he could just decide an election is just too dangerous this year. Maybe in a couple of years we can try again. And he still would not face impeachment, much less jail time. With all the top Dems accessories in many of the Administration's war crimes the "winner" of the "election" is a moot point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 07/17/2008

Ricki, Keep fighting for ballots to be cast at the convention in Denver. Democracy should never be thrown under the bus in the name of unity!

Neither candidate has the number of pledged delegates to win so it's up to the superdelegates to choose the most electable candidate. I just wish they could cast a secret ballot to avoid the intimidation that many of us saw at the caucuses!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 07/17/2008
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Go, RIcki! The idea that we should all just suck it up , despite all indications that Obama is not the stronger candidate, and did not garner more votes, is mind-boggling. Does the DNC think that being part of one party or the other is like being a hometown sports fan - that there is blind loyalty season-after-seaon? I am disgusted to be assocated with the Democratic party right now due to the poor handling of the process, and the candidate that was produced through the corrupted process.

Obama is sinking, and the SDs need to take a clear look. Many of us Democrats put country before party, and consider choosing the strongest leader as our imperative. In that order, it is Clinton before McCain, and then Obama... never.

www.hillarysupportersformccain.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 07/17/2008
- Triciann I'm a Fan of Triciann 3 fans permalink

Why? Logically why never Obama? You seem to be extremely illogical. Explain!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 07/17/2008

Obama is a deceitful, unqualified product of the basely corrupt Chicago voter fraud machine, and we do not want corruption taking over control of our Democratic party, that is why I will never support him. He will lose big time in November, unless his voter fraud machine succeeds in overturning the true vote, as it did in the primary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 07/18/2008

Don't be fooled. These " Hillary Supporters for McCain" are lifelong Republicans exploiting some disaffected supporters of Senator Clinton. The guys who run this cabal are right-wing Republicans who have an extreme ideology. Many of the members are Limbaigh's dittoheads who initially supported Hillary in order to be part of Rush's " operation Chaos". None of these people believe in upholding Abortion Rights, Gay Rights, Environmental Protection, separation of Church and State etc.

Again, don't be fooled - Hillary Supporters for McCain are in reality Bush supporters for McCain.

The very fact that none of them respect Senator Clinton instructions for them to get behind her fellow Democrat suggests that the couldn't care less about Hillary or the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 07/17/2008

Great, just what we need! A knock down drag out fight on the convention floor in August would make all the rightwingers would drool and applaude; what a thrill it would be for them, once again, to see the
Dems disembowling themselves; And, in the end our candidate would crawl to the loser's circle; and four more years of the same with all the horror that conjures.. DUMBASSES!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 07/17/2008
- Wood I'm a Fan of Wood permalink

She's a wacko!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 07/17/2008

Senator Barack Obama is the nominee - and the Superdelegates will not change their minds.
Lets go one step further - even if the superdelegates did change their minds, does anyone think for a moment that Hillary could win this election? No, she would never win the election. Period.
John McCain is trying his best to woo the women voters - but - if elected he will set womens right back 50 years.
Vote for whomever you want - who cares.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 07/17/2008
- Wood I'm a Fan of Wood permalink

well said, my friend.. well said....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 07/17/2008
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