Clinton Distances Herself From Anti-Obama Hillraiser

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First Posted: 07-16-08 03:19 PM   |   Updated: 07-24-08 05:12 AM

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Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working against Obama's candidacy. Ricki Lieberman is another matter.

Also a former Clinton "Hillraiser" (meaning she raised more than $100,000 for the campaign), Lieberman is keeping her own private hope alive with a daily email blast to supporters, entitled "Electability Watch," which features a cascade of negative articles and other items about Obama as a means to argue that superdelegates should change their minds in Denver and crown Clinton the nominee instead. A tipster who described them as "disgusting" sent a batch of recent "Electability Watch" emails to the Huffington Post. Their authenticity was confirmed in a phone conversation with Ms. Lieberman, who said her only desire is to "see a Democratic president in the White House" next year.

Any Democrat, perhaps, except Barack Obama -- or "BO aka Bush 3," as Lieberman repeatedly refers to him. The emails sometimes go out of their way to parrot some of the most hardcore attacks on Obama, including comments comparing Obama's planned nomination speech to Nazi-era rallies in Germany. In one email, she quotes messages from apparent Holocaust survivors:

I have heard from many Survivors and their children about the symbolism and implications of use of rules to undermine our core democratic values. Ellen Mendel wrote that "I was born under Hitler in Germany, and reading about the plans for the Obama throng in the stadium in Denver and the implications which have been spelled out, gives me the chills...the DNC will deliver the country to Obama on a platter. I wonder when it will hit them what pawns they have been in this Faustian tragedy.


Another, "As someone who escaped from France during WW ll, I hope that I'm not being over dramatic when I'm more than uneasy with stuff like Obama's possible Denver stadium theatrics and the calibrated negotiations going on about the convention."

Other emails from Lieberman cite Obama's "alliances with a cast of characters include Louis Farrahkan," and urge people to contact the German embassy to protest "Obama's grandiose, inappropriate hope" to speak at the Brandenburg Gate.

In an interview, Lieberman said it is incumbent upon the party's superdelegates to take another cold, hard look at which candidate will be more electable in the fall. Given that neither Obama nor Clinton managed to win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination, a switch from Obama to Clinton is a technical possibility that nevertheless seems highly improbable.

A spokesperson for Sen. Clinton implicitly distanced the candidate from Lieberman's effort, telling the Huffington Post: "Senator Clinton fully supports Senator Obama. She continues to urge all of her supporters to get behind him. ... She continues to do everything she can to rally folks behind him. We don't support any effort that doesn't."

Still, Lieberman presses on each and every day with her emails, signing off each one with an exhortation for her audience to "GO GO GO!!!" in their efforts to contact and persuade superdelegates. While Lieberman would not reveal the number of people on her list, she bragged in one email that her organization is "beginning to reach SDs [superdelegates] thousands of times a week."

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Lieberman's emails can also be unintentionally funny. In a recent edition, she advanced a theory that the reason Obama's fundraising operation has started to show some signs of wear is because all those small donors during the primary were, in truth, closet McCain supporters who, instead of donating to his foundering campaign, were trying to destroy the most formidable Democratic candidate (that being Clinton). "And now they do not have to contribute anymore," Lieberman wrote. "Some may have even gone back to funding McCain whose fundraising has gotten better and better. SIGH... Any takers for this theory???"

In her effort to be comprehensive, Lieberman once included two mutually exclusive views on one hot story, apparently because both positions reflected poorly on Obama. During the recent Jesse Jackson controversy -- in which the civil rights leader was caught expressing his desire to "cut [Obama's] nuts off" in a hot-mic moment before a television appearance -- Lieberman's email suggested in back to back items that the entire incident was engineered by Jackson and Obama as a cynical bit of propaganda and that the incident was a true reflection of a growing displeasure among key black leaders with his candidacy.

Asked whether her relentless tearing down of Obama could potentially damage her oft-stated goal of seeing a Democratic president, Lieberman refused to concede the point. Ultimately, she described Obama as "unfit to be president."

So which is it? Does Lieberman want to see a Democratic president no matter what, or does she think it's important to advance the idea of Obama as unfit to lead?

"Well, it's both," she said. "Basically, my focus is on having her become the nominee."

What does Lieberman make of Clinton's campaigning on behalf of Obama?

"Well, look. A lot of people can say a lot of things and they do."

Does she share with some other Hillraisers a desire to see Clinton become Obama's running mate?

"I don't even think about it," adding that it's unseemly to speculate on such things before a nominee is officially crowned. As for the former Clinton supporters who are now backing Obama, Lieberman said "people are making different decisions, and I honor all of them."

But she certainly doesn't seem to honor Obama in her emails. Asked how she can justify being so dismissive of a fellow Democrat, she explained that her rhetorical fire stems from her certainty that Clinton would be 20 points ahead of McCain right now if she were the presumptive nominee, saying: "He's just not sealing the deal with the voters."

Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working agai...
Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working agai...
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- MPeter I'm a Fan of MPeter 25 fans permalink

She should be thrown out the Party. She is one miserable trollope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 07/16/2008
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Anthony Trollope was a 19th Century British writer.

The woman in the story would be a trollop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/16/2008
- TheGuide I'm a Fan of TheGuide 6 fans permalink

Ouch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 07/16/2008
- Sloane7 I'm a Fan of Sloane7 18 fans permalink

I don't think Hillary is specifically behind this but I think it pleases her to no end and she doesn't discourage it. I do not believe she wants Obama to win and I do absolutely believe she wants to run again in 2012. We will see this all the way to November and beyond. Call these people anything you like but they will go down in history as the Anti-Democratic Party.

This is no different than McCain saying he does not want the 527. Tepid at best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 07/16/2008
- coba I'm a Fan of coba permalink

this evil leibermann girl seems like she has a miserable life sensico.wordpress.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 07/16/2008

Rush LimBaboon is an Idiot if he thinks we in the Democratic party are as prone to mind control as his conservative followers ... The Democratic Party is a family and even though we may bicker for a while, True Democrats always come together and Prevail. This year we shall Prevail. Do not expect Rush to be successful in any more endeavors for the next 16 years because that is how long the democrats are successfully going to change the way the government works ..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 07/16/2008

Ummmmm .... Hate to say this but Dems have a history of coming together to form circular firing squads and, as nigth follow day, not prevailing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 07/16/2008
- PoliJunkie I'm a Fan of PoliJunkie 17 fans permalink

What a crock!!!! I believe somewhere, somehow HRC is behind this woman. Give me a BREAK!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 07/16/2008
- mypov123 I'm a Fan of mypov123 24 fans permalink
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Hate to say, but I wouldn't be surprised....of course she's going to publicly distance herself from such an effort...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 07/16/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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yesterday it was asking her donors if she could keep her GE donations for 2012, now this... what are we suppose to think??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 07/16/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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No More DNC $$ until after the convention!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 07/16/2008
- PJay1 I'm a Fan of PJay1 56 fans permalink
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That's the first thing I thought of too.

It's easy for H illary to *say* she supports Obama, but these emails sound just like the talking points and dirty campaigning they were doing in the primaries.

Remember the word "electability" that Hillary and surrogates kept repeating.
Plus, they didn't try to hide the fact that they were working the super delegates on just that point, using Farakan and Wright as examples.

Remember that gibson/stephanopolis joke of a *debate*?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 07/16/2008

I don't think she's behind this woman or encouraging her, but she could do more than she is doing to discourage her and others like her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/16/2008

Keep believing that........ its all a conspriacy...LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 07/16/2008
- lpeggy I'm a Fan of lpeggy 4 fans permalink

unbelievable...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 07/16/2008
- Jonni Rae I'm a Fan of Jonni Rae 22 fans permalink

"implictly" is not the same as "explicitly",.now is it? why doesn't she just tell her to stop???? Or tell PUMA to stop their insanity? Watch out for the knife in the back ( or was that The New Yorker?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 07/16/2008
- macbabe I'm a Fan of macbabe 107 fans permalink
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that's what I don't understand either, why doesn't she get firm with them and tell them to back-off if she's serious... that's why I have my doubts about her too and not donating anymore until after the convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 07/16/2008
- Egalitare I'm a Fan of Egalitare 6 fans permalink
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Having reached out and dialogued with a few HRC supporters in my neck of the woods, I get the sense that HRC is consistently telling these "ardent supporters" to get on the train. These people are marching to the beat of their own drum, and they are enjoying the podium their opinions provides. The closer we get to Denver, the more of them get peeled off by not getting invitations to this fancy reception or that "A-list" garden party.

It would be ironic if these people "disarmed" if and when Bill Clinton told them to do so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 07/16/2008

The right of free speech... oh yes, that was taken away when your candidate voted for FISA... The fourth amendment to the constitution just thrown out the window... wonder if he wins the election and he pushes the button ... say... "OH MY I didnt mean to do that"... then tooooooooo late for all of us...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 07/16/2008
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SICK..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 07/16/2008
- gevan I'm a Fan of gevan 19 fans permalink

Rush Limbo's Operation Chaos lives!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 07/16/2008
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