Clinton Distances Herself From Anti-Obama Hillraiser

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First Posted: 07-16-08 03:19 PM   |   Updated: 07-24-08 05:12 AM

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Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working against Obama's candidacy. Ricki Lieberman is another matter.

Also a former Clinton "Hillraiser" (meaning she raised more than $100,000 for the campaign), Lieberman is keeping her own private hope alive with a daily email blast to supporters, entitled "Electability Watch," which features a cascade of negative articles and other items about Obama as a means to argue that superdelegates should change their minds in Denver and crown Clinton the nominee instead. A tipster who described them as "disgusting" sent a batch of recent "Electability Watch" emails to the Huffington Post. Their authenticity was confirmed in a phone conversation with Ms. Lieberman, who said her only desire is to "see a Democratic president in the White House" next year.

Any Democrat, perhaps, except Barack Obama -- or "BO aka Bush 3," as Lieberman repeatedly refers to him. The emails sometimes go out of their way to parrot some of the most hardcore attacks on Obama, including comments comparing Obama's planned nomination speech to Nazi-era rallies in Germany. In one email, she quotes messages from apparent Holocaust survivors:

I have heard from many Survivors and their children about the symbolism and implications of use of rules to undermine our core democratic values. Ellen Mendel wrote that "I was born under Hitler in Germany, and reading about the plans for the Obama throng in the stadium in Denver and the implications which have been spelled out, gives me the chills...the DNC will deliver the country to Obama on a platter. I wonder when it will hit them what pawns they have been in this Faustian tragedy.


Another, "As someone who escaped from France during WW ll, I hope that I'm not being over dramatic when I'm more than uneasy with stuff like Obama's possible Denver stadium theatrics and the calibrated negotiations going on about the convention."

Other emails from Lieberman cite Obama's "alliances with a cast of characters include Louis Farrahkan," and urge people to contact the German embassy to protest "Obama's grandiose, inappropriate hope" to speak at the Brandenburg Gate.

In an interview, Lieberman said it is incumbent upon the party's superdelegates to take another cold, hard look at which candidate will be more electable in the fall. Given that neither Obama nor Clinton managed to win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination, a switch from Obama to Clinton is a technical possibility that nevertheless seems highly improbable.

A spokesperson for Sen. Clinton implicitly distanced the candidate from Lieberman's effort, telling the Huffington Post: "Senator Clinton fully supports Senator Obama. She continues to urge all of her supporters to get behind him. ... She continues to do everything she can to rally folks behind him. We don't support any effort that doesn't."

Still, Lieberman presses on each and every day with her emails, signing off each one with an exhortation for her audience to "GO GO GO!!!" in their efforts to contact and persuade superdelegates. While Lieberman would not reveal the number of people on her list, she bragged in one email that her organization is "beginning to reach SDs [superdelegates] thousands of times a week."

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Lieberman's emails can also be unintentionally funny. In a recent edition, she advanced a theory that the reason Obama's fundraising operation has started to show some signs of wear is because all those small donors during the primary were, in truth, closet McCain supporters who, instead of donating to his foundering campaign, were trying to destroy the most formidable Democratic candidate (that being Clinton). "And now they do not have to contribute anymore," Lieberman wrote. "Some may have even gone back to funding McCain whose fundraising has gotten better and better. SIGH... Any takers for this theory???"

In her effort to be comprehensive, Lieberman once included two mutually exclusive views on one hot story, apparently because both positions reflected poorly on Obama. During the recent Jesse Jackson controversy -- in which the civil rights leader was caught expressing his desire to "cut [Obama's] nuts off" in a hot-mic moment before a television appearance -- Lieberman's email suggested in back to back items that the entire incident was engineered by Jackson and Obama as a cynical bit of propaganda and that the incident was a true reflection of a growing displeasure among key black leaders with his candidacy.

Asked whether her relentless tearing down of Obama could potentially damage her oft-stated goal of seeing a Democratic president, Lieberman refused to concede the point. Ultimately, she described Obama as "unfit to be president."

So which is it? Does Lieberman want to see a Democratic president no matter what, or does she think it's important to advance the idea of Obama as unfit to lead?

"Well, it's both," she said. "Basically, my focus is on having her become the nominee."

What does Lieberman make of Clinton's campaigning on behalf of Obama?

"Well, look. A lot of people can say a lot of things and they do."

Does she share with some other Hillraisers a desire to see Clinton become Obama's running mate?

"I don't even think about it," adding that it's unseemly to speculate on such things before a nominee is officially crowned. As for the former Clinton supporters who are now backing Obama, Lieberman said "people are making different decisions, and I honor all of them."

But she certainly doesn't seem to honor Obama in her emails. Asked how she can justify being so dismissive of a fellow Democrat, she explained that her rhetorical fire stems from her certainty that Clinton would be 20 points ahead of McCain right now if she were the presumptive nominee, saying: "He's just not sealing the deal with the voters."

Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working agai...
Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working agai...
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- westreal I'm a Fan of westreal 17 fans permalink

I think this Lieberman and the one named Joe should be shipped back to Israel where they can play politics all they want. But we won't let them dictate the outcome of this election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 07/17/2008

Obama raised 52 millions in June. So if Ms Lieberman joins Obama's effort, the Dem will have even more.
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/07/obama_raised_52_million_in_jun.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 07/17/2008

This woman is 61 years old and froma generation where racism was rampant.

http://www.densho.org/causes/default.asp?path=1racism/1racisminthe1940s.asp

It's the only reason (other than a possible benefit of having your "friend" as President.­...look at Georgie boy) is that she must be racist. The policies of Obama and Clinton are so close that racism must play the largest part in her quest for Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 07/17/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

HRC has certainly been "working her heart out" for the Democratic nominee.

Other than fundraisers to retire her debt, what has she done?

So much for her "solemn vow".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 07/17/2008

You have to expect that from some of Hillary's big supporters. But in June Obama raised 52 millions from small donators.
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/07/obama_raised_52_million_in_jun.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 07/17/2008

I like your speculation on how Senator Obama has raised so much money from small donors. Senator Obama has not released the breakdown of those donors. That is propoganda on his website.
Donors making contributions under $500 have only contributed $11,791.93 out of $286,382,376 through the May numbers he reported to the 6 watchdog groups. I would suggest you look at independent sources.


http://opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 07/17/2008

It's about time you let someone speak the truth! Or isn't that what you want to hear since you all jumped on the change wagon? Of course Hillary has to say she backs BO- but we do not. Of course if the media and blogs likes yours keep hiding the truth some will follow like sheep but if you let the truth out -- see how fast they will bolt from the liar BO. He is for CHANGE alright changing day to day!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 07/17/2008
- neem I'm a Fan of neem 4 fans permalink

While Obama helps to pay off Clinton's 2008 debts, Clinton asks her supporters to earmark donations not to 2008, but to her 2012 fund. Classy as always.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 AM on 07/17/2008

The emailing the German Embassy thing is hilarious. It's neither the German Embassy nor the German Federal government's decision - the Berlin offices to contact do not care what non-residents have to say which is why they don't have an English version of their homepage. Democrats Abroad Berlin went 80% for Obama in the Global Primary, so they don't care either. I can just see the secrataries at the Embassy groaning about more spam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 07/17/2008

Your headline was misleading. Her distancing was hardly explicit

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 AM on 07/17/2008
- debwarot I'm a Fan of debwarot 10 fans permalink

Exactly! Why isn't she stating publicly, loud and clear, that they do not represent her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 07/17/2008

Old guard.

Toss em over when we win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 07/17/2008
- Actionmac I'm a Fan of Actionmac 10 fans permalink
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Please put up and shut up... PAY HER BILLS AND GO AWAY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 07/17/2008
- likeicare I'm a Fan of likeicare 8 fans permalink

It figues that someone who is mentally unstable (as this woman obviously is) would be attracted to a candidate (Hillary) who is equally as unstable.

She's got the money for therapy -- her friends should encourage her to seek it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 07/17/2008

Ricki is standing up for Democracy and if that makes her a nut case then add my name to the list. We are exercising our right to freedom of speech, or is that something else that will change with Obama and his supporters.

PUMA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 07/17/2008

"Nutcases for Democracy.­" Has a nice ring to it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/17/2008
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 197 fans permalink
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The phrase "more dollars than sense" comes to mind. Actually several more phrases come to mind, but they would never make it past the moderators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 07/17/2008

The problem is that Hillary did NOT explicitly distance herself. Explicit would have been if she had mentioned Rickie Lieberman by name and asked her to stop. She did not quite go that far.
In fact, further down in your article, you have her quoted as saying "Well, a lot of people will say things..." as if she has no influence over this at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 07/17/2008
- Chad53916 I'm a Fan of Chad53916 10 fans permalink

As unfortunate as it is to even register hits on their site (clintondems), you have to see this for its entertainment value. I'm sure I'm earning some bad Karma, but these guys are a hoot! I get about the same chuckle out of them as I do watching a video of a protester try to burn Old Glory and succeeding in starting himself on fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 07/17/2008
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go to HilliaryIs­44.Org

To see the cauldron Stirred and Shaken with an Eye-Of-Newt

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 07/17/2008
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