Clinton Distances Herself From Anti-Obama Hillraiser

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First Posted: 07-16-08 03:19 PM   |   Updated: 07-24-08 05:12 AM

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Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working against Obama's candidacy. Ricki Lieberman is another matter.

Also a former Clinton "Hillraiser" (meaning she raised more than $100,000 for the campaign), Lieberman is keeping her own private hope alive with a daily email blast to supporters, entitled "Electability Watch," which features a cascade of negative articles and other items about Obama as a means to argue that superdelegates should change their minds in Denver and crown Clinton the nominee instead. A tipster who described them as "disgusting" sent a batch of recent "Electability Watch" emails to the Huffington Post. Their authenticity was confirmed in a phone conversation with Ms. Lieberman, who said her only desire is to "see a Democratic president in the White House" next year.

Any Democrat, perhaps, except Barack Obama -- or "BO aka Bush 3," as Lieberman repeatedly refers to him. The emails sometimes go out of their way to parrot some of the most hardcore attacks on Obama, including comments comparing Obama's planned nomination speech to Nazi-era rallies in Germany. In one email, she quotes messages from apparent Holocaust survivors:

I have heard from many Survivors and their children about the symbolism and implications of use of rules to undermine our core democratic values. Ellen Mendel wrote that "I was born under Hitler in Germany, and reading about the plans for the Obama throng in the stadium in Denver and the implications which have been spelled out, gives me the chills...the DNC will deliver the country to Obama on a platter. I wonder when it will hit them what pawns they have been in this Faustian tragedy.


Another, "As someone who escaped from France during WW ll, I hope that I'm not being over dramatic when I'm more than uneasy with stuff like Obama's possible Denver stadium theatrics and the calibrated negotiations going on about the convention."

Other emails from Lieberman cite Obama's "alliances with a cast of characters include Louis Farrahkan," and urge people to contact the German embassy to protest "Obama's grandiose, inappropriate hope" to speak at the Brandenburg Gate.

In an interview, Lieberman said it is incumbent upon the party's superdelegates to take another cold, hard look at which candidate will be more electable in the fall. Given that neither Obama nor Clinton managed to win enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination, a switch from Obama to Clinton is a technical possibility that nevertheless seems highly improbable.

A spokesperson for Sen. Clinton implicitly distanced the candidate from Lieberman's effort, telling the Huffington Post: "Senator Clinton fully supports Senator Obama. She continues to urge all of her supporters to get behind him. ... She continues to do everything she can to rally folks behind him. We don't support any effort that doesn't."

Still, Lieberman presses on each and every day with her emails, signing off each one with an exhortation for her audience to "GO GO GO!!!" in their efforts to contact and persuade superdelegates. While Lieberman would not reveal the number of people on her list, she bragged in one email that her organization is "beginning to reach SDs [superdelegates] thousands of times a week."

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Lieberman's emails can also be unintentionally funny. In a recent edition, she advanced a theory that the reason Obama's fundraising operation has started to show some signs of wear is because all those small donors during the primary were, in truth, closet McCain supporters who, instead of donating to his foundering campaign, were trying to destroy the most formidable Democratic candidate (that being Clinton). "And now they do not have to contribute anymore," Lieberman wrote. "Some may have even gone back to funding McCain whose fundraising has gotten better and better. SIGH... Any takers for this theory???"

In her effort to be comprehensive, Lieberman once included two mutually exclusive views on one hot story, apparently because both positions reflected poorly on Obama. During the recent Jesse Jackson controversy -- in which the civil rights leader was caught expressing his desire to "cut [Obama's] nuts off" in a hot-mic moment before a television appearance -- Lieberman's email suggested in back to back items that the entire incident was engineered by Jackson and Obama as a cynical bit of propaganda and that the incident was a true reflection of a growing displeasure among key black leaders with his candidacy.

Asked whether her relentless tearing down of Obama could potentially damage her oft-stated goal of seeing a Democratic president, Lieberman refused to concede the point. Ultimately, she described Obama as "unfit to be president."

So which is it? Does Lieberman want to see a Democratic president no matter what, or does she think it's important to advance the idea of Obama as unfit to lead?

"Well, it's both," she said. "Basically, my focus is on having her become the nominee."

What does Lieberman make of Clinton's campaigning on behalf of Obama?

"Well, look. A lot of people can say a lot of things and they do."

Does she share with some other Hillraisers a desire to see Clinton become Obama's running mate?

"I don't even think about it," adding that it's unseemly to speculate on such things before a nominee is officially crowned. As for the former Clinton supporters who are now backing Obama, Lieberman said "people are making different decisions, and I honor all of them."

But she certainly doesn't seem to honor Obama in her emails. Asked how she can justify being so dismissive of a fellow Democrat, she explained that her rhetorical fire stems from her certainty that Clinton would be 20 points ahead of McCain right now if she were the presumptive nominee, saying: "He's just not sealing the deal with the voters."

Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working agai...
Some former top Hillary Clinton fundraisers have received attention in recent days for thus far declining to help bundle donations for Barack Obama. But none of those figures was actively working agai...
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One thing we should remember, amidst the hysterical reporting and commenting on these "movements", is that the Hillary Clinton delegates to Democratic National Convention aren't "Hillary-ites". They are *Democrats*. They no more want a rancorous and divisive convention than Obama supporters do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 07/17/2008
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Alas, this is a very sad, textbook case of a person who has let the suffering of her own people poison her mind and soul to the point that she assumes the cloak of the oppressor of others in the very same fashion. And she dishonors and trivializes the horrors that the Jews suffered at the hands of Nazi Germany by equating their experience in any way to what their lives would be like under the workings of the Obama presidential election strategy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 07/17/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 07/17/2008
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The Nazi comparisons are disgusting, and I do not believe that they were written by actual Holocaust survivors. If they had lived during the Holocaust they would know that it is not Adolf Hitler that Senator Obama is emulating, but President Kennedy, who also accepted his nomination in an unconventional manner (no pun intended.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 AM on 07/17/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

Yeah if she want to pay off that debt she needs too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 AM on 07/17/2008
- serena1313 I'm a Fan of serena1313 46 fans permalink

An individual cannot destroy another without destroying oneself. If her cause to persuade super delegates [to "anoint" HRC] was just she would be arguing the merits by building on Clinton's positives rather than demeaning Obama. What she is losing in the process, none as important as is her self-worth whereby all else falls from there.

Ricki 's argument is emotive; it lacks reasoned logic and common sense. She is not operating on principle, but self-interest. Her cause is neither noble nor honourable. Obviously this woman has some serious issues.

HRC would be better served by someone focused on why she should be nominated. However tearing Obama down to make her candidate look better reflects poorly on Ricki and renders her argument ineffective.

Ultimately Ricki's obssession will end in self-destruction -- to what degree is up to her notwithstanding.

Imagine how different the world would be if we practiced and lived by the motto: "Do no harm."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 AM on 07/17/2008
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This is disgusting: the inflammatory references to The Third Reich, and the dismissive tone and misrepresentation of Obama’s army of small donors.

Clinton needs to do four things:

(1) She needs to publicly and strongly distance herself from P.U.M.A. and disgruntled “HillRaisers”. This will go a long way to reinforcing her endorsement of Obama. This must be done...NOW.

(2) She needs to say publicly, in bold terms, that there are no “major” differences between her and Obama on most policies.

(3) She needs to help dispel the vicious rumors about Obama that this Hillraiser (and many in the P.U.M.A. crowd) are circulating on the net – the muslim lie; the Michelle said “whitey on tape” lie; the Farrakhan lie; etc.

(4) She needs to tell these angry women (basically MIDDLE-AGED WHITE WOMEN) what’s at stake if McCain gets elected – (a) ROE v. WADE is toast. McCain said so. He has every intention of naming justices that destroy reproductive rights for women; (b) McCain will likely eradicate affirmative action, which has mostly benefitted WHITE WOMEN since its inception. In fact, TITLE IX, an affirmative action initiative at Division I universities was targeted for eradication by Bush early in his first term. So for these middle-aged WHITE WOMEN to vote for McCain to “teach Obama a lesson” means they are playing around with the futures of their daughters and granddaughters. That’s irresponsible, and Clinton needs to say it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 AM on 07/17/2008

She doesn't need to address every lunatic with a computer and a website, nor the republicans that are obviously behind these folks, funding and encouraging them. Obama is doing just fine. Wait till you see Hillary's actual convention delegates move in unanimous support of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 07/17/2008
- whizkid I'm a Fan of whizkid 28 fans permalink

It's not about Obama or McCain.
It's about the clear path to victory.
Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 07/17/2008

It all becomes very clear to me now.

I see your post and comments here more than anybody else, always against Obama. It's your choice and you're welcomed to it.
The funny thing is though, Even when the articles are mentioning McCain vs Obama, you're always on McCain's side.

Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 07/17/2008
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Because he believes it should be Hillary or no one. And because Hillary and Obama have the same positions on a host of pressing issues, you have to ask: what is it with the Obama bashing? Does "whizkid" like Hillary's personality more? Does "whizkid" like her racial make-up better? There is never any real substantive analysis. Just snide remarks and ugly language.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 07/17/2008
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Because , WhizKid is actually McCain's Right Ball.

Hi little fella !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 07/17/2008

Is she related to Joe??

Cause she sure acting like that Lieberman....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 07/17/2008

Read your comments You are ugly right now--discriminating against her because she is Jewish, a Woman, and she still supports the candidate that she believes is best for the Democratic party. Why attack her for that? Because she wants to see her candidate continue on through to the end of the Democratic Nomination process? That process for the Democratic Party has traditionally been: Candidates throwing their hats in the ring, hitting the primaries and caucuses, debates--then all the way through to the convention letting the delegates decided who the BEST candidate is after hearing supporting speeches from other democrats and a roll call/ballot for the best nominee for the party. This is usually based on the testing ground from the Will of the People the feedback that has determined the delegates--the voters. Who is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party can put forward to beat the Republican or any other candidate come General Election Day. Who is best for the country. It is not wrong for Ms.Lieberman to ask that the DNC put Clinton on the Roll Call and it is clear that Hillary Clinton has not put her up to this.
18 million voters clearly spoke for Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party should listen to that No, Lieberman is not wrong when it comes to having a solid 20 point lead over McCain. This is going to be a tough election that will turn on a dime because of the Economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 AM on 07/17/2008
- arkgrfx61 I'm a Fan of arkgrfx61 4 fans permalink

I don't think BIlly was discriminating against her because she is Jewish and a woman (both of which I happen to be) I think he was referring to the fact that she seems to be throwing out bold-faced lies and exaggerations (a la Joe who just also happens to be a lier and exaggerator).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 07/17/2008
- Margij I'm a Fan of Margij 2 fans permalink

The best candidate has already been decided - like I tell my CHILDREN, someone has to win and someone has to lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 07/17/2008
- BARRISTER I'm a Fan of BARRISTER 19 fans permalink

My advice to Obama supporters : if this Obama bashing continues without a concerted effort by Democrats in Congress to stand up and fight to end it, come election vote Obama on top of the ticket and for third party candidates down the lineon the rest of the ballot. They have no gonads? Send hem home to grow some. Except Wexler and Feingold of course!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 07/17/2008
- RobinRocks I'm a Fan of RobinRocks 2 fans permalink

I don't get it... after all the Obama flip flops, his supporters still want him to lead this country? That's insane!

And why is Lieberman being singled out here? There are millions of people who feel the way she does about Obama. So what? You all want to save the democratic party? Then make sure the party operates in a democratic way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 07/17/2008

You are trying to reason with an unreasonable mass of cultish supporters. Its in vain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 07/17/2008
- BigMike75 I'm a Fan of BigMike75 11 fans permalink

This is what's left, the narcissistic fringe mirroring the actions of their candidate...at least her actions during the primaries. Hillary has stepped up, well sort of, and while the public action will be to distance herself from nutjobs like Mama Lieberman-the politically astute thing to do-what is ol' Hill saying to her closest supporters behind closed doors? That maybe Barry is still "unfit to be the president", I mean what does that mean, according to their assertion anyway? Notice it's never anything based on factual arguments, only something more slanderous to prove their preposterous arguments. "My only desire is to see a Democrat in the White House next year"..."Oh, but Obama is unfit to be the president"...that's funny. This has nothing to do with race, this is about blind obsession and a total lack of rationale. Barry isn't perfect, and we have had many great presidents that certainly were not perfect candidates, and had their share of haters and detractors. The alternative is just not an acceptable option right now, when I hear things like "I know how to win wars" I can't help but thinking that will be the basis for more senseless military action, and the further politicization of our armed forces. As of right now, it's still Barry or no one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 07/17/2008
- atila I'm a Fan of atila 56 fans permalink
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why i'm not surprised?...Senator Obama has been the most vetted presidential candidate in history...racism is the main reason,it doesn't matter how "they' try to cover it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 07/17/2008

The DNC DID Not deliver the nomination to Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton lost. And she had lost before she decided to throw the kitchen sink at him. His lead was insurmountable. Its America. Vote for anyone you choose. But don't spread lies to justify your spoiled behavior. Your candidate lost. Get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 07/17/2008

His lead was insurmountable
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His lead was and IS still DEFICIENT. He needed S U P E R D E L E G A T E S to give it to him. They could have picked her too.

And then night he "won" the nomination? REDICULOUS. SD's had just lined up throghout the day so that when he LOST the SD primary, he still picked up just enouhg to clinch it.

And we were all supposed to celebrate this historic monumental victory? PULLLLEEEEZ!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 AM on 07/17/2008
- Dustee I'm a Fan of Dustee 61 fans permalink
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LOL, Poor Hillraisers - they need to be medicated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 07/17/2008
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Sign up to receive Ricki’s daily “Electability Watch” by sending an e-mail to

gmail.coma@gmail.com

Ricki is associated with the Together4US group.

Ricki's hope is not as private as this article may lead you to believe. Her hope is shared by millions of American citizens who understand that they have more than two choices come this November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 07/17/2008
- Triciann I'm a Fan of Triciann 3 fans permalink

You make me so angry. I suppose you were born in the USA and you are simply a selfish spoiled brat. You have not learned the meaning of the word gracious. You are probably a racist. Did you cheat in school? You are the reason this country is looked down on these days by the rest of the world. You are prepared to flush your country down the toilet. You are probably pretty ignorant about the world. I care deeply about this country and choose to live here. However, unlike you I guess, I have the right to live in many other fine countries if people like you destroy America's last hope of a decent future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 07/17/2008
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