Hezbollah, Israeli Prisoner Swap Reveals Soldiers Were Killed

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STEVEN GUTKIN and ARON HELLER | July 16, 2008 05:31 PM EST | AP

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Hezbollah members hand over the bodies of two Israeli soldiers to the Red Cross to be exchanged for Lebanese prisoners held by Israel at Naqoura border point with Israel, Wednesday July 16, 2008. Lebanon's Hezbollah guerrillas handed over the bodies of two Israeli soldiers and trucks carrying the remains of some 199 Lebanese and Palestinian fighters began crossing into Lebanon on Wednesday _ setting in motion a dramatic prisoner swap between the bitter enemies. Family and friends outside the homes of the two captured Israeli soldiers burst into tears early Wednesday when TV images showed two black coffins believed to contain their remains. Though officials had suspected Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev were dead, the sight of the coffins was the first concrete sign of the young men's fate. (AP Photo/Issam Kobeisy/Pool)

JERUSALEM — Critics of Israel's lopsided prisoner exchange with Lebanese guerrillas said Wednesday that such deals only encourage more hostage-taking _ a fear underscored by Gaza militants who said the swap proves that kidnapping is the only language Israel understands.

The deal, in which a notorious Lebanese attacker, four other militants and the bodies of 199 Arab fighters were traded for two dead Israeli soldiers, closed a painful chapter from Israel's 2006 war in Lebanon.

But it also raised questions about whether Israel should reconsider its policy of bringing back every soldier from the battlefield at just about any cost.

Israel has been carrying out unequal prisoner swaps for decades, including handing over 4,600 Palestinian and Lebanese captives in 1983 in exchange for six captured Israeli soldiers. In the past it's even traded live prisoners for bodies, as it did Wednesday.

The rationale for such trades was a wartime ethic seen as essential in Israel's early days to instilling loyalty and commitment from its troops.

In today's world of asymmetric warfare _ with militant groups increasingly focused on kidnapping as a way to pressure Israel and with the fight against terrorism now a worldwide challenge _ the lopsided swaps could have graver consequences than in the past.

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"What we've done now has made kidnapping soldiers the most profitable game in town," said Israeli security expert Martin Sherman.

"There is absolutely no reason why Hezbollah should not invest huge resources now, along with Hamas, in the next kidnapping."

The issue is of immediate concern because the government is deeply involved in indirect negotiations to free its other captive soldier, Gilad Schalit, held by Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip. Unlike Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, the two soldiers whose bodies were returned Wednesday, Schalit is believed to be alive.

Following this week's Cabinet vote that cleared the way for the Hezbollah deal, Construction Minister Zeev Boim, one of only three ministers to vote against it, said he was afraid the swap would make it harder for Israel to win the release of Schalit.

"No one should be surprised if Hamas will now raise the price for freeing him," he said.

Hamas made it clear Wednesday that it intended to do just that.

"As there was an honorable exchange today, we are determined to have an honorable exchange for our own prisoners" held in Israeli jails, Gaza's Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said. "Let them answer our demands." Israel holds about 10,000 Palestinians in prison.

Haniyeh's spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri went further, saying the swap "shows that the only successful way to free the prisoners is by kidnapping soldiers."

Explaining his opposition, Boim, the construction minister, said Wednesday: "We needed, in my opinion, to take this opportunity to change the rules we were dragged into many years ago, which have led to many lopsided deals."

But the Israeli military said the deal drove home the Jewish state's deep commitment to its soldiers.

"This painful process exemplifies Israel's moral commitment to secure the return of all of their soldiers sent out on operational missions," said a statement Wednesday from the Israeli Defense Forces. "It demonstrates a compelling moral strength which stems from Judaism, Israeli societal values and from the spirit of the IDF."

Wednesday's exchange involved freeing a Lebanese militant convicted of what many consider to be among the most gruesome crimes inflicted on Israelis in their history.

Samir Kantar was sentenced to three life terms for killing an Israeli man in front of his 4-year-old daughter, then killing the little girl by smashing her skull with his rifle butt.

During the grisly attack, the girl's 2-year-old sister was accidentally smothered by her mother during a desperate attempt to silence the child's cries as the two hid in a crawl space.

For Israelis, the 1979 attack was a nightmare scenario feared by many in a nation living in a constant state of war: a terrorist breaking into their home in the middle of the night and kidnapping and killing a family.

Because of the visceral reaction, successive governments held off on including Kantar in any previous swap. Kantar was 16 years old at the time of the attack and he has consistently denied killing the girl, saying she died in crossfire.

That Israel paid such a high price for dead bodies could provide an incentive for militants to kill future hostages, said Yuval Steinitz, a lawmaker from the opposition Likud Party.

"This is a very dangerous precedent," he said. "We are telling them that they don't have to do their utmost to keep captive soldiers alive, to save them if captured."

Nor was the high price of the swap lost on ordinary Palestinians.

"Nobody would have expected that Israel would give up the likes of Samir Kantar. Hezbollah has shown that they are mighty people, and Israel is afraid of them and had to meet their demands," said Samar Mohammed, a 23-year-old architect in the West Bank city of Ramallah.

Despite the criticism in Israel, the swap could provide a badly needed boost for Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, whose grip on power is gravely threatened by a burgeoning corruption probe.

Olmert launched a monthlong war against Hezbollah in June 2006 in response to the servicemen's capture. His handling of the war was widely criticized, and he has been under considerable pressure to resolve the issue of the soldiers' fate.

Wednesday's swap closed a painful chapter from the war, and Israelis reacted to confirmation of the young men's death with a mixture of anguish and anger.

One of the soldiers' aunts sank to the ground in despair, and other mourners demanded revenge, chanting "Nasrallah, you will pay" _ referring to Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah.

Olmert recently announced the soldiers were believed dead, but there was no proof until their remains were delivered to Israel in two black coffins Wednesday. During the past two years, securing Regev's and Goldwasser's release had become a national crusade involving bumper stickers, billboards, radio and TV spots and public prayers.

Family and friends outside the homes of the fallen soldiers burst into tears at the first television images of the black coffins.

"It was horrible to see it. I didn't want to, I asked them to turn off the TV," said Regev's father, Zvi, choking back tears. "We were always hoping that Udi (Ehud) and Eldad were alive and that they would come home and we would hug them."

Gerald Steinberg, chairman of the political science department at Bar Ilan University outside Tel Aviv, disagreed with the notion that Hezbollah came out ahead in both the war and the prisoner swap.

"Hezbollah paid a high price," he said. "After the soldiers were kidnapped, Israel went to war and inflicted a very high cost on Hezbollah. It would be irrational for Hezbollah to return to a similar tactic."

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AP correspondent Aron Heller reported from the Israel-Lebanon border. AP writers Mark Lavie, Steve Weizman and Laurie Copans in Jerusalem, Ian Deitch in northern Israel and Dalia Nammari in Ramallah also contributed to this report.

 
 

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- keepemhonest See Profile I'm a Fan of keepemhonest permalink

Not trying to sound morbid, but does anyone know if the soldiers were recently murdered?

God Bless their souls and their families. This whole story breaks my heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 07/18/2008
- rroy See Profile I'm a Fan of rroy permalink

It's amazing how people are so capable of deluding themselves!The "Pro Isreal"Bleeding hearts "persist in decrying the"killing of inocent women and children by Palestinians and other factions who strongly object to Israeli ocupation and userpation of their homes and lands,yet turn a blind eye to the fact that Israel has brought about the brutal deaths and maiming of many times more innocent victims of their excesses!As if that weren't enough,all this is done with the aid abetting and arming by th U.S.!
Incidently,and as a side issue,I was in the U.S.Navy Amphibious Forces landing the Fourth Marine assault waves on Iwo Jima,and participated in the invasion of Okinowa.It is a damn safe bet that I would have participated in the invasion of Japan if Harry Truman didn't drop rhe Atomic Bombs.Thanks to him,here I an 65 years later,typing on the internet!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 07/17/2008
- ReasonIsMyReligion See Profile I'm a Fan of ReasonIsMyReligion permalink

... so I'm sure you'll understand why Israel would prefer Iran NOT get nukes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 07/17/2008
- LeoMarvin See Profile I'm a Fan of LeoMarvin permalink

"It is a damn safe bet that I would have participated in the invasion of Japan if Harry Truman didn't drop rhe Atomic Bombs.Thanks to him,here I an 65 years later,typing on the internet!"

Glad to have you with us. You are aware, I hope, that most of the people who share your antipathy for Israel consider the dropping of those atomic bombs to be war crimes. If they had their way, you'd have had that invasion, and you and I might not be having this conversation. Just something for you to think about, and maybe to consider whether there isn't another side to that Palestinian question. A side you may not have fully explored.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 07/17/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

Palestinians in Lebanon suffer terrible depravations and victims of apartheid and human rights violation.
Hezbollah doesn't care. It simply uses Palestinians...
Syria, which rules Lebanon with a iron fit does NOTHING about Palestinian conditions!
WHy? They don't want to reward Isreal by making refugees lives comfortable. Thats is the way of the Middle East.

BY LEBANESE LAW:
1.Palests are prohibited employment over 70 professions.
2.Prohibited of building OR buying houses ANYWHERE in Lebanon.
3.Denied right to marry Lebanese citizen
4. Can't use medical facilities for Lebanese.
5. Can't use colleges and universities of Lebanon.

These are people who were born and raised in Lebanon!

But Hezbollah is SO concerned about suffering of Palestinians... JUST NOT INSIDE THEIR COUNTRY!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 07/17/2008
- rollingdivision See Profile I'm a Fan of rollingdivision permalink

Hezbollah murders POWs. No Geneva convention rights, no habeas, just torture and murder. Where are all the people who pretend to care about international law?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 07/17/2008
- ReasonIsMyReligion See Profile I'm a Fan of ReasonIsMyReligion permalink

We don't always agree, but HUZZAH on this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 07/17/2008
- MagisterLudi See Profile I'm a Fan of MagisterLudi permalink

This is how much Hezbolla and Syria cares about Palestinians.

Amnesty International found that Palestinians in Lebanon are discriminated against as compared with other non-citizens with regards to the rights to own and inherit property.

In practice, the law on the ownership of real estate in Lebanon by non-Lebanese nationals, which in effect only permits nationals of "a recognized state" to own property, mainly targets Palestinians.

Palestinians in Lebanon are also unable to rebuild or redevelop refugee camps due to government imposed restrictions.

During its visit to the camp, Amnesty International noted serious environmental and public health problems. Residents of many camps are unable to renovate the facilities due to government policies which prohibit the provision of certain materials to a number of these camps.
Palestinians in Lebanon are also discriminated against with regards to the right to work and the right to social security.

Amnesty International concluded that the discrimination levied against Palestinians in relation to the rights to own and inherit property and the right to work creates conditions where Palestinians refugees cannot enjoy an adequate standard of living and constitutes human rights violation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 07/17/2008
- bigfro See Profile I'm a Fan of bigfro permalink


"If not for your kidnapping and Israel's response, Hizbullah might have succeeded in wiping us out," Goldwasser maintained.

"I turn to the Jewish nation and ask you to hold your head up high in national pride," she added.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak eulogized Goldwasser.

"Miki and Shlomo, Karnit, Ya'ir and Gadi, today we bury an IDF fighter and your darling Udi and hold you close to our hearts," he said.

"31 years old when he died, born in Nahariya, a combat soldier in the Givati Brigade, a man of literature and music, a lover of cinema and photography, truly he was the salt of the Earth," Barak said.

"I reiterate to the IDF's fighters and commanders: If any of you fall captive, the State of Israel and the government, the defense minister and the chief of staff will do anything possible in order to bring you back," he added.

"This is the time to tell the Schalit family: We will not rest until we bring back your son, alive and well," Barak referred to Gilad Schalit, held in Gaza since late June 2006.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 07/17/2008
- bigfro See Profile I'm a Fan of bigfro permalink


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Goldwasser, Regev were killed in initial attack
Speaking before Karnit, Miki Goldwasser, Ehud's mother said, "I hope we can come to see the Second Lebanon War as a victory."

"We have discovered this nation to be a wonderful nation. We have found bereaved families with superior mental fortitude, we have found generosity. We have found the spirit of volunteering, the meaning of the word friendship. This is an amazing nation," she continued.

Karnit Goldwasser during her husband's funeral, Thursday.
Photo: Channel 10
While Karnit and the rest of the family shed tears of grief, the mother remained surprisingly resilient. "I will not cry here. I will save the crying for later," she said.

"I would like to salute the Arad family," the bereaved mother said, referring to the family of Ron Arad, an IAF navigator missing since 1986. it took great strength for them to come. And in particular, I would like to salute a great woman who has been my inspiration by standing up to all horrors with her head held high - Smadar Haran."

Eliyahu Shahar was one of the policemen killed by Lebanese murderer Samir Kuntar, whose release was part of the deal to return the bodies of Goldwasser and Eldad Regev, the second reservist killed by Hizbullah on July 12m 2006. Smadar Haran lost her husband Danny and daughter Einat to Kuntar's murderous brutality in 1979. She also accidentally smothered her other daughter to death while hiding from Kuntar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 AM on 07/17/2008
- Steeevyo See Profile I'm a Fan of Steeevyo permalink

Thx.
Human beings in action.
Bless them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 07/17/2008
- bigfro See Profile I'm a Fan of bigfro permalink

"On the twelfth of July, at nine hours and six minutes, time stopped," Karnit Goldwasser, the widow of Ehud Goldwasser said during his funeral, Thursday. "A journey began for you and me - for us, the family, and for the entire country. Now you and I move on to the next journey, the journey of my life. You will be a full partner in it, you will continue to be my inner voice, eternally young, accompanying me throughout my life. It will be lived without you, but forever you will be there.

Miki Goldwasser, Ehud Goldwasser's mother, during her son's funeral on Thursday.
Photo: Channel 10
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"My love, they say that time heals and covers wounds. Is that so? Two years have passed since that one moment when, with a wave of a knife, the artery of our life together was cut," Karnit continued. "That moment, the worst of all [moments], was turned into a horrible reality; a reality which forced all of us to sink into a dark and complicated world."

"Please forgive me, my darling husband, for not [talking about] your many virtues here, those which accompanied me every step of the way during the struggle for your return. This isn't the place to do that," she added.

"With your permission, the personal farewell I'll do in my own time," Karnit said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 AM on 07/17/2008
- paco833 See Profile I'm a Fan of paco833 permalink


I'm sure Sen. Barry Obama will be a great help in fostering understanding of the plight and struggle of HAMAS and their Palestinan bretheren.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 07/17/2008
- amazigh See Profile I'm a Fan of amazigh permalink

anybody remember this: we're at war because hizbollah crossed the border and kidnapped our 2 soldiers??
wouldn't they be alive today if that was the case??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 07/17/2008
- lboucher See Profile I'm a Fan of lboucher permalink

Obama is meeting next week with Hamas. Maybe he can get them to be nice people. Obama
says words have meaning and he will teach America how to persuade mean folks like Hamas how to be nice people to Jews.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 07/16/2008
- ReasonIsMyReligion See Profile I'm a Fan of ReasonIsMyReligion permalink

Israel talks to Hamas.
Are they softies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 07/17/2008
- KPinSEA See Profile I'm a Fan of KPinSEA permalink

I imagine that Col. Tibbets got a hearty welcome from many in his country after returning from vaporizing thousands of children in a few seconds at Hiroshima .... a people can convince themselves that anything is justified in a war.

So .... I'm a little reluctant to call into question the humanity or relative lack thereof of the Palestinians ... or the Israeli pilots who drop munitions into residential housing and accept killing 30 people to get the one they wanted. They all convince themselves of its 'necessity', just as we did, just as we still do in Iraq.

It's tragic, but it's hardly "inhuman" ... it's regrettably very, very human.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/16/2008
- teembee See Profile I'm a Fan of teembee permalink

In the overall scheme of things, dropping the bombs on Japan saved lives but I am sure you know this.
Please be more specific about your what "we still do in Iraq".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 07/16/2008
- lexnekst See Profile I'm a Fan of lexnekst permalink

You're tellin me they didn't know the soldiers were dead till they got them back???

That is so low.

This is why you don't negotiate with terrorists. Period. All this for 2 bodies, its sad.

My whole life, my whole life, I never NOT heard about the middle ease having conflict. It's just land people. If you reall ybelieve in God, you'd believe that God created the earth and it's all holy.

Or there is no God, and you're fighting for nothing. Either way it's dumb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 07/16/2008
- bigfro See Profile I'm a Fan of bigfro permalink

Yeah so the palestinians should stop occupying Israel and go home to Jordan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 07/16/2008
- AdamWykle See Profile I'm a Fan of AdamWykle permalink

No, the Palestinians invited Israel in 1948. Israel RSVP'd and everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 07/16/2008
- simcha See Profile I'm a Fan of simcha permalink

I suggest that people go to the website, International Campaign Against Honour Killings.
There have been more "honour killings" in the Palestinian territories perpetuated against
women, than killings of Palestinians by the Israelis.
Someone mentioned Rachel Cory in a posting. The cognitive dissonance involved by someone
who was a "humanitarian" like she was, is breathtaking. Gay people are killed, women are forced to marry, usually cousins; women endure genital mutilation, and of course, "honour killings".
This is not unique to Palestinians either. It is endemic across the Arab/Muslim world.
How the international "peace" groups and other assorted apologists for the Palestinians can ignore this, is beyond comprehension.
I don't support Israel unequivocally. I've been there several times. I criticize it when I feel it needs to be criticized.
The moral equivalency between Hamas, Hezbollah and the Israelis that is constantly posited here and elsewhere on Huffpost, is also offensive, and clearly expressed by those that choose not to read the history of the region.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 07/16/2008
- teembee See Profile I'm a Fan of teembee permalink

Simcha, you must remember that you are discussing a group of people who have barely
emerged from the stone age. They have little culture and no class. And these are the very people who have the nerve to call the Jews 'vermin'.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 07/16/2008
- strandwolf See Profile I'm a Fan of strandwolf permalink

You appear to suffer from cognitive dissonance yourself. You write off Rachel Cory as a dupe. Was her death thus excusable?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 07/16/2008
- jdfast See Profile I'm a Fan of jdfast permalink

I guess I don't understand why all the handringing. This has been going on since the mid 60 and no one on either side wants or has enough guts to make it stop. We have lost 4000+ in Iraq which is more important to me than what Israel and Hamas are doing in the middle east and have been doing for years. If we are not careful, we will be in the same postion in Afganistan and Iraq. Two fronts for our worn out troops. Give me a break about Israel and Hamas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 07/16/2008
- Mattie See Profile I'm a Fan of Mattie permalink

I'm so sorry for the parents, it's just so sad on both sides.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 07/16/2008
- LeoMarvin See Profile I'm a Fan of LeoMarvin permalink

Anyone who thinks there's a positive spin to put on "Samir Kantar" and "hero's welcome" appearing in the same sentence has some soul-searching to do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 07/16/2008
- danoj See Profile I'm a Fan of danoj permalink

Samir Kantar executed a 4 year old girl. I know the Isrealis feel strongly about never leaving anyone behind, but think they gave a little much for two coffins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 07/16/2008
- CurrerBell See Profile I'm a Fan of CurrerBell permalink

Agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/16/2008
- mredder4 See Profile I'm a Fan of mredder4 permalink

" "Samir Kantar is a brutal murderer of children and anybody celebrating him as a hero is trampling on basic human decency," said Mark Regev, spokesman for the Israeli prime minister. "

Coming from a spokesman for a government whose soldiers have killed hundreds if not thousands of Palestinian children (usually teenage males), that statement is worth less than the dirt these two sides are fighting over.

Don't get me wrong, the whole situation is a giant clusterF and neither side is in