US abandons Afghan outpost where 9 troops died

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FISNIK ABRASHI | July 16, 2008 02:34 PM EST | AP

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U.S. soldiers walk to pass a makeshift bridge on a patrol in Parun, the capital of Nuristan province, east of Kabul, Afghanistan, on Saturday, July 12, 2008. An insurgent raid that penetrated an American outpost in eastern Afghanistan, killing nine soldiers, has deepened doubts about the U.S. military's effort to contain Islamic militants and keep locals on its side. (AP Photo)

KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. troops abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine of their comrades this week, officials said Wednesday, in another sign of the struggle facing foreign and Afghan security forces strung out along the mountainous border.

Elsewhere in the frontier region, NATO launched artillery and helicopter strikes in Pakistan after coming under insurgent rocket fire, officials said.

The violence is another indication of the growing strength of the Taliban-led insurgency, especially in Afghanistan's east, where the outpost near the village of Wanat was breached by militants on Sunday. Nine Americans were killed in the deadliest incident for U.S. forces in three years.

On Tuesday, the insurgents drove out the handful of police left behind to defend government offices in the village, but 50 more officers were deployed Wednesday and soon regained control, senior provincial police official Ghoolam Farouq said.

The militants retreated into the mountains, and village elders negotiated a truce between the two sides, Farouq said.

Omar Sami, spokesman for the Nuristan provincial governor, said American and Afghan soldiers left the base Tuesday.

NATO confirmed that the post, which lies amid precipitous mountains close to the Pakistan border, had been vacated while insisting that international and Afghan troops will "retain a strong presence in that area with patrolling and other means."

In Washington, Pentagon leaders said Wednesday they are looking for ways to send additional troops to Afghanistan this year, signaling an acceleration in what had been plans to shift forces there no earlier than next year.

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"I think that we are clearly working very hard to see if there are opportunities to send additional forces sooner rather than later," Defense Secretary Robert Gates told Pentagon reporters. But, he added that no final decisions or recommendations have been made.

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who recently returned from meetings with commanders in Afghanistan, said they clearly want more troops.

"It's a tougher fight, it's a more complex fight, and they need more troops to have the long-term impact that we all want to have there," said Mullen, who also met last week with Pakistani leaders.

The Pentagon has been wrestling with how to provide what they say is a much needed military buildup in Afghanistan, while they still have 150,000 troops in Iraq.

The retreat from the eastern outpost will be considered a victory by the insurgents, and comes after a spate of security setbacks for President Hamid Karzai's government, including a spectacular Taliban jail break in the southern Kandahar province in June that freed about 900 inmates, and a spike in attacks alongside the border with Pakistan.

In response, Karzai has stepped up his rhetoric against neighboring Pakistan, whose lawless tribal areas adjacent to Afghanistan serve as sanctuaries for al-Qaida and other militants.

Karzai blames the attacks _ including suicide bombings and cross-border raids _ on Pakistan's intelligence service, alleging they are behind the insurgency in Afghanistan. Pakistan denies the charge saying Karzai is trying to create "an artificial crisis" to deflect attention from his own failings.

The accusations have pitched relations between these key U.S. allies to their lowest point since U.S. invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.

In other violence reported Wednesday, the U.S.-led coalition said eight civilians were killed when it called in airstrikes after one of its patrols came under attack in the country's west. The issue of civilian casualties has caused friction between the Afghan government and U.S. and NATO troops, and has weakened the popularity of the Western-backed Karzai.

In a separate statement, the coalition said another airstrike killed several militants after they attacked a joint U.S. and Afghan patrol in Kandahar province's Shah Wali district on Tuesday.

The governor of Kandahar said eight militants were killed during an operation in the southern province's Khakrez district in the past two days. A regional Taliban commander, Mullah Mahmoud, who controlled about 250 fighters, was among those killed, a NATO statement said.

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Associated Press writers Amir Shah in Kabul and Noor Khan in Kandahar and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington contributed to this report.

KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. troops abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine of their comrades this week, officials said Wednesday, in another sign of the strug...
KABUL, Afghanistan — U.S. troops abandoned a remote outpost in eastern Afghanistan where militants killed nine of their comrades this week, officials said Wednesday, in another sign of the strug...
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- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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It is good of us to pay attention to tony, it's real good, but I'm a bit nauseous now, ugh, I just threw up a little bit in my mouth, I'm out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 07/16/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1571 fans permalink
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Tony-a-Love represents the best and the brightest that the Right Wing has to offer. Also he/she is now a proud owner of an iPhone. Be respectful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 07/16/2008
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Someone better tell Tony that every time he listens to his iPhone voice mail, he is using a program written by someone in my family, who also happens to be a bleeding heart liberal.

Enjoy your iPhone, Tony!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 07/16/2008

Seriously that person just can't be for real. I really have more faith in Americans than to believe that anyone can be that entirely stupid and not be just having fun with us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 07/16/2008

By the way, the U.S. commanders knew full well that the defense would be against mortars. Every soldier in Afghanistan and Iraq know s this. Yet they left the soldiers without a cement wall vital for such defense!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 07/16/2008

And all units head into the field with cement walls and full engineer support. In fact, we should never even secure an area unless it provides 100% protection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 07/16/2008

A wall against mortars? Uh, mortars come DOWN, rpg's come straight at you. A wall doesn't for much good against indirect fire that falls on your head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 07/16/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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If we only had an Air Force, man that would be great...!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 07/16/2008
- bryansmith I'm a Fan of bryansmith 16 fans permalink
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I guess I missed a fight. Too bad.

Looks like Republicans are getting a bit sensitive about the Afghan issue. Truth hurts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 07/16/2008
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Question for TonyaLove

A simple "Yes" or "No" will be enough.

What is 2+2?

(That should keep her confused for the next six weeks, at least!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 07/16/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 263 fans permalink
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A Democrat would reply that there is no right or wrong answer, only point of view.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 07/16/2008

There's another good example of the complete incompetence of the Republicans. When we had Bin Laden on the run in Afghanistan and he crossed into Pakistan, the cowardly Republicans didn't have the courage to chase him there because they had nuclear weapons. Instead, they figured they could beat Iraq since we had been disarming them for the previous 11 years, they had no air force, and we already had a no fly zone in place. It didn't matter to the neo-cons that Iraq had nothing to do with al qaeda or 9/11, they just figured they'd be a weak target. Look at it now. Al qaeda is in Iraq where they weren't before, the Taliban and al qaeda are kicking us out of Afghanistan, and they've torn up our constitution because they are so afraid of the terrorists. We need some true Patriotic Democrats in charge of these affairs who will proudly uphold our constitution and aren't afraid to go after the real terrorists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 07/16/2008
- wmbear I'm a Fan of wmbear 24 fans permalink

I'D SAY...

That just about sums it up....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 07/16/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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If anyone here has been working on a cure for stupid here is your opportunity. Miracle worker, let me introduce you to TonyLuvRush. Good Luck !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 07/16/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1571 fans permalink
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Tony-a-Love is not stupid. He/she now owns an iPhone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 07/16/2008
- emmav70 I'm a Fan of emmav70 5 fans permalink

Barack Obama -- The best Commander In chief !!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 07/16/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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Question for Tony......

( that should keep him busy for days )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 07/16/2008

Is that your white flags proudly blowing here or is that your turbans hung out to dry ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/16/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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What is 1 plus 1 ? Go ahead, take off your shoes, we can wait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 07/16/2008
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What shoes?....­........:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 07/16/2008
- Donnat I'm a Fan of Donnat 22 fans permalink

-sigh- not another corner-tur­ning...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 07/16/2008
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Question for Tony-a-Love

Just one simple question, very easy to answer with a mere "yes" or "no."

Have you stopped having s-e-x with your dog?

Yes or no?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 07/16/2008
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And I thought it was a pony... Tony the Pony.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 07/16/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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Tonya,

Are you a "Patriot" or a "Regime Cheeleader"?

Take a minute....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 07/16/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1571 fans permalink
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Patriot. Definitely. Now commit harakiri and do something good for our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 07/16/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1571 fans permalink
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Sorry, friendly fire. :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 07/16/2008
- theMightyT I'm a Fan of theMightyT 171 fans permalink

Hey who do you think hates America more - Tony or Brad? They both seem to be for shredding the constitution and signing away personal rights and freedoms, like what Bush has been doing for the last 8 years, and also must be for denying Habeus Corpus... so they hate everything America has stood for for the last 200+ years... there also seems to be a lot of hatred for the troops, because the conservatives have allowed tragedies like Walter Reed to occur, and also conservatives voted against expanding troop benefits..­. wow they REALLY know how to hate!

But which one hates more... opinions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 07/16/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

Question for Tonya (dd).

how much money have you lost in the current financial meltdown?

LOL!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 07/16/2008
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Tony-a-Love is a proud owner of an iPhone. Be nice to him/her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 07/16/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

Neither Brad, DD, nor Betty Jo will be deployed to Iraq.

They each have their excuses, but the truth is it all comes down to their cowardice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 07/16/2008

Iraq has been a success so there is no need to deploy more soldiers there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 07/16/2008
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Liar.
And you're a fraud, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 07/16/2008
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