Bob Barr, will.i.am Attend Gore's New Energy Challenge Speech

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First Posted: 07-17-08 12:14 PM   |   Updated: 07-25-08 05:12 AM

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Just after taking the stage at Daughters of the American Revolution Hall in Washington, D.C. Thursday, former Vice President Al Gore thanked a packed house for attending his speech on how to combat climate change. And then he pointed to a couple of special guests: Libertarian Presidential Candidate Bob Barr and Black Eyed Peas rapper will.i.am (he of the now-famous "Yes We Can" YouTube video in support of Barack Obama).

Gore thanked will.i.am for making the trip from California, and praised Barr for his serious attention to the issue of global climate change.

After the crowd settled down, it wasn't long before Gore brought them to rapturous applause when he said, "We're borrowing money from China to buy oil from the Persian Gulf to burn it in ways that destroy the planet. Every bit of that's got to change."

Then Gore threw down his gauntlet: "Today I challenge our nation to commit to producing 100 percent of our electricity from renewable energy and truly clean carbon-free sources within 10 years."

The former vice president said his challenge is achievable and affordable now in a way it wasn't mere years ago, given the rising cost of oil and the impact of increased investment in new technologies. Specifically, Gore cited the fact that silicon needed for solar panels once fetched $300 per kilogram, but now only costs $50.

Perhaps acknowledging rumblings from Democrats who were reportedly worried that the speech comes at a time when Americans are more interested in lower gas prices than environmental lectures, Gore described his challenge as a necessary part of efforts to foster economic development and improve national security.

"Our dangerous over-reliance on carbon-based fuels is at the core of all three of [our] challenges -- the economic, environmental and national security crises."

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Later, Gore claimed that exploding demand for oil in China would keep driving up the global price of the commodity, no matter how much new drilling or exploration is undertaken by the United States. "And politicians cannot bring gasoline prices down in the short term," he said.

Gore admitted that major obstacles stand in the way of his challenge. He noted that the nation's power grid is not sufficiently strong to deliver renewable energy to all parts of the country, but he said "it has to be upgraded anyway." Much more threatening to his proposal, Gore said, was our "sclerotic" politics that only takes "baby steps" instead of decisive action.

"But I've begun to hear different voices in this country from people who ... are hungry for a new, different, and bold approach," Gore said.

Outside the forum, a cavalcade of anti-Gore protest organizations lined the streets, trying to make their counter-arguments. Lyndon LaRouche's partisans handed out a glossy flier entitled "The Implications of the Gore Hoax for International Policy." Other wags took up mock-collection plates to pay for Gore's own carbon footprint. But inside the hall, Gore's references to such past government efforts as the Marshall Plan and President Kennedy's call to reach the moon tapped a vein of enthusiasm in the crowd that resulted in a standing ovation as he left the stage.

UPDATE: In a statement released after Gore's speech, Barack Obama chimed in:

"For decades, Al Gore has challenged the skeptics in Washington on climate change and awakened the conscience of a nation to the urgency of this threat. I strongly agree with Vice President Gore that we cannot drill our way to energy independence, but must fast-track investments in renewable sources of energy like solar power, wind power and advanced biofuels, and those are the investments I will make as President. It's a strategy that will create millions of new jobs that pay well and cannot be outsourced, and one that will leave our children a world that is cleaner and safer."
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Al Gore is a complete fraud and an hypocrite. Global warming is not man made. There is plenty of oil in the world, as well as coal. Wind, solar, ethanol, geothermal (and where do we get that, Yellowstone) bio-fuels do not/ and will not even make a dent in our energy needs. These are the facts.

Now if people want to invest in alternative energy I say all the power to them. Between all the environmental fascists on here, Gores hundred million bucks and Picken's Billions, not to mention all the Hollywood money and others who are so concerned about this issue, you all could form a company and start your own research and start selling these alternatives, why do you need the government to do it? The fact is both Gore and Pickens know that it is not economically viable in the free market and they don't want to put there own money on the line.

OBAMA SHOWS HIS IGNORANCE AGAIN.....­."For decades, Al Gore has challenged the skeptics in Washington on climate change and awakened the conscience of a nation to the urgency of this threat."

I don't recall Gore ever mentioning any of this crap while he was V-P. Obama needs to think before he says such things....­at most Gore has been saying these things for the years after losing the election. I guess if you can't even get the number of states right, decades must just be another number that is subjective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 07/17/2008

I might recommend looking closer at your comment about energy. Germany set a goal of providing 20% of their electricity from alternative energy (solar PV) and have already decided that they will surpass that. Their goal is now 30% for 2020. Also, see this link from Scientific American: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=a-solar-grand-plan&page=1
My home is producing more electricity than I use and I have enough extra to power an electric car for all my driving needs. Cost for electricity from PV is very close to parity in Hawaii today.

We need the federal government to help by making it a level and uniform playing field for all businesses. Otherwise, they are stuck with different rules at every turn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/17/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 256 fans permalink

They also came to the conclusion that clean coal does not exist.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 07/17/2008

Great start buying some and put them up.....don­'t give me this government is the only way stuff. What level playing field are you talking about? The government monopolies granted to utility companies? maybe we should deregulate them, less government, not more would be better. Go to www.mrsolar.com and get all the solar power you want....it­s great for you that your producing excess energy but why must I live by your standards? Who the hell are you to tell me how to live my life?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 07/17/2008

Al Gore held hearings on climate change in the 80's and 90's.

Thanks for showing us your ignorance and projecting it onto Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 07/17/2008

You are right....I did some more research and he did. I was wrong about that. Thanks for pointing that out, however, if in the future you could provide references to look to it would be appreciated.

And there still aren't 57 states....­HA!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 07/17/2008

Mark, Al Gore has been researching and involved in working with others regarding global warming, climate change, etc. since his college days. You might not want to view An Inconvenient Truth, but his former college professor is on the film talking about just that.

You mention that the government should not invest in alternative energy; but, Mark, they give the oil companies millions of our tax dollars as subsidies--there is no difference. We have socialized corporatization (I did not coin this). We subsidize the farmers and the oil companies. We spend our tax dollars bailing out airlines and banks. Why not spend money on an effort that would actually provide some solutions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 07/17/2008

Your right....I had a post on another thread decrying the corporate welfare, subsidies for farmers and bailouts of companies.­...but putting tax payer money into this is just as bad, so lets stop both. Two wrongs don't make a right, correct?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 07/17/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

A phrased used by one of the posters here (sorry, don't remember)

Social the costs, privatize the profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 07/17/2008

The NeoCons will get on board when they realize there is fistfuls of cash to be made, they will struggle to link it to defending Israel, but it achieves one of their goals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 07/17/2008
- JJeff88 I'm a Fan of JJeff88 22 fans permalink

As I listened to the excerpts of Gore's speech aired by the cable news media, I was torn between tearing up or banging my head repeatedly against the wall in frustration.

He's right.

I just hope enough people get the message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 07/17/2008
- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 166 fans permalink

When the finite supply of copper, for example, encounters rising demand, the market responds by increasing the price. When the finite carrying capacity for carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere encounters rising demand for carbon emissions, there is no countervailing market force, and when that natural threshold is breeched, the consequences will not be localized to the market for carbon emissions.

A rising price of copper results in higher revenues for copper producers. But who is the producer of atmospheric capacity for carbon, and therefore who should collect the revenues from selling this capacity? If I convert oxygen into carbon dioxide, then who is on the other side of the ecological balance sheet?

You see, the valuable commodity at this time is oxygen, not carbon dioxide. The producers of carbon dioxide are consumers of oxygen and must pay for the oxygen they consume. The producers of oxygen, who consume carbon dioxide, are the natural beneficiaries of this transaction so long as the supply of carbon dioxide is increasing and the the supply of oxygen is decreasing.

This means that if I own a forest, then the coal industry pays me to produce the oxygen that they consume. If I produce electricity from renewable sources, than I pay far less money per kWh for consumed oxygen compared to my fossil-fuel competitors. Pristine wilderness, including swaths of marine territory populated by phytoplankton, would become lucrative investments, and there would be an incentive to protect them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 07/17/2008
- SmellyOne I'm a Fan of SmellyOne 28 fans permalink
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The REALITY of Energy Freedom is more important than the theory of Global Warming.

I've been saying for a year now, here on HuffPo, that we need leaders to stand up and give this type of speech. Glad to see someone is taking my advice...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 07/17/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1571 fans permalink
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LOL. Delusion of Grandeur.

The issue of "energy freedom" is local. Global Warming affects not just all humans, but all life. It is only the mentally challenged who would rank energy freedom as more important.

BTW, Global Warming is a phenomenon (not a theory). There are hard data to demonstrate its existence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/17/2008
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 131 fans permalink
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The GOPERS won't believe in global warming until they are floating on a tiny piece of ice in NYC, holding their bank books and keys to their SUV'S!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/17/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 316 fans permalink
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THIS is science - NOT opinion:

http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a788582859~db=all

"Cooling of Atmosphere Due to CO2 Emission"

Giordano Bruno was burned alive for telling the truth.

Now come and get me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 07/17/2008
- volum I'm a Fan of volum 2 fans permalink

Moga, this study is so full of holes it's embarassing. The entire scientific community has torn it to shreds, for many many reasons, most of which is the fact that this is a model output, not a measurement.

But, you wouldn't know that, because you haven't even read the data, or any to the contrary. You'd rather just read a few outlier bloggers and junk-scientists, and regurgitate whatever they've said.

Go back to school and learn remedial climatology, then you can have this debate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 07/17/2008

The paper you refer to was co-authored by George V Chilngar (aka G V Chingarian) who is president of the U.S. branch of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Both Chiingar(ian) and his co-author L F Khilyuk are in bed with the petroleum industry big time. The paper is full of errors and distortions. Perhaps you should read the entire paper before citing it as gospel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 07/17/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 84 fans permalink

Ha!

There. You've got my opinion on it.

You know, there are always going to be deniers, either paid or looney. But we, the earth science community, already concluded the evidence was genuine and overwhelming that anthropogenic sources of carbon, largely CO2, are acting as you've heard - as a "greenhouse gas" - to rise the temperature of the earth. What you're hawking doesn't fit our data.

No, I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove it to you - some people are beyond convincing. You are the one trying to convince people with arguments that don't fit the data, and my question is why, with a followup question of what's wrong with doing the things Al and many of are proposing?

Let me be clear; If the global warming theories are wrong, there's absolutely nothing harmful - and many things beneficial - with the activities we are advocating doing. They save money, they keep the environment cleaner, they stimulate industry and the economy in helpful ways just at the moment we most need that economic stimulus - the question is; what's wrong with you? What have you got against being healthy and making a living wage?
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 07/17/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 316 fans permalink
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Al Gore lost m respect, when he refused to accept the plea of half of the world - INCLUDUNG ME! - to run for the US-presidency in late 2007.

I'll give you a quip of what REALLY interests Al Gore: " I am invested in this - so I have a stake in it!" Al Gore in March 2008 before an elite group of investors in - L.A., I think - about investment­-opportuni­ties in "green energy".

First it was Global Warming.
Then it was Clinate Change.
Now it is giving the USA carbon-free electricity within the next 10 years.

A pattern. Anyone?

Don't get me wrong: I am absolutely FOR protecting the environment, saving oil and coal from being exhausted within the next 20 years for the rest of all times - as well as I am FOR giving the World a new, future-headed impetus.

It's "Slick Al" Gore, who I despise. Once, I gave that man all the trust and faith I could spare - only to find out the hard way that, all he is - is a money-loving windbag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 07/17/2008

Wow! Stick it to a man for not wanting to run for President again? As far as changing global energy habits, it's the public and private sector that must lead the way and it must be profitable, as it will be. Al Gore is a leader of his cause, a cause we all can lead. If a green tech company is profitable, I will invest myself for my retirement nest egg and the health of the planet. I will also sleep really well a night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 07/17/2008

If he really was a leader, he would start in his own personal home and stop spending $30,000 a year on electric bills. Can you imagine how much electricity he is wasting?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 07/17/2008

I confess freedly to being a "denier" regarding the CO2 and warming connection (though I prefer the term "heretic"), but I don't hate Gore and I don't think the IPCC is a mega-hoax intended to cripple the west and make the enviromental movies billionaires, even if it would. I think Gore is a great presenter and an intelligent guy, but I think he's wrong in his specifics just as he's been so wrong i the past as when he selected his VP in 2000, and just as he was when he attempted to fix the federal government's effectiveness by overseeing GPRA in the late 90s. Never the less, the carbon based economy is to me synonymous with "soot", persistant organic pollutants and rapacious land management practices; enough reason to want to see a serious undertaking in controlling those ecosystem destroying activities, global warming or not.
As marvelous as the idea of a world changing in ten years, we need to keep in mind the tenuous connection we have with our incredibly huge industrial/economic environment. Too radid a change and the inertia inherent in this structure can break and actually do more damage than the problem it's attempting to address. Consensus is nice but it has to translate into alliances which are formed on trust and there's not a lot of trust possible when opposing sides spend so much time disparaging those who have opposing perspectives, resulting in widespread resentment instead of creative solutions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 07/17/2008
- RedDogBear I'm a Fan of RedDogBear 66 fans permalink
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I don't care what you call yourself but among intelligent people its customary to have some evidence for your beliefs. Do you deny that every reputable climate scientist now acknowledges the connection between CO2 and global warming? You sound like a fairly reasonable person and not some flat earther so what do you know that the climate scientists don't? I wonder do you have children? Even if there is a 50% chance you are right (there isn't but just for the sake of argument) is it worth the 50% risk that you might be wrong to screw the planet forever for your children and their children? If you are wrong and all the climate scientists are right things are happening NOW that will be virtually impossible to reverse if we don't act immediately.

The real facts though are that there is already a new economy taking shape in the world and the leaders in this new world will not be the ones with the biggest military, they will be the countries that take leadership and establish new technologies and industries based on them. The short sighted point of view from "heretics" such as you are dooming this county to the same fate as the former Soviet Union.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 07/17/2008

"Too radid a change and the inertia inherent in this structure can break and actually do more damage than the problem it's attempting to address."

When the inertia of the economic environment closely resembles that of an airplane in a tight out of control downward spn I really don't think a rapid change is out of order.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 07/17/2008
- falco I'm a Fan of falco 19 fans permalink

Notice the flags behind Gore in the HufPo picture. US flags with gold trim and gold fringe. Did you know that this is not our flag? More about the flag:

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flag.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 07/17/2008
- volum I'm a Fan of volum 2 fans permalink

Oh, go eat a flag, falco.

What a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 07/17/2008

But was he wearing a flag pin? And if so, was it authentic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 07/17/2008
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And this is important because?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 07/17/2008
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Wow...Look­s like G man is gonna rally America toward a greater cause...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 07/17/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

Gore is a nut and a hypocrit. Nice his claim to fame is going to be a nutty energy policy that would never work. Hey, if I buy a grove of trees is it okay for my home to produce 250 times what the average persons does. This man is a fraud and a hypocrit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 07/17/2008
- volum I'm a Fan of volum 2 fans permalink

Actually, you are the fraud who doesn't understand the basics of carbon-offsetting.

But, you'd rather live in ignorance so you can scream on blogs about how much you don't know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 07/17/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

And Obama agreeing with Gore is just about as close as the two will get on this campaign trail. Gore discharged his responsibility with a boring speech at a unity event that was a PR fiasco, complete with boos from the crowd. Party Unity, my ***.

Here's his payback.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 07/17/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Poor bitter angry white Appalachian PumaAnn, you're so confused.

Let me help.

a. You hate_top Democrats
b. You are willing to vote against your own interests due to spite
c. You take pride in your hatred_and ignorance.

Conclusion: YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN.

Less confused now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 07/17/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 85 fans permalink

Gore is just more committed to his issue and wants to spend all his time there. He already said that he would not be doing a lot of campaigning for Obama, but he endorsed Obama, and, likewise, Obama agrees with and will work to implement Gore's global warming agenda. It's just a matter of priorities on how one is going to use his time, and I wouldn't be surprised that President Obama will make Gore something like an energy czar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 07/17/2008
- demfriend I'm a Fan of demfriend 22 fans permalink
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Anyone else out there who heard JFK set a timetable/goal for when we would put a man on the moon? Did that didn't we? Too bad JFK wasn't around to see it become fact. Al has it right to put it out there and now let the GOP, bush, mccain and Cheney make asses of themselves by making it sound like Al Gore is a wingnut! Of course if it panders the votes then Mccain will claim it as his idea too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 07/17/2008
- suntzu I'm a Fan of suntzu 16 fans permalink
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Larry (Wide Stance) Craig want the US to produce more oil so "the Venezualans, Nigerians, and Saudi Arabians, and the Iranians can't JERK US AROUND BY THE GAS NOZZLE the way they are doing it now."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vqANJCATrE&eurl=http://talkingpointsmemo.com/

Woohoo! What a relief not to be jerked around by the gas nozzle.

What was Larry thinking?

The only thing wrong Larry, is we are the ones jerking ourselves around by the gas nozzle. Americans are the most gas guzzling people on the face of the earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 07/17/2008
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i tuned into his senate speech. funny he should use the term "jerking us around".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 07/17/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 327 fans permalink
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Yeah, this republican's, real comedians, cleaver, innovative, visionary, forward thinking, moral, truthful

Honest

not

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 07/17/2008

Great speech.
Break the cycle!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 07/17/2008

The commentary on this post is sad, but the article is great. Those who choose to believe that Bush and Cheney are right, and that we should open drilling for Oil that we won't even use for decades, those are the people who will be responsible for the end of life as we know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 07/17/2008
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