MoveOn At Ten

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The Nation   |   July 17, 2008 05:07 PM


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Five years to the day after American forces began their campaign of "shock and awe" in Iraq, opponents of the war gathered in Washington. While some came with bullhorns and drums and flag-draped coffins, danced down K Street and confronted legislators on Capitol Hill, others formed a quiet vigil in Lafayette Park across from the White House. Here there were no bullhorns or drums. Instead, there were a few news cameras, a banner that read Invest in America, Not Endless War in Iraq and a clutch of several dozen members of MoveOn. Bill Hamm, a retired Air Force pilot from Texas who had come to Washington for the Take Back America conference, told me that during his military career, fellow pilots often gave him push back because of his liberal politics. But, he said, "I think that's changing now." Hamm told me that back in Austin, where he and his wife serve as regional coordinators for MoveOn's local councils, his wife was organizing a 150-person vigil outside the governor's mansion. Because of "war on terror" restrictions they were told they couldn't bring candles. "So they're going to use flashlights."

This year, MoveOn turns ten. News of the organization's advanced age tends to elicit the same startled response as word of a childhood star's divorce. But more important, the anniversary serves to highlight just how far the organization has come. What started as a simple one-sentence petition hastily posted to the web has evolved into the most readily identifiable group in the vanguard of a revived progressivism, with a membership that exceeds 3 million. Capable of dominating a news cycle with a single ad and raising millions of dollars with a lone e-mail, MoveOn pioneered an entire approach to conducting politics through the Internet that has been replicated and spun off across the country and around the globe, an approach that, as the Obama campaign has dramatically demonstrated, has permanently transformed the landscape of American politics. And yet the roots of its success remain largely misunderstood.

This is in large part because MoveOn has been viewed through the distorting lens of a four-decade culture-war narrative, one whose labels have long outlasted the movements and dynamics that gave rise to them. In 1968, as the country approached what seemed to many at the time something like a civil war, Richard Nixon addressed the Republican National Convention in Miami Beach. He described "cities enveloped in flame...sirens in the night...Americans hating each other, fighting each other, killing each other at home." Amid this tumult and chaos, Nixon presented himself as a tribune for those who weren't in the streets, who weren't seeking out confrontation and attention, "the forgotten Americans," he called them, "the non-shouters."

Forty years later, despite tectonic shifts in demographics and politics, our political map still bears the same key: a decent silent majority on one side besieged by a zealous, angry, out-of-touch left on the other. For movement conservatives and establishment centrists alike, MoveOn is just a new name for an old foe. Bill O'Reilly has called it "vicious," "radical," full of "fanatical left-wingers" who are blackmailing the Democratic Party. John McCain, not to be outdone, responded to the "General Betray Us" ad by telling a Republican audience this past fall that MoveOn "ought to be thrown out of this country." Ostensibly mainstream voices like CNN's Campbell Brown have referred to MoveOn as "American insurgents," while Peter Beinart, in a 2004 cover essay in The New Republic, suggested that MoveOn be purged from the center left just as communists once were. Democrats have gotten in on the act as well: Hillary Clinton told donors at a private fundraiser that MoveOn had "intimidated" her supporters in the caucus states, and Barack Obama took a veiled swipe at the group in his recent speech on patriotism.

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- RTIII See Profile I'm a Fan of RTIII permalink


Anyone who thinks MoveOn is progressive isn't paying attention.

I'm one of the people who received the original email that got the movement started. I wasn't in the core group - I wish I would have taken the opportunity to get better hooked in then, because it's IMPOSSIBLE to communicate with the leaders now if you're not already their buddy. And that's frustrating.

I have been trying to convince the movement to go for impeachment, but they won't even discuss it - not just now, but ever. Some watch-dog group!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 07/18/2008
- Liberoservative See Profile I'm a Fan of Liberoservative permalink

Impeachment would be self serving at this point in time.... we are going for criminal prosecution, hope... War Crimes....
I don't know much about the law, but I think that we have to do one or the other.... please enlighten me if I am wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 07/18/2008
- RTIII See Profile I'm a Fan of RTIII permalink


Not impeaching puts us at risk of WWIII.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 07/19/2008
- eden4barack08 See Profile I'm a Fan of eden4barack08 permalink

Liberal vs Neocon = Common sense vs Insanity.

She put it so well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 07/18/2008
- unitedstates See Profile I'm a Fan of unitedstates permalink

moveon is trying to paint a less radical image cause they lost lots of support by backing a particular candidate in the primaries. screw move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 AM on 07/18/2008
- whizkid See Profile I'm a Fan of whizkid permalink

How far has the organization gone?
Much like Huffpo they help the right and lose elections for Democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 AM on 07/18/2008
- brighterside See Profile I'm a Fan of brighterside permalink

How is Moveon and Huffpo helping the right?

The reasons why Democrats lost in 2000 and 2004 was because of the rightwing media machine and their propaganda. The republicans never play by the issues and use swift boat tactics to get their elected people into office like Bush.

In my opinion the blogosphere like Huffpo is another extension of true democracy. It allows those to form their own opinions and to announce it to whomever cares to listen. This allows our government a way to get their act together and not cheat and lie to the people that get them into office.

Without blogs like Huffpo, the rightwing propaganda machine will elect officials into power that have no qualifications whatsoever. See GWB as an example. Thats why most informed people these days go online to get their news like Huffpo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 AM on 07/18/2008
- foreffectivegovernment See Profile I'm a Fan of foreffectivegovernment permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 07/18/2008
- LiberalBuzz See Profile I'm a Fan of LiberalBuzz permalink

So Soros isn't allowed to support Obama?

AND I saw nothing in there that said Soros is "funding" Moveon. Rather Moveon is supported by us, the supporters and members of Moveon.

BUT even IF Soros funding Moveon...so EFFEN WHAT???

What's that too you?

Billionaires are only allowed to support outfits like the Swift Boat Liars for Bushy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 07/18/2008
- brighterside See Profile I'm a Fan of brighterside permalink

I love Moveon. They are an activist group built on social action rather than social service.

I don't care what those media pundits say about this organization. They represent the people of America and allow them to exercise their rights as individuals granted to us by the constitution.

Calling this group socialism or communism doesn't know anything about government and doesn't serve justice to what Moveon is about.

Moveon.org is what America is all about. Its about giving our rights to question those in authority and to make sure the ones we vote for actually fulfill their promises to the people. Its a voice for the little people that consistently is shun by those in the media. And its a media platform to bring out what's best for our country.

Moveon is a "people power" group that take action on the injustices of the political system.

You won't have this type of organization in Russia or China, so therefore you can't call this a form of communism.

This organization represents what's great about America and I'm never more proud for a group like this that make sure the people's voices are heard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 07/17/2008
- dukeman See Profile I'm a Fan of dukeman permalink

Right on, MoveOn!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 07/18/2008
- eden4barack08 See Profile I'm a Fan of eden4barack08 permalink

Indeed, brighter, I concur.

Here's to moveon.org!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 07/18/2008
- Dap See Profile I'm a Fan of Dap permalink

))))))))))))))))))))) Without Question ((((((((((((((((((((((((

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 07/17/2008
- ohiomark See Profile I'm a Fan of ohiomark permalink

Far left radicals never think they are radical, just like morons don't know they are morons.

It's not their fault that they think they are normal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 07/17/2008
- Dap See Profile I'm a Fan of Dap permalink

YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwwwww!

We, the People (so called morons) are taking our beloved Country back, from the corrupt GOP (indeed, Mental Midgets)

Deal with it !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 07/17/2008
- jeanrenoir See Profile I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir permalink

Please DO drive the GOP into the Potomac! BUT don't just organize to do it, DO it. And make sure that everything you do actually HELPS Obama win, because, otherwise, you could end up being the Republicans' best friends, and suckers, just as the LIbertarians are now the best helpers Obama could ask for. Before they imploded because of the perfect storm of Abramoff, the neocons' total fiasco in Iraq, including wiping out the dollar and thus tripling our gas pricds, and the terrible economic performance of Bush in general, the Republicans used to be ruthlessly politically smart. They used to measure EVERYTHING by whether it would play in Peoria. And they beat high-minded Democrats that way over and over again, between '68 and '92. But then Bill Clinton, whom I admittedly detest, got smarter, and beat the Republicans at their own game. I know MoveOn wants to be above all this, but there IS no way to win and be above smart, ruthless political calculation, because if you lose, you've betrayed your cause much, much more than if you compromise and only get 50% for it, right? Please keep up your good work, but also please do your best not to be the best friend of McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 07/18/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

Not to mention you capitalized "Country" for some reason . . . mental midget.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 07/17/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

LOL, we got a "YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwwwww!" from the person not a mental midget.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 07/17/2008
- nellie See Profile I'm a Fan of nellie permalink

Someone is living in the fifties. McCain, is that you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 07/17/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

Can't argue with that, when you say that Hillary or Nancy Pelosi are right winger you know you have lost all of your marbles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 07/17/2008
- LiberalBuzz See Profile I'm a Fan of LiberalBuzz permalink

Just like Neo Cons and those who support them think they are brilliant when in reality they are traitors who would gladly sell their mothers for a good stock tip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 07/17/2008
- JohnFromCensornati See Profile I'm a Fan of JohnFromCensornati permalink

...who would gladly trade their children's futures away to defend the sanctity of marriage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 07/17/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

Neocons is such a cool word, not sure why everyone is a neocon that doesn't agree with the far left tree huggers but it brings a smile to my face everytime someone on this board uses it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 07/17/2008
- rollingdivision See Profile I'm a Fan of rollingdivision permalink

As long as you're fine with socialism, increasing the size of government and giving more influence, power and control of all US citizens lives to politicians and bureaucrats, moveon isn't radical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 07/17/2008
- Liberoservative See Profile I'm a Fan of Liberoservative permalink

Good grief... the last 8 years of Repub "leadership" has seen the biggest growth of government yet!

Where have you been drinking your Kool aid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 07/17/2008
- rollingdivision See Profile I'm a Fan of rollingdivision permalink

You present a false dichotomy, we do not have to support Republican government expansion or support progressives' government expansion, both are ultimately evil. I support neither. Moveon, progressives (sic) advocates even more massive increases in the power of politicians than the Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 07/18/2008
- rollingdivision See Profile I'm a Fan of rollingdivision permalink

Please, name some of the many national issues for which moveon and progressives DO NOT advocate a government solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 07/18/2008
- brighterside See Profile I'm a Fan of brighterside permalink

You are gravely mistaken.

Moveon gives the control and power back to the people.

And let me rephrase the truth for you:

As long as you're fine with fascism, increasing the size of government and giving more influence, power and control of all US citizens lives to politicians and bureaucrats, Faux news and the republican party isn't radical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 07/17/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

How does a website give control and power to the people?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 07/17/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

Correct, the progressive movement is all about socialism and trying to get others to pay for your way instead of earning it yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 07/17/2008
- brighterside See Profile I'm a Fan of brighterside permalink

Is a socialist/communist government one that allows people to voice their opinions and point out the injustices of our nation?

Last I heard that it was illegal to do that in Russia or China. Than how could it be considered socialism?

Those republican supporters are so brainwashed by the media like Faux news that they will believe anything they say.

A group like Moveon is no where close to what socialism is all about. Its about what the constitution gives us all the rights to do. Please get that straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 07/17/2008
- nellie See Profile I'm a Fan of nellie permalink

Biggest debt EVER. Biggest government EVER. Billions of dollars in bail outs and subsidies. Under what kind of administration? REPUBLICAN.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 07/17/2008
- nellie See Profile I'm a Fan of nellie permalink

Well, the Republicans don't see anything wrong with socialism. They keep socializing corporate losses and giving BILLIONS of dollars in corporate welfare. If they don't mind, why should you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 07/17/2008
- UnbiasView See Profile I'm a Fan of UnbiasView permalink

How so? Do you mean fannie & freddie?