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Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki Backs Obama Troop Exit Plan


First Posted: 07-19-08 09:33 AM   |   Updated: 07-27-08 05:12 AM

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***UPDATE*** 7/20, 11:50pm ET A spokesman for al-Maliki has said the Prime Minister's comments were "mistranslated", but Der Spiegel is standing by its story:

Maliki was quick to back away from an outright endorsement of Obama, saying "who they choose as their president is the Americans' business." But he then went on to say: "But it's the business of Iraqis to say what they want. And that's where the people and the government are in general agreement: The tenure of the coalition troops in Iraq should be limited."


A Baghdad government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, said in a statement that SPIEGEL had "misunderstood and mistranslated" the Iraqi prime minister, but didn't point to where the misunderstanding or mistranslation might have occurred. Al-Dabbagh said Maliki's comments "should not be understood as support to any US presidential candidates." The statement was sent out by the press desk of the US-led Multinational Force in Iraq.

A number of media outlets likewise professed to being confused by the statement from Maliki's office. The New York Times pointed out that al-Dabbagh's statement "did not address a specific error." CBS likewise expressed disbelief pointing out that Maliki mentions a timeframe for withdrawal three times in the interview and then asks, "how likely is it that SPIEGEL mistranslated three separate comments? Matthew Yglesias, a blogger for the Atlantic Monthly, was astonished by "how little effort was made" to make the Baghdad denial convincing. And the influential blog IraqSlogger also pointed out the lack of specifics in the government statement.

SPIEGEL sticks to its version of the conversation.

The New York Times reports that US Embassy Officials contacted Maliki's office to "explain" how the Prime Minister's comments were being interpreted:

The interview prompted immediate concern from the Bush administration, which called to seek clarification from Mr. Maliki's office, American officials said.


Scott M. Stanzel, a White House spokesman with President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Tex., said that embassy officials explained to the Iraqis how the interview in Der Spiegel was being interpreted, given that it came just a day after the two governments announced an agreement over American troops.

"The Iraqis were not aware and wanted to correct it," he said.

The Washington Post confirms that the tepid retraction came after a call from Embassy officials:

The statement by an aide to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki calling his remarks in Der Spiegel "misinterpreted and mistranslated" followed a call to the prime minister's office from U.S. government officials in Iraq.

***EARLIER***

From Reuters:

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told a German magazine he supported prospective U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.

In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.

"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

It is the first time he has backed the withdrawal timetable put forward by Obama.

Dr. Susan Rice, senior national security advisor to the Obama Campaign, issued this statement in response to al-Maliki's declaration of support:

Senator Obama welcomes Prime Minister Maliki's support for a 16 month timeline for the redeployment of U.S combat brigades. This presents an important opportunity to transition to Iraqi responsibility, while restoring our military and increasing our commitment to finish the fight in Afghanistan.

Joe Klein, writing on the Time Magazine website, said that Maliki's position is a bad omen for the McCain campaign:

In short, what Maliki is saying is: Please leave, as soon as possible. He may be saying this for local, political reasons, in the runup to the regional Iraqi elections, but he's saying it.


In the U.S., this is all bad news for the McCain campaign. Yes, McCain was right about the Surge, but that is a small, tactical truth too complicated to be understood by most Americans. Maliki Endorses Obama Withdrawal Plan is a headline everyone can understand. Maliki is also endorsing another position favored by Obama and opposed by McCain: no long-term (100 year) bases.

With this happening in the same week that the Bush Administration not only has agreed to sit down with the Iranians but also (and even more significant) is exploring the possibility of establishing a U.S. diplomatic Interests Section in Tehran, another of McCain's foreign policy pillars--the nonrecognition of Iran--seems to be cratering as well.

It will be interesting to see how McCain responds to all this. But it does seem that real events in the real world are endorsing Obama's foreign policy vision, not McCain's.

Josh Marshall writes, "In a stroke, I think, al Maliki has cut McCain off at the knees in a way I'm not sure his campaign strategy can recover from." Tom Hayden calls it a "stunning diplomatic breakthrough."

Marc Ambinder at The Atlantic declares Maliki's move a possible game-changer:

This could be one of those unexpected events that forever changes the way the world perceives an issue. Iraq's Prime Minister agrees with Obama, and there's no wiggle room or fudge factor. This puts John McCain in an extremely precarious spot: what's left to argue? to argue against Maliki would be to predicate that Iraqi sovereignty at this point means nothing. Obviously, our national interests aren't equivalent to Iraq's, but... Malik isn't listening to the generals on the ground...but the "hasn't been to Iraq" line doesn't work here.


So how will the McCain campaign respond?

Update: McCain campaign finally releases a statement:

ARLINGTON, VA -- Today, McCain 2008 Senior Foreign Policy Advisor Randy Scheunemann issued the following statement:


"The difference between John McCain and Barack Obama is that Barack Obama advocates an unconditional withdrawal that ignores the facts on the ground and the advice of our top military commanders. John McCain believes withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground. Prime Minister Maliki has repeatedly affirmed the same view, and did so again today. Timing is not as important as whether we leave with victory and honor, which is of no apparent concern to Barack Obama. The fundamental truth remains that Senator McCain was right about the surge and Senator Obama was wrong. We would not be in the position to discuss a responsible withdrawal today if Senator Obama's views had prevailed."


***UPDATE*** 7/20, 11:50pm ET A spokesman for al-Maliki has said the Prime Minister's comments were "mistranslated", but Der Spiegel is standing by its story: Maliki was quick to back away from an ou...
***UPDATE*** 7/20, 11:50pm ET A spokesman for al-Maliki has said the Prime Minister's comments were "mistranslated", but Der Spiegel is standing by its story: Maliki was quick to back away from an ou...
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07:53 PM on 07/21/2008
2 year and 4 year troop withdrwl isn't a hell of a lot of differnce, nobody should be happy about either. Eithr they do a complete withdrawl of all troops the day he takes office, or its a joke. Our troops are over extended, getting killed on a daily basis, its a crime to force this to go on any further. As my Irish grandmother use to say s**T or get off the pot!
07:44 PM on 07/21/2008
The difference , and Maliki corrected. it is conditioned exit on events on the ground. Der spiegel can say what they want but there were using the Translater of Maliki. I do not believe that if Obama were president in Jan 2009 that he would leave in 16 months without conditions. If we would have left in March 2007 without a surge, it would have been a disaster. It was a success because of the politis, but the Shite miliias were distroyed. I do not believe Obama is an ideologue , maybe he is; I hope he would be a rational president and listen to the left, I might be wrong, Huffington Post tell what he will do...
06:26 PM on 07/21/2008
What's the difference between a timeline and a time horizon? Well, both you can see ahead of you but the latter you will never meet. The White House has FINALLY admitted the truth in their Iraq strategy - there is no end.
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LeftLeanWing
Ah.. I said..Ah Said I said... Proceed Guv'nah
07:07 PM on 07/21/2008
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You Say Potato




And I Say Potato
06:23 PM on 07/21/2008
TIMELINE? TIME 'HORIZON'?
What's the difference between a timeline and a time horizon? Well, both you can see ahead of you but the latter you will never meet. The White House has FINALLY admitted the truth in their Iraq strategy - there is no end.
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mimsnpips
it just keeps gettin darker outside
06:56 PM on 07/21/2008
Maybe it's an event horizon. Now That's a horizon!
05:37 PM on 07/21/2008
This shows who the true rulers of Iraq are. Not al-Maliki and his "administration", but the mis-administration of Bush.

Oh, I'm sorry, has this sentiment been posted here two thousand times already? My bad.
10:27 PM on 07/21/2008
Wow! You really think there are two thousand mental midgets here?!
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ObamAtomic
05:34 PM on 07/21/2008
Spinning the machine Trent Lott, Bush sr,Bush jr,McCain,"Good Company*
3 company's more than 200 years combine!
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lainey
Always remember Troy Davis.
05:13 PM on 07/21/2008
The people of Iraq and the people of America are in agreement...it is time to leave Iraq. Maliki's words were clear, regardless of whether or not he takes them back.
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ObamAtomic
05:13 PM on 07/21/2008
Puppet?
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firewmn
Korean Vets Deserve Better VA healthcare!
05:00 PM on 07/21/2008
Who wants a "Timeline Horizon". Everybody (except Bush) knows a Horizon is something you can only see but can never reach - alas - "Horizon"
06:13 PM on 07/21/2008
Bush had a drinking buddy that drove a 1981 Horizon. Call him stupid will ya --- HA !!
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04:41 PM on 07/21/2008
Apparently in Iraq it is a idiomatic expression to say "is" when you mean "is not" etc. this is probably why we have had such a problem over there. We are just now understanding the idiom.
04:22 PM on 07/21/2008
But what happened to the NBC Civil W@r claim?
05:29 PM on 07/21/2008
No don't want to touch that one either.
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06:17 PM on 07/21/2008
The "Civil War" meme has been scrubbed from the 0bama web site.

June 22, 2008 version

The Problem
The Surge: The goal of the surge was to create space for Iraq's political leaders to reach an agreement to end Iraq's civil war. At great cost, our troops have helped reduce violence in some areas of Iraq, but even those reductions do not get us below the unsustainable levels of violence of mid-2006. Moreover, Iraq's political leaders have made no progress in resolving the political differences at the heart of their civil war.
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July 14, 2008 version

The Problem
Inadequate Security and Political Progress in Iraq: Since the surge began, more than 1,000 American troops have died, and despite the improved security situation, the Iraqi government has not stepped forward to lead the Iraqi people and to reach the genuine political accommodation that was the stated purpose of the surge. Our troops have heroically helped reduce civilian casualties in Iraq to early 2006 levels. This is a testament to our military"s hard work, improved counterinsurgency tactics, and enormous sacrifice by our troops and military families. It is also a consequence of the decision of many Sunnis to turn against al Qaeda in Iraq, and a lull in Shia militia activity. But the absence of genuine political accommodation in Iraq is a direct result of President Bush"s failure to hold the Iraqi government accountable.
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mouselion
04:08 PM on 07/21/2008
Randy Scheunemann's statement that Obama wanting unconditional withdrawal is disingenuous. Bloggers, columnists and commentators need to point this out.

"John McCain believes withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground."
This is exactly what Obama stressed was his position.
Vociferously stress this point far and wide!
04:05 PM on 07/21/2008
McCain plans to install Rudy Giuliani as Mayor of Baghdad. He knows how to run a police state.
04:03 PM on 07/21/2008
What the?
what kind of money is Al Maliki getting?
ask that question.
05:15 PM on 07/21/2008
Personally I believe that Maliki is full of malarkey and has a relationship with the Iranians that make me doubt his sincerity. With this administration you cannot believe very much. If this was a Pinochio
comedy the entire White House,Justice Department and the Cabinet and all the aides would all have noses three feet long. Is there any accountability or trustworthy people anywhere in this administration ? Almost every agency has skewed facts and figures to present slanted facts and figures to attain the desired votes for very bad ( for America ) programs. If impeachment comes the evidence is insurmountable. I can hear the shredders humming and smell the little fires burning.
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cannondaddy
04:00 PM on 07/21/2008
So now there’s a conditions-based general time horizon for leaving in 16+/- months.

Unless there’s a flair up on the Iraqi/Pakistan border…