Iraqi Prime Minister Maliki Backs Obama Troop Exit Plan

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First Posted: 07-19-08 09:33 AM   |   Updated: 07-27-08 05:12 AM

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***UPDATE*** 7/20, 11:50pm ET A spokesman for al-Maliki has said the Prime Minister's comments were "mistranslated", but Der Spiegel is standing by its story:

Maliki was quick to back away from an outright endorsement of Obama, saying "who they choose as their president is the Americans' business." But he then went on to say: "But it's the business of Iraqis to say what they want. And that's where the people and the government are in general agreement: The tenure of the coalition troops in Iraq should be limited."


A Baghdad government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, said in a statement that SPIEGEL had "misunderstood and mistranslated" the Iraqi prime minister, but didn't point to where the misunderstanding or mistranslation might have occurred. Al-Dabbagh said Maliki's comments "should not be understood as support to any US presidential candidates." The statement was sent out by the press desk of the US-led Multinational Force in Iraq.

A number of media outlets likewise professed to being confused by the statement from Maliki's office. The New York Times pointed out that al-Dabbagh's statement "did not address a specific error." CBS likewise expressed disbelief pointing out that Maliki mentions a timeframe for withdrawal three times in the interview and then asks, "how likely is it that SPIEGEL mistranslated three separate comments? Matthew Yglesias, a blogger for the Atlantic Monthly, was astonished by "how little effort was made" to make the Baghdad denial convincing. And the influential blog IraqSlogger also pointed out the lack of specifics in the government statement.

SPIEGEL sticks to its version of the conversation.

The New York Times reports that US Embassy Officials contacted Maliki's office to "explain" how the Prime Minister's comments were being interpreted:

The interview prompted immediate concern from the Bush administration, which called to seek clarification from Mr. Maliki's office, American officials said.


Scott M. Stanzel, a White House spokesman with President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Tex., said that embassy officials explained to the Iraqis how the interview in Der Spiegel was being interpreted, given that it came just a day after the two governments announced an agreement over American troops.

"The Iraqis were not aware and wanted to correct it," he said.

The Washington Post confirms that the tepid retraction came after a call from Embassy officials:

The statement by an aide to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki calling his remarks in Der Spiegel "misinterpreted and mistranslated" followed a call to the prime minister's office from U.S. government officials in Iraq.
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***EARLIER***

From Reuters:

Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki told a German magazine he supported prospective U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's proposal that U.S. troops should leave Iraq within 16 months.

In an interview with Der Spiegel released on Saturday, Maliki said he wanted U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq as soon as possible.

"U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes."

It is the first time he has backed the withdrawal timetable put forward by Obama.

Dr. Susan Rice, senior national security advisor to the Obama Campaign, issued this statement in response to al-Maliki's declaration of support:

Senator Obama welcomes Prime Minister Maliki's support for a 16 month timeline for the redeployment of U.S combat brigades. This presents an important opportunity to transition to Iraqi responsibility, while restoring our military and increasing our commitment to finish the fight in Afghanistan.

Joe Klein, writing on the Time Magazine website, said that Maliki's position is a bad omen for the McCain campaign:

In short, what Maliki is saying is: Please leave, as soon as possible. He may be saying this for local, political reasons, in the runup to the regional Iraqi elections, but he's saying it.


In the U.S., this is all bad news for the McCain campaign. Yes, McCain was right about the Surge, but that is a small, tactical truth too complicated to be understood by most Americans. Maliki Endorses Obama Withdrawal Plan is a headline everyone can understand. Maliki is also endorsing another position favored by Obama and opposed by McCain: no long-term (100 year) bases.

With this happening in the same week that the Bush Administration not only has agreed to sit down with the Iranians but also (and even more significant) is exploring the possibility of establishing a U.S. diplomatic Interests Section in Tehran, another of McCain's foreign policy pillars--the nonrecognition of Iran--seems to be cratering as well.

It will be interesting to see how McCain responds to all this. But it does seem that real events in the real world are endorsing Obama's foreign policy vision, not McCain's.

Josh Marshall writes, "In a stroke, I think, al Maliki has cut McCain off at the knees in a way I'm not sure his campaign strategy can recover from." Tom Hayden calls it a "stunning diplomatic breakthrough."

Marc Ambinder at The Atlantic declares Maliki's move a possible game-changer:

This could be one of those unexpected events that forever changes the way the world perceives an issue. Iraq's Prime Minister agrees with Obama, and there's no wiggle room or fudge factor. This puts John McCain in an extremely precarious spot: what's left to argue? to argue against Maliki would be to predicate that Iraqi sovereignty at this point means nothing. Obviously, our national interests aren't equivalent to Iraq's, but... Malik isn't listening to the generals on the ground...but the "hasn't been to Iraq" line doesn't work here.


So how will the McCain campaign respond?

Update: McCain campaign finally releases a statement:

ARLINGTON, VA -- Today, McCain 2008 Senior Foreign Policy Advisor Randy Scheunemann issued the following statement:


"The difference between John McCain and Barack Obama is that Barack Obama advocates an unconditional withdrawal that ignores the facts on the ground and the advice of our top military commanders. John McCain believes withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground. Prime Minister Maliki has repeatedly affirmed the same view, and did so again today. Timing is not as important as whether we leave with victory and honor, which is of no apparent concern to Barack Obama. The fundamental truth remains that Senator McCain was right about the surge and Senator Obama was wrong. We would not be in the position to discuss a responsible withdrawal today if Senator Obama's views had prevailed."


***UPDATE*** 7/20, 11:50pm ET A spokesman for al-Maliki has said the Prime Minister's comments were "mistranslated", but Der Spiegel is standing by its story: Maliki was quick to back away from an ou...
***UPDATE*** 7/20, 11:50pm ET A spokesman for al-Maliki has said the Prime Minister's comments were "mistranslated", but Der Spiegel is standing by its story: Maliki was quick to back away from an ou...
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- MrJoyboy I'm a Fan of MrJoyboy 28 fans permalink

Hey, we didn't go over there so that some backward Arabs could do whatever they wanted with their billions of barrels of oil. That's realpolitik, baby!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 07/21/2008
- MrJoyboy I'm a Fan of MrJoyboy 28 fans permalink

We have now joined the illustrious company of the Nazis and Russian Communists in the hallowed tradition of putting the screws to our installed puppets overseas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 07/21/2008
- sacrebleu I'm a Fan of sacrebleu 11 fans permalink
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Yessiree, it sure DOES sound like the White House threatened to set Maliki's strings on fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 07/21/2008

Condi made the call and you want fear she strikes in the hearts of those governing Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 07/21/2008
- JR49 I'm a Fan of JR49 4 fans permalink

I only fear our country is in peril because we still can have even worse president than GWB if McCain is elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 07/21/2008

The only difference between McCain and Bush is that Bush knows he's an idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 07/21/2008
- mimsnpips I'm a Fan of mimsnpips 10 fans permalink
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Agreed. We must be careful and not be overconfident. After all we've just suffered 8 years of a bumbling fool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/21/2008
- osage I'm a Fan of osage 291 fans permalink
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BUSH AND MCCAIN ARE SIMPLY LYING AGAIN!

The following is a direct translation from the Arabic of Mr. Maliki’s comments by The Times: “Obama’s remarks that — if he takes office — in 16 months he would withdraw the forces, we think that this period could increase or decrease a little, but that it could be suitable to end the presence of the forces in Iraq.”

He continued: “Who wants to exit in a quicker way has a better assessment of the situation in Iraq.”

Maliki agreed with Obama's timeframe by actually mentioning that it was "16 months". He even goes further by stating that the "better assessment of the situation in Iraq" is the one "who wants to exit in a quicker way". Obama is the one who "wants to exit in a quicker way". Exiting in a "quicker way" has never been something that John McCain or George W. Bush has advocated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 07/21/2008
- BhunduBoy I'm a Fan of BhunduBoy 5 fans permalink

Why they call it "tenure" when they mean foreign occupation?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 07/21/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 227 fans permalink
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They had to repurpose the meaning of the words he said.

For the good of all, you see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 07/21/2008

Now the truth is happening before the world; foreign press, our greatest ally. Obama is bringing victory home for our nation. After this trip, we will all be watching the clock along with the Bushes -- in the meantime, McCain should find a hobby and save himself more embarrassment. This crop of RepublicKKKins are NOT the conservative party Goldwater and Buckley heralded. The Rovian Bandits were pirated in. Now that we are waking up as a nation; all ages, sizes, races, 'religions' and non-religions, et al, I think some nice prison sentences should be made ready for some of these current 'heads of state."

Condi's act is an outrage-no matter whose puppet she is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 07/21/2008
- skibum49 I'm a Fan of skibum49 3 fans permalink

Ok I'm confused by your headline. The headline says "audio recording shows clear affinity for Obama position" but I dont see any reference in the text to an audio recording. That would seem to clear up this whole controversy (although I really dont see what the controversy is).

Where was the supposed mistranslation. I can assure you that after reading the statements made by al-Maliki in the German edition of Der Spiegel and what was reported in their English online edition there was no mistranslation from German to English. That would suggest that the mistranslation if it occured was from Arabic to German (I assume that al-Maliki was speaking arabic through his translator although that had never actually been made clear by Spiegel). If Der Spiegel has the original audio tapes of his responses in Arabic then why not release them and let independent Arabic speakers verify the translation. Seems really simple to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 07/21/2008
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McCain and Boosh want us to stay in Iraq until Baghdad Disney has its Grand Opening .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 07/21/2008
- catzoned I'm a Fan of catzoned 7 fans permalink

They are now designing a burka for Minnie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 07/21/2008
- soundfury I'm a Fan of soundfury 13 fans permalink

Very funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/21/2008

Wrong country, not Iraq!! The downfall of ALL Americans; absolute oppressive ignorance of the world around them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 07/21/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 317 fans permalink
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Al Maliki listened to his master's voice...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 07/21/2008
- soundfury I'm a Fan of soundfury 13 fans permalink

I'm your puppet. Just pull my strings and feed my bank account.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 07/21/2008

or just dump it in the toilet...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaVPdxJe0Ps

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/21/2008
- soundfury I'm a Fan of soundfury 13 fans permalink

"Hello, Maliki?"

Yes, George, how are you?

"Not too happy. Listen Maliki, I don't think you're understanding why you're getting those millions from us. Stop agreeing with the Democratic candidate or the faucet will be shut."

Er, sorry George. I understand. Don't worry this statement will be the last.

Maybe not the exact words, but a conversation like this one is not inconceivable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 07/21/2008
- AnnieinOR I'm a Fan of AnnieinOR 24 fans permalink

good one!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 07/21/2008
- HansB I'm a Fan of HansB 17 fans permalink

In a kinder light, the embassy may simply have pointed out that under rules of international politeness, leaders of country A generally refrain from endorsing candidates in country B. If Maliki feels that US troops should leave within a few years, he can say so, but doing so at the precise moment of Obama's trip does sound like interference in another country's elections.

That being said, I personally feel that this election concerns the whole world (and especially Iraq) so much that the ordinary rules of non-interference don't necessarily apply. Perhaps Maliki feels the same way and tries to find an awkward balance between expressing Iraqis' sentiment and staying out of US elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 07/21/2008
- HBeachbum I'm a Fan of HBeachbum 11 fans permalink

To an idiot, maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 07/21/2008
- BhunduBoy I'm a Fan of BhunduBoy 5 fans permalink

Maliki following orders from Bush. It make complete sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 07/21/2008
- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 82 fans permalink
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Can't wait for the Rethugs to accuse Obama of interfering with Booo$hie's governance (or bogus misguided facsimilie really) until they get reminded of Ronnie Raygun's campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 07/21/2008

Has there been a Ha-rry ( we lost the w@r in Ir@q) Reid sighting lately?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 PM on 07/21/2008

Didn't think anybody here wanted to touch that one!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 07/21/2008
- 11907281 I'm a Fan of 11907281 14 fans permalink
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It wasn't a question, it was a glib statement. next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 PM on 07/21/2008

Hey McCain, Obama was RIGHT about the war in the first place which means you were WRONG all along, surge or no surge!

McCain's going down, down, down the toilet!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 07/21/2008

Just like our budget. Watch Cheney flush it here...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaVPdxJe0Ps

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 07/21/2008
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Get the plunger ready 'cause you know that badboy is going to clog up the plumbing.

He doesn't look like a floater

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 07/21/2008
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