Obama Visits Afghanistan To Tour War Zone

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FISNIK ABRASHI | July 19, 2008 11:17 PM EST | AP

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In this photo released Saturday, July 19, 2008, by the the U.S. Army, Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shakes hands with service members at Camp Arifjan, Kuwait, Friday, July 18, 2008, during a Congressional Delegation visit. (AP Photo/U.S. Army, Jarod Perkioniemi)

KABUL, Afghanistan — Barack Obama visited Saturday with U.S. troops and Afghan officials in this war-weary nation, which is the focal point of his proposed strategy for dealing with threats to the U.S. if elected president.

While officially a part of a congressional delegation on a fact-finding tour expected to take him to Iraq, Obama was traveling Saturday amid the publicity and scrutiny accorded a likely Democratic nominee for president rather than a senator from Illinois. Security was tight and media access to Obama was limited by his campaign, and his itinerary in the war zones was a closely guarded secret.

Obama, dressed in light khaki colored trousers and a checkered shirt with his sleeves rolled up, and others in the delegation received a briefing inside the U.S. base in Jalalabad from the Afghan provincial governor of Nangarhar, Gul Agha Sherzai, a no-nonsense, bullish former warlord.

"Obama promised us that if he becomes a president in the future, he will support and help Afghanistan not only in its security sector but also in reconstruction, development and economic sector," Sherzai told The Associated Press.

The area where the meeting took place is not far from where Osama bin Laden escaped U.S. troops in 2001 after his al-Qaida terrorist group led the attacks on Sept. 11. With the ousted Taliban regime resurgent and given the al-Qaida goal of terrorizing the U.S., Obama has argued that the war in Afghanistan deserves more attention as well as more troops.

Obama's first overseas tour since securing the Democratic nomination _ he is scheduled to travel to Europe through next week _ could be key to honing his foreign policy strategy with less than four months before the election. His rival for the presidency, Republican Sen. John McCain, has criticized Obama for not spending more time in the region and for developing a policy without more firsthand knowledge.

In that vein, Obama was expected to meet with Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Sunday.

Traveling with Obama were Sens. Chuck Hagel, a Nebraska Republican, and Jack Reed, a Democrat from Rhode Island. Both military veterans, the senators have been mentioned as potential Obama vice presidential running mates, although Reed has said he's not interested in the job and Hagel would be an unlikely cross-party choice.

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At the start of their Afghan trip, the delegation met with top military leaders and troops at Bagram Air Field, the main U.S. military base north of the capital, before going to Jalalabad Air Field in Nangarhar province.

Before departing the U.S., Obama said he wanted to see "the situation on the ground."

"I want to, obviously, talk to the commanders and get a sense both in Afghanistan and in Baghdad of, you know, what the most, their biggest concerns are, and I want to thank our troops for the heroic work that they've been doing," he said.

A lack of time in the region has not stopped Obama from proposing significant changes to the war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Obama advocates ending the U.S. combat role in Iraq by withdrawing troops at the rate of one to two combat brigades a month. He supports increasing the military commitment to Afghanistan, where the Taliban-led insurgency is at its strongest in seven years.

In an interview with German magazine Der Spiegel released Saturday, Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki called Obama's suggestion of 16 months "the right timeframe for a withdrawal" and said U.S. troops should leave Iraq "as soon as possible." His statement was a sharp contrast to Bush administration policy, supported by McCain, opposing a set timetable for withdrawal.

U.S. military officials say the number of attacks in eastern Afghanistan, where most of the U.S. forces in the country operate, has gone up by 40 percent so far in 2008, compared to the same period in 2007.

The top U.S. commander in Iraq said Saturday that after intense U.S. assaults there, al-Qaida may be considering shifting focus to its original home base in Afghanistan, where American casualties are running higher than in Iraq.

"We do think that there is some assessment ongoing as to the continued viability of al-Qaida's fight in Iraq," Gen. David Petraeus told The Associated Press in an interview in Baghdad.

Obama has expressed frustration with Afghanistan's neighbor Pakistan's efforts to go after militants in its territory. He recently said that "If Pakistan cannot or will not act, we will take out high-level terrorist targets like bin Laden if we have them in our sights."

That stance may strike a chord with Karzai, who has directly accused Pakistan's intelligence service of supporting the Taliban insurgency plotting bombings and other attacks in Afghanistan _ claims that Pakistan, a key U.S. ally in its war on terror, flatly denies.

But Obama has also chided Karzai and his government, saying it had "not gotten out of the bunker" and helped to organize the country or its political and security institutions.

Violence is spiraling in Afghanistan, although foreign troops numbers are at their highest since the invasion: about 60,000 in all, including 36,000 Americans. They are bolstered by a steadily growing number of Western-trained Afghan army soldiers.

Obama has proposed sending two more combat brigades _ about 7,000 troops _ to Afghanistan. McCain is also advocating sending more forces to the war-battered country.

As a reminder of the challenges in Afghanistan, authorities reported Saturday that a roadside bomb killed four policemen in the volatile south where the Taliban insurgency is centered. A NATO soldier also was reported killed.

Few citizens in impoverished Afghanistan were aware of Obama's unannounced visit, and few have been following the U.S. presidential race, being too busy eking out an existence amid soaring violence and with limited access to news media.

But some interviewed Saturday said they would welcome an Obama presidency if he could help their country end the fighting, corruption and poverty that have crippled it for so long.

"Obama is a good person," said Abdul Basir, 40, a former army officer. "During his campaign I heard he was saying that if I become president I will withdraw the U.S. troops from Iraq and bring them to Afghanistan and I will attack on the terror center on other side of border (in Pakistan). It is very important and I appreciated that."

En route to Afghanistan, Obama stopped Friday at Camp Arifjan, the main U.S. military base in Kuwait and a major gateway for U.S. soldiers moving into and out of Iraq.

In video released Saturday by the military, Obama said the troops needed the support of Congress as well as the public and that it was critical that "we also have a strategy and a mission that allows you to do your jobs well but is also going to serve the larger strategic interests of the United States."

Obama played basketball with some troops and joked to those watching, "You came out here because you wanted to see me get beat by your fellow soldiers."

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Associated Press writers Amir Shah and Nahal Toosi in Kabul, Diana Elias in Kuwait City, and Glen Johnson in Washington contributed to this report.

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KABUL, Afghanistan — Barack Obama visited Saturday with U.S. troops and Afghan officials in this war-weary nation, which is the focal point of his proposed strategy for dealing with threats to t...
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Can one of you liberals explain to me why O wants to escalate the war in afghanistan, what have the people of that country ever done to us. I know you liberals have always wanted a war with afghanistan but I do not understand why, so tell me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/19/2008

"You liberals"

Sure sign of an isolated, poorly educated, angry, bitter Republican male.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/19/2008

Why are so many of his type so poorly informed and even more poorly educated?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 07/19/2008
- teron678 I'm a Fan of teron678 135 fans permalink
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Is this a rhetorical question????

What did Iraq to do us???

BTW are you a young neo-con?? ... u ask some really immature/dumb questions ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 07/19/2008

Braddie is a self-conscious person with much about which to be self-conscious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 07/19/2008
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Remember AlQaeda? Bin Laden? The terrorists who attacked us on 9/11? The ones BUSH forgot to eliminate or capture? Well, they're in Afghanistan, were they've always been.
Does that answer your question?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 07/19/2008

They harbored the turrists who hit us on 9/11...perhaps you have forgotten that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 07/19/2008

the terrorists who hit us on 9/11 died on 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 07/19/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 354 fans permalink
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Brat: I figured you out. You really, really like O. You are just pretending. That's OK, we understand from Neo to Dem, you feel shy. Don't be, its OK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 PM on 07/19/2008
- BabsfromKS I'm a Fan of BabsfromKS 14 fans permalink
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According to The Atlan tic -
a prominent Rethug strategist who occasionally provides advice to the MaGoo campaign said, simply, "We're f#$%d."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/19/2008
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That's it in a nutshell!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 07/19/2008
- jimdog1954 I'm a Fan of jimdog1954 8 fans permalink
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He apparently used the past-tense verb, meaning the act has been completed. No, Sir, not by any stretch (pun intended). He should have use the present-continuous verb. We are just getting started. Pass the KY, please...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 07/19/2008

any one notice Obama is runnin' our Foreign policy right now and he is not even President yet, truly amazing.
Meanwhile McCain is whining about "the surge the surge, Senator Obama was against the surge" but they always forget to mention that he was against the War too, for which there would not have been any need for a " surge".

I'm stilling waiting for McCain and his cronies to tell me their version of "winning the War"?
besides the fact that Bush claimed victory about 4 years back on a big Air Craft carrier, is McCain looking to say we won twice?...lol

Ok we'll give it to McCain he can have the points for the surge but what is the end game??

Like Obama said the surge is a tactical Victory not an overall strategy, catch up to the game McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 07/19/2008

Regarding pipelines in Afghanistan:
If the the country and the people of Afghanistan benefit generously from any profits from the project, then all well and good. If US energy companies want to monopolize and control it, pay the laborers beans, etc. then it is a bigger farce than Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 07/19/2008
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Good point. Never underestimate blind greed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 07/19/2008

I hate to be the one to inform you but the whole Eyerack/Afghanistan thing is and always has been about oil and pipelines and using American and coalition military personnel as security forces for Unocal,Exxon. BP etc. We are all paying for the oil industry to rob us and the people of the ME.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 07/19/2008
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I would add that when the Taliban government went with a South American Oil company that was when Exxon and the like, started in on a international campaign to tar and feather the Taliban government. Bring up female human rights violations and the lot. The Taliban was never an issue until the U S oil companies were given the finger, then 9/11, Bin Laden, Al Queda etc. Iraq was just thrown in for good measure to make sure the pipeline went through Iraq. There is a reason why Mal iki gave Exxon and the lot the finger when they wanted to take over Iraqi oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/19/2008

I love Barack Hussein Obama! I love our troops! Did you see the broad smiles on those young faces? Wow! I love you Barack!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 07/19/2008
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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Looks like Mc.Cain is going to have to change his Iraq position -- again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 07/19/2008
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Along with his d-ia-pers....again!

Alright, even I admit that was mean of me to say. I just can't help myself!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 07/19/2008
- aztecdiva I'm a Fan of aztecdiva 5 fans permalink
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And the direction of his comb over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/19/2008

After all of todays "good news and little surprises," I would think they really do need changing!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 PM on 07/19/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

G.W.Bu$h says that he understands "people are getting tired" of this "war" ... does he realize that that's not all people are getting ... PEOPLE ARE GETTING DEAD, ah, Ge$rge!!

After 7 yrs of whatever will be will be .... for OIL .... you say WHAT!??? You don't have a magic wand .. that's not what he said in 2000 or in 2004 ... what he said was "no nation building," "dead or alive," "axis of evil," "America I hear you" who's zooming who!!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 07/19/2008
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From Marc Ambinder's site

(Via e-mail, a prominent Republican strategist who occasionally provides advice to the McCain campaign said, simply, "We're ****ed." No response yet from the McCain campaign, although here's what McCain said the last time Maliki mentioned withdrawal: "Since we are succeeding, then I am convinced, as I have said before, we can withdraw and withdraw with honor, not according to a set timetable. And I’m confident that is what Prime Minister Maliki is talking about, since he has told me that for many meetings we’'ve had."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 07/19/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

Mailiki is a stooge for Iran. TheHomes will give Iraq to Iran just like Carter conceeded Iran to the Mullahs. A real profile in courage that will add 1-3 dollars/gallon next year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 07/19/2008
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Hmmmm, let's see, who was it that invaded Iraq (a country controlled by the Sunni's) and proceeded to defeat their power, and prop up Maliki, thus empowering Iran.

Hmmmmm, that's a difficult one. It might require learning to read a newspaper.

Remind me again, what the cost per gallon was when President Gump took office?

Mission Accomplished!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 07/19/2008
- sf94127 I'm a Fan of sf94127 5 fans permalink

so you would prefer Saddam Hussein?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 07/19/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 354 fans permalink
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And your heros are stooges for big oil. The went into their little adventure to get it, and are coming back empty handed.. Repugs are not nothing but a failure

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 07/19/2008
- Eoin45 I'm a Fan of Eoin45 44 fans permalink

Yeah and who facilitated all of that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 07/19/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 318 fans permalink

Many thanks sf. We are all on your team rooting for O bama. You're the best Dem in the room. Lovin' ya

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 07/19/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

Wait a minute -- you mean Karzai the president of Afganistan?
Karzai IS a stooge for the OIL companies!
He was (and is, I guess) a CEO with US oil companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 07/19/2008
- markie1111 I'm a Fan of markie1111 2 fans permalink

let's see. the year is two thousand eleven, when are the 75,000 US tropps in Afghanistan coming home???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 07/19/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 55 fans permalink
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they would be home now if we had fought the right war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 07/19/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

There should have been no war! The US bombed the place to pieces. Special forces could have captured Bin Laden, and others. But the 911 attackers were not Afgani's, and were supported by Saudi Businessmen and were ALL from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
This war is not healthy for children and other living things.

US out of Afganistan!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 07/19/2008
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It always important to keep things in perspective lest they get completely out of hand. One thing is that we will have a shared burden in Afghanistan with an international force who actually support what we are doing. That being said, there really is not good win win situation available thanks to the wasted opportunity lost b/c president Gump was drooling over Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 07/19/2008
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Hey, all those wanting to stay in Iraq and saying it's so great, I've got a great idea. Monday morning stop by the recruiters office of any local military branch and go ahead and sign up. Their giving lots of waivers for criminal records and age doesn't seem to be a problem any longer either. So, go ahead, will be waiting for you to get back after your first deployment and if you make it back, we'll see what your attitude is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 07/19/2008
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Also, they've lowered the IQ standards significantly, so even they could get in!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 07/19/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 318 fans permalink

Even Brad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 07/19/2008

How low is low?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 07/19/2008

Here's a joke:

Q:Why won't the right-wingers pull out of Iraq?

A: Pulling out is too much like birth control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 07/19/2008

If only Poppy had pulled out 60+ years ago...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 07/19/2008
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LOL!

Ah, if only Iraq were a men's restroom, then they might be willing to consider taking a wider stance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 07/19/2008
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"To tour war zone." I was wondering why. Thanks for clearing that up. Glad it has nothing to do with politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/19/2008
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A politician engaging in, gasp! politics! No!

Also, there is no santa clause and the tooth fairy is doing p-orn on the side.

Reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 07/19/2008
- joeyp404 I'm a Fan of joeyp404 4 fans permalink
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But. But. That's not what he said.

And does that mean I can expect more than a quarter under my pillow?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 07/19/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 318 fans permalink

Thanks Joey. I love O bama too. Your support is immeasurable. Go Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 PM on 07/19/2008
- abouttime I'm a Fan of abouttime 24 fans permalink

Politics has everything to do with ending useless wars!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 07/19/2008

"HRC2012"

Sounds like a PUMA dress size.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 07/19/2008

Sorry, wrong thread.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/19/2008
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That's ok - it was funny! But has she ever worn a dress?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 07/19/2008
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LOL, funny anyway

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 07/19/2008

Now we know the Bush Administration's exit strategy from Iraq:
Leave the exit to the next administration after Bush and Company leaves the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 07/19/2008
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