Top Clinton Backers Tell Donors: Stop Whining

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First Posted: 07-19-08 04:30 PM   |   Updated: 07-27-08 05:12 AM

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In a sign that senior Democratic officials remain deeply concerned that post-primary bitterness could imperil Barack Obama's chances, two top Democratic officials have emailed a sharply-worded letter to major donors and other leading Dems confessing "fatigue and irritation" at those withholding full support from Obama and demanding that they get behind him "without conditions or demands."

"I supported Hillary Clinton and am proud and pleased that I did," reads the email, which was written by Donald Fowler, a former DNC chair and DNC member-at-large who was one of Hillary's most prominent supporters. Alice Germond, the Secretary of the DNC, is also a signatory.

"But she lost," continues the email, which was sent our way by a source. Barack Obama won. It's over."

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In a sign that senior Democratic officials remain deeply concerned that post-primary bitterness could imperil Barack Obama's chances, two top Democratic officials have emailed a sharply-worded letter ...
In a sign that senior Democratic officials remain deeply concerned that post-primary bitterness could imperil Barack Obama's chances, two top Democratic officials have emailed a sharply-worded letter ...
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So HRC raised $2.7 million in June. That means each of her 18 million devoted subjects dug deep into the sofa cushions and sent her 15 CENTS each. Now THAT'S loyalty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 07/21/2008
- jcwtts1 I'm a Fan of jcwtts1 146 fans permalink
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Has anyone seen this SoDak decision... it is in the living section.... before a doctor can perform an abortion he must read a script to the mother about the unique life growing and living inside her. Seriously, and these Hilbots want to undermine Obama so that what, two more justices get on the court who are pro life and shift the balance so far out of wack that women are forced to go to back alley's again? grow up hillbots and get a freakin grip.

J

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 07/20/2008

Can't wait til the convention so we can see video of whining PUMA's getting tasered! SWEET!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 07/20/2008

Harriet Christian and Will Bower tased, maced, and beaten with nightsticks. Coming soon on pay-per-view! All proceeds to Mark Penn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 07/21/2008
- gintheb I'm a Fan of gintheb 8 fans permalink

Here we go again!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 07/20/2008
- gintheb I'm a Fan of gintheb 8 fans permalink

So how does one get off Huffpo's s#*t list? I've read amny posts that contain more offensive language and are more personallty vitriolic than anything I've tried to post recently. Am I expected to kiss somebody's @$$ to express my views?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 07/20/2008
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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"It is time to act in a mature and resourceful fashion."

Yeah, like that's gonna happen from the Hillonites. Good luck Don and Alice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 07/20/2008

Q: Why did Obama cross the road?

A: To get to the right of John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 07/20/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

It's hard to imagine how HRC lost with mental giants like you backing her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 07/20/2008

Hard to imagine how you think you can win friends and influence people when you are such a flaming A**hole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 07/20/2008
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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Obama crossed the road to get to the CORRECT side in his position of national events that will correct the nasty s**t the repugs have orchestrated for the last 7.5 years.

How's North Carolina...hear there's a tidal wave coming. Get ready.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 07/20/2008

Q: Why did ElliotNC cross the road?

A: To avoid an approaching black man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 07/21/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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Wow, all 30 of these losers are sure getting a lot of press.

And what does the Queen herself have to say? NOTHING. As you would expect.

I am so impressed with how she is working her heart out for the presumptive nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 07/20/2008

Actually, it's more like 30 PERCENT (of 18 million voters). Do the math.

Insulting them is not going to bring them around. They will not be beaten into submission.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 07/20/2008
- WFV I'm a Fan of WFV 13 fans permalink
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That 30% figure is out of date and dwindling by the day, and threatening the winner is not really helpful either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 07/20/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

"Do the math?" - that's funny coming from someone who supported a campaign that couldn't even figure out CA wasn't winner take all, and could do the basic algebra and statistics necessary to realize the primary was mathematically over following Super Tuesday.

I've always found it hilarious that for months in late 2007, Clinton repeatedly said the primary would be over (with her victory, of course) as of Super Tuesday. So, I guess she was expecting every other candidate to bow down to her, and subsequently bow out of the primary, as of Super Tuesday, but when it was she who lost Super Tuesday, she thought that she was entitled to run until the bitter end, under the ridiculous pretext to supposedly count every last vote on her mathematically non-existent "path to the nomination", when had the ST results been different she would have expected everyone else to exit stage left as quickly as the could. Talk about a hypocrite, and talk about not being able to do, or accept, the cold hard math.

THIS argument is why this e-mail was necessary. She DID lose. It IS over. Either support the Party, or leave, but quit complaining about something that has long been settled.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 07/20/2008
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You speak for all 18 million? Maybe YOU should run for president. Get a grip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 07/20/2008
- BigMike75 I'm a Fan of BigMike75 11 fans permalink

Talk about beating a dead horse. You dissaffected Hillary supporters that still cry your consipracy theories, that still hold out hope for some far fetched SD revolt that will see your candidate rise from the ashes like the Phoenix, are as lame as lame can be. Your numbers are dwindling by the week, but you all still think that you hold some important key in your collective hands that will somehow prevent Senator Obama from winning in November. You all are somehow blessed with clairvoyant powers beyond imagination, that allow you to speak for 18 million other voters...most of you truly need Xanax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 07/21/2008
- beboy I'm a Fan of beboy 3 fans permalink

Leave the whining to the professionals-the Obamas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 07/20/2008
- amst I'm a Fan of amst 9 fans permalink

Nice try Leboh, but O supporters don't need to whine.......we won, remember? Get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 07/20/2008

Nice set of rules you won by. Reminds me of the "Selected" president of 2000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 07/20/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 315 fans permalink
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Considering the fact that they beat Hi11ary, what makes you think that they're whining?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 07/20/2008
- beboy I'm a Fan of beboy 3 fans permalink

But now "they" raised the bar again and expect us to beat some cranky old white guy. Sob, sob, sob...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 07/20/2008

Winning is for losers, don't cha know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 07/20/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

I think that you're confusing WHINING with WINNING. It's OK, we know some of you from HRC's camp are very slow studies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/20/2008

Somebody needs to tell Donald Fowler to eff off. "Sharply-worded" indeed.

The DNC doesn't own our votes. Hillary doesn't own our votes. And we won't be voting for Obama no matter what they "demand."

Frankly, they have a lot of nerve demanding anything.

Who the heck do they think they are?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 07/20/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 315 fans permalink
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"Who the heck do they think they are?"
__________­__________­__________­__________­__

They are people who care enough about the country to get past their personal despondence over the defeat of their candidate, and who will vote for what's good for the country, rather than cut off their nose to spite their face.

What a shame that you're putting your bitter, hurt feelings above the good of your country.

Vote for McCrackers, or N-ader, or Mc-Kinney, or write-in Hi11ary, or don't vote at all.

Just understand that whichever you choose, helps Repubs.
Something for which you can hang your head for the rest of your life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/20/2008

It's about time somebody got in their faces - they're acting like a bunch of losers, and have become the laughing stock of the republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 07/20/2008
- AllenD I'm a Fan of AllenD 36 fans permalink
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Waaaaaaaaa, but we were entitled, it was our turn . What a bunch of sore losers. Maybe all you PUMA;s should form a co-op so you can get discount rates on crying towels, tissues and diapers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 07/20/2008
- ltfcrazy I'm a Fan of ltfcrazy 8 fans permalink

Are PUMA's like cougars?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 07/20/2008

I think "puma" stands for "like cougars my ass".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 AM on 07/20/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

No, cougars get laid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/20/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 148 fans permalink

No, but they are catty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 07/20/2008

Waaaaaaa, why is O silent about Bush's abortion proposal? Cause he's off campaigning Europe which is far more important.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 07/20/2008
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Yeah sore losers you said it. I feel sorry for the next woman running for President because Clinton has given the impression that if a woman doesn't win then it was because of facts not related to her own character (lies about snipper-fire, kitchen sink tactics).

Clinton could have "nipped this in the bud" long ago but chose not too fit's in with the Hillary that I've come to see but would have never believed a year ago. Just hearing her voice grates on me now *shudders*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 AM on 07/20/2008
- seanosul I'm a Fan of seanosul 2 fans permalink

Stop giving these bitter bunch of bigots any publicity. Wow so they found one amongst them who can set up some blog sites. They are being given added credibility by involving themselves with an ex CIA Republican ooh bigger wow, so as Democrats they are now involved with someone who was employed to disrupt elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 07/20/2008

Your assumption that Democrats who refuse to vote for Obama are bigots is typical of Obama's use of the race card to hijack the campaign.

Tell us, what about all the Obama supporters who swore they wouldn't vote the Democratic ticket if Clinton is on it? Are they bigots too?

Or are they just a bunch of hypocrites.

Bossy hypocrites, at that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 07/20/2008
- WWJD2 I'm a Fan of WWJD2 2 fans permalink

I'm too smart to fall in line to vote for an unqualified candidate--Obama. My vote is to support a candidate who is best for the country; not blindly vote for the Democratic candidate. In the past 4 elections, the Democrats fielded the best candidates­--Clinton, Clinton, Gore, Kerry. It is so frustrating that the Dems are about to field an unqualified candidate-Obama who has no accomplishments to speak of. Some of us are smarter-- and I think that's the essence of PUMA -- than to vote for another unqualified candidate who did not receive the majority of the primary votes. My God, Obama looks and sounds more like Bush everyday.
Both of them are so insecure that they always need the huge photo op.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 07/20/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

"I'm too smart.........
..............
..............some of us are smarter" - WWJD2

God, it literally took me minutes to pull myself off of the floor from laughing at this. If you don't think Obama's tens upon tens of millions of supporters and contributors are any threat to your agenda or to McCain, why would anyone care about PUMA? I mean, has PUMA even broken the1,000 member count yet? Haven't they only raised about $100K? Is there something I'm missing - are PUMA votes worth 10,000 votes apiece or something?

$100K(PUMA­)/$52M(Oba­ma in June) = 0.0019. Oh my God, you're right!...how ever will we surviving without PUMA?

WOW! - try not to let all of that power go to your empty head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 07/20/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

The sort of people attracted to PUMA are professional victims. Whining is just what they do.

Whiners without a cause. At last, they've found a cause and they cannot believe their luck.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 07/19/2008

I hope you do not speak to your loved ones like this. It is extremely abusive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 07/20/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 216 fans permalink
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Some people tend to confuse truth, fact, or mere opinion---which, the last time I checked, we were entitled to--- with abusiveness.

There is a vast difference between a strongly-worded statement, and abuse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 07/20/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

Stop whining.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 07/20/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

orangepetal, just ignore olivia. If you check her profile you'll see that she is always offensive and really rarely has anything to say but insults to other posters. My guess is that in real life she is very meek and mild, afraid to open her mouth. Anonymity gives her strength and lets her have an outlet by being abusive and bullying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 07/20/2008
- biglith I'm a Fan of biglith 13 fans permalink

We don't love you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 07/20/2008
- Krikkit I'm a Fan of Krikkit 14 fans permalink

Except they do have a cause. Their cause is to SHOW YOU!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 07/20/2008
- Cynth I'm a Fan of Cynth 13 fans permalink

I think you have a good point. Whether they realize it or not, it seems that the issue has moved beyond supporting Clinton to just engaging in a p*ssing contest. Otherwise, they would follow Clinton's lead and support Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 07/20/2008
- biglith I'm a Fan of biglith 13 fans permalink

They need to get laid once in a while.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 07/20/2008
- WWJD2 I'm a Fan of WWJD2 2 fans permalink

I just mailed back Barry's campaign's request for a donation. Amount donated $0.
PUMA in 08 ! The movement is growing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 07/19/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

Please, please, please start your own political party. It would be so cute: donkeys, elephants, and pumas.

All 20 of you should get together and make this happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 07/20/2008

Alot of zeros missing on that estimate.
Mc Cain is getting 50% of Hillary cash, oh, no, naughty Hillary, poor, poor DNC.
Bet you he will get 50% of the votes, stupid, stupid DNC, well they stiill have their healthcare, why should they care. After all it is sooooo Historic........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 07/20/2008

We don't need a party, we are democrats voting for Mc Cain, I can repeat it if you like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 07/20/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

The old Republican "love it or leave it" theory from the 70's? Interesting take for Democrats in 2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 07/20/2008
- pupbayer I'm a Fan of pupbayer 23 fans permalink

I contacted the DNC and asked to be taken off mailing lists since I'm no longer a Democrat. I wish I hadn't. I could have sent notes with my thoughts back in the postage paid envelopes and they would have had to pay for them. Oh, well....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 07/20/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

The first time you did that, you'd be taken off the mailing list. So all you'd end sticking it to them for all of 41 cents. Wow, that'll show them. But I guess when you're a PUMA, with all of 1,000 members and $100K, you have to think small. Still, careful there, don't hurt yourself with all of your big ideas..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 07/20/2008
- biglith I'm a Fan of biglith 13 fans permalink

Any one who calls our next president Barry shows great disrespect for our nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 07/20/2008
- truthskr I'm a Fan of truthskr 9 fans permalink

That's OK. Your post moved me to contribute another $500 to Obama - put in $250 for me and $250 for "WWJD2" - so congratulations - there's now $250 in the campaign on your behalf! See, that's the difference between Obama supporters and yourself, we have money and we let it talk. You only have your talk, and everytime you post something like this, we all make another monetary vote in support of Obama.

Something tells me that "$0" is also what you contributed to HRC, along with so many of her other supposed supporters - because how can you claim 18M supporters, yet bring in so much less money than your competitor, especially when you're the one with all of the corporate big-money funders and bundlers? Maybe if you'd opened your wallet for HRC as much as you open your mouth, or make stupid prove-nothing gestures such as trolling Obama's site to contribute your 0 PUMA dollars, you'd be able to be on here bragging about your candidate instead of acting like a 5 year old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 07/20/2008
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