Bush 41 Adviser Scowcroft Says He'd Tell Israel To "Calm Down" On Iran Strike

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First Posted: 07-22-08 10:39 PM   |   Updated: 07-30-08 05:12 AM

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Brent Scowcroft doesn't think the biggest problem with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is, well, Iran getting a nuclear weapon.

"To me, whether or not Iran itself has [nuclear weapons] is a less important question than what it will do to proliferation around the world," the former national security adviser to President George H.W. Bush said at a Tuesday event in Washington D.C., adding: "I think we're standing on the brink of another forward surge in nuclear proliferation. ... Don't talk about 'do we bomb them now or after they get to weapons.' That's not the point. The point is how can we dissuade Tehran from its current course of action."

That remark, which came during a panel sponsored by the Center for Security and International Studies, would seem to put Scowcroft at odds with John McCain, for whom he provided advice on national security matters in the past. The Arizona Republican is typically more interested in focusing on the drastic consequences of an Iranian bomb in and of itself, such as when he told this year's AIPAC convention that "an Iranian nuclear bomb would pose an existential threat to the people of Israel."

Appearing with Scowcroft on Tuesday was another former national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who now provides advice to Barack Obama's presidential campaign. Despite the partisan divide, however, both veterans of the foreign policy scene agreed they would advise Israel not to launch any preemptive strike against Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program. In response to a question from CBS newsman Bob Schieffer, Scowcroft pointedly said he would instruct Tel Aviv to "calm down." Brzezinski followed on Scowcroft's heels, saying he would tell Israel: "Don't do it."

Scowcroft's moderate-sounding comments are not a huge surprise from an architect of the realist project that used to hold sway within the Republican foreign policy community. But on one further point, the conservative eminence sounded perhaps closer to Obama than McCain. Approached after the event by the Huffington Post, Scowcroft said that the influence of Iranian militias in Iraq would not be one of his "benchmarks" on ending the war. For his part, McCain senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann suggested as much on a conference call earlier Tuesday, when he said: "If there's no resurgence of Al Qaeda, if there's no resurgence of Iranian-backed Shia militias ... Senator McCain would certainly look forward to further withdrawal based on those conditions."

In response, Scowcroft said: "I wouldn't use that as a benchmark. ... Iran would be crazy if it weren't trying to influence the situation in Iraq. That's one of the things eventually we need to talk about. ... I don't think we can stay long enough so that there's no Iranian influence. Because of their religion, for one thing. The Shia holy sites are in Iraq. Many of the Iraqi clergy spent decades in Iran during the Saddam period. So it's more complicated than that."

Given a previous instance of rhetorical overlap between Scowcroft and Obama, it's worth noting that the Illinois Democrat advanced a similarly "realist" analysis regarding Iran's influence in Iraq earlier this year, when he said: "We are not going to kill every Al Qaeda sympathizer, eliminate every trace of Iranian influence, or stand up a flawless democracy before we leave."

Brent Scowcroft doesn't think the biggest problem with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is, well, Iran getting a nuclear weapon. "To me, whether or not Iran itself has [nuclear weapons] is a less import...
Brent Scowcroft doesn't think the biggest problem with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is, well, Iran getting a nuclear weapon. "To me, whether or not Iran itself has [nuclear weapons] is a less import...
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Please speak LOUDER, Brent. Maybe your voice might get thru to the deaf-dumb-and-blind g-o-p!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 07/23/2008
- ofbbg I'm a Fan of ofbbg 2 fans permalink

I totally agree with Scowcroft. They should calm down - at least until the missiles are in the air!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 07/23/2008
- Harinama I'm a Fan of Harinama 11 fans permalink

let me say this clearly

THE PROSPECT OF AN INVASION OF IRAN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NUKES!

Iran created an oil bourse to sell oil in other currencies than the US dollar last year. Since the only thing keeping the US dollar from plummeting to oblivion is that all the major oil bourses in the world trade in it, and other countries stockpile US dollars for it, this is a huge threat to our currency. At this point, the house of cards is falling in, and maybe it's best to let it go..

THE PROSPECT OF AN INVASION OF IRAN IS BECAUSE OF OIL AND THE US DOLLAR, AND IRAN'S BOURSE IN OTHER CURRENCIES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 07/23/2008

This is good to hear some people who've been in Govt before try to make some sense instead of just rhetoric and saber rattling. Once a war starts getting out of it is no piece of cake, as it isn't in Iraq and they were only 18 million of Iraqis whereas Iran is 70 million + and a much bigger country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 07/23/2008
- awcbuddy8 I'm a Fan of awcbuddy8 8 fans permalink

Yeah, there's about 30 million Iraqis there, chief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 07/23/2008
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Raise a glass to common sense on both sides of the aisle. If not for fundamentalist extremists in the USA, their Muslim dopplegangers in Iran wouldn't be as prominent today. Likewise, our warmongers have emboldened theirs. When will those elected boobs listen to the career boobs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 07/23/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 193 fans permalink

Well, I'm not sure we should listen to this guy.

Wasn't he opposed to the Iraq invasion?

I guess that proves the worth of his analysis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 07/23/2008
- lthuedk 1 I'm a Fan of lthuedk 1 64 fans permalink
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Israel's violent minority should calm down and stop painting the entire country as war mongering. Preemption doesn't work. Occupation doesn't work. Palestinian cleansing doesn't work.

Retire Netanyahu.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 07/23/2008
- Fotios I'm a Fan of Fotios 20 fans permalink

Scowcroft also advised Bush and Cheney not to invade Iraq the first time, however I'm not sure what his position was in 2002/2003.

Either way, this shows the differences between the W./McCain/NeoCon perspective on foreign policy and the Conservative/old-school Republican perspective.

This is also why I believe that Obama is an agent of change even though he votes with the Democrats most of the time. The change people are looking for is a change from the Bush Republican mind-set.

Bush pulled the Republicans too far towards the fascist right and now the 06 and 08 elections are going to swing the political tide back towards the left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 07/23/2008
- GLaB I'm a Fan of GLaB 3 fans permalink

From MSNBC News Services:

""SDEROT, Israel - U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama said on Wednesday a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a "grave threat" to the world.

Obama told reporters during a visit to Israel that if elected, he would take "no options off the table" in dealing with the Iran issue and said tougher sanctions could be imposed.

"A nuclear Iran would pose a grave threat and the world must prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon," Obama told reporters after visiting the Israeli town of Sderot, which lies close to the border with the Hamas-run Gaza Strip.""

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25810989

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 07/23/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 07/23/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 58 fans permalink

I agree!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 07/23/2008

Don't you think it's a bit too late? He should have been impeached 7 years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 07/23/2008

I agree with him. Iran has talked some sh-t, but it's Israel who started the 'my missile goes farther than your missile' pissing contest this month. They need to STOP it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 07/23/2008

You should know that Israel doesn't play games as you suggest. After Iran's rocket and war-readiness display, Israel is letting Tehran know, in no uncertain terms, that they have the capability to strike back, and will if necessary.

Iran needs to sop enticing its people and the rest of the Arab world to "wipe Israel from the face of the earth." The Israelis are, and should be, very concerned because they know this isn't just rehetoric coming out of Tehran. Iran is not talking sh*t, as you put it. If Iran develops nuclear capabilities Israel will cease to exist. If Israel has knowledge that Tehran is close to this capability, they will stop it. This is not an "if," it's a when.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 07/23/2008
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

Now here's a Repug with common sense( the LEAST common of the senses ).
Somehow, Repugs like him are going to have to recapture their party from the current crowd that's running it if the party is to survive as a viable national party; the Fundamentalist Rednecks got their foot in when Nixon decided to implement his 'Southern Strategy' and it's been their party ever since.
Folks like Javits, Rockefeller, Case, Percy and Dirksen wouldn't recognize their party today; the Grand Old Party is no more, what a shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 07/23/2008
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I am less alarmed at what a reputed McCain advisor thinks Israel should or should not do and whether Israel would listen to Citizen McCain than I am by Professor Benny Morris's chilling op-ed last Friday in the New York Times. That some Israeli analysts and hawks are seriously pondering a last ditch conventional strike against Iran before the end of the Bush interregnum is scary.

Worse is the recognition that the Bushidos might try to enable Israel to carry out such a strike by refueling Israeli jets en route or allowing fighter plans to land in Iraq, refuel and continue on to bomb Natans and other suspected Iranian nuclear weapons sites. How much better could the Bushidos influence the November elections by provoking a Hezbollah (terrorist) response in the Middle East or elsewhere, emboldening Hamas to blitz Israel, or just guilt associating the U.S. with a dangerous new front in the war on terrorism?

Nuclear nightmare induced paranoia? Maybe. But, it ain't over till the voters vote, the Electoral College meets, and the Bushidos vacate. These are benchmarks still awaiting fulfillment. Will the new voter SURGE be enough to ensure that Washington meets democracy's benchmarks? Film at midnight!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 07/23/2008
- JJeff88 I'm a Fan of JJeff88 23 fans permalink

Keep an eye on what may emerge as a new McCain political strategy:

While Obama is abroad, he has to be very careful about the amount of input he offers about anything international.

Whereas McCain's advisors can lobb suggestions on international policy all day long from the peanut gallery. They don't have to be anywhere as careful not to pull punches.

The potential danger to Obama is that he and his people will be tempted to get caught up in a back and forth exchange with McCain's people so that he runs the risk of violating the "one President at a time" principle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 07/23/2008
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Had an Obama supporter said this, you can bet it would be the lead story for a week on all the network & cable news channels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 07/23/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 234 fans permalink

Not a week, months. And not reporting, villification.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 07/23/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

hd an obama supporter said this, the obamanites would have been tripping over each other, chiming in with 'Spot On!'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 07/23/2008
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