Bush 41 Adviser Scowcroft Says He'd Tell Israel To "Calm Down" On Iran Strike

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First Posted: 07-22-08 10:39 PM   |   Updated: 07-30-08 05:12 AM

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Brent Scowcroft doesn't think the biggest problem with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is, well, Iran getting a nuclear weapon.

"To me, whether or not Iran itself has [nuclear weapons] is a less important question than what it will do to proliferation around the world," the former national security adviser to President George H.W. Bush said at a Tuesday event in Washington D.C., adding: "I think we're standing on the brink of another forward surge in nuclear proliferation. ... Don't talk about 'do we bomb them now or after they get to weapons.' That's not the point. The point is how can we dissuade Tehran from its current course of action."

That remark, which came during a panel sponsored by the Center for Security and International Studies, would seem to put Scowcroft at odds with John McCain, for whom he provided advice on national security matters in the past. The Arizona Republican is typically more interested in focusing on the drastic consequences of an Iranian bomb in and of itself, such as when he told this year's AIPAC convention that "an Iranian nuclear bomb would pose an existential threat to the people of Israel."

Appearing with Scowcroft on Tuesday was another former national security adviser, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who now provides advice to Barack Obama's presidential campaign. Despite the partisan divide, however, both veterans of the foreign policy scene agreed they would advise Israel not to launch any preemptive strike against Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program. In response to a question from CBS newsman Bob Schieffer, Scowcroft pointedly said he would instruct Tel Aviv to "calm down." Brzezinski followed on Scowcroft's heels, saying he would tell Israel: "Don't do it."

Scowcroft's moderate-sounding comments are not a huge surprise from an architect of the realist project that used to hold sway within the Republican foreign policy community. But on one further point, the conservative eminence sounded perhaps closer to Obama than McCain. Approached after the event by the Huffington Post, Scowcroft said that the influence of Iranian militias in Iraq would not be one of his "benchmarks" on ending the war. For his part, McCain senior foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann suggested as much on a conference call earlier Tuesday, when he said: "If there's no resurgence of Al Qaeda, if there's no resurgence of Iranian-backed Shia militias ... Senator McCain would certainly look forward to further withdrawal based on those conditions."

In response, Scowcroft said: "I wouldn't use that as a benchmark. ... Iran would be crazy if it weren't trying to influence the situation in Iraq. That's one of the things eventually we need to talk about. ... I don't think we can stay long enough so that there's no Iranian influence. Because of their religion, for one thing. The Shia holy sites are in Iraq. Many of the Iraqi clergy spent decades in Iran during the Saddam period. So it's more complicated than that."

Given a previous instance of rhetorical overlap between Scowcroft and Obama, it's worth noting that the Illinois Democrat advanced a similarly "realist" analysis regarding Iran's influence in Iraq earlier this year, when he said: "We are not going to kill every Al Qaeda sympathizer, eliminate every trace of Iranian influence, or stand up a flawless democracy before we leave."

Brent Scowcroft doesn't think the biggest problem with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is, well, Iran getting a nuclear weapon. "To me, whether or not Iran itself has [nuclear weapons] is a less import...
Brent Scowcroft doesn't think the biggest problem with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is, well, Iran getting a nuclear weapon. "To me, whether or not Iran itself has [nuclear weapons] is a less import...
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Good advice by Scowcroft. Wasn't he one of the ones that opposed the Iraq War.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 07/23/2008
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That's correct. Scowcroft wanted to lose the war in Iraq. But isn't it McStain who wants to "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran?" Would that be before or after he wants to kill them with cigarettes? Perhaps Scowcroft needs to counsel his main squeeze.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 07/23/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Right.

With all the success we've had there, you think he'd be shy about offering more advice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 07/23/2008
- PADDYWHACK I'm a Fan of PADDYWHACK 6 fans permalink

I read this post and thought that there must be some sanity afoot in the world but then I realized that Cheney and the Neocons are still in charge of the arsenal,and all this is waffle.In the future we will look back on these times as the turning point in our history for better or worse.Most likely for the worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 07/23/2008

PADDYWHACK; Scowcroft is a politician therefor every thing he says is to be suspect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 07/23/2008
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Scowcroft is one of the few in the Bush Crime family that still maintains a reasonable approach to world politics.

But regrettably the crime family councilor was unable to convince W not to go to war with Iraq, so what kind of influence will he have on McCain, None.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 07/23/2008
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Why is Scowcroft wasting his time advising John McCain. Didn't he learn any lessons from the way his friend Colin Powell was ignored by Cheney/Bush and then hung out to dry? Fool you once, shame on them Brent, Fool you twice shame on you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 07/23/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 78 fans permalink
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Israel has always had a dangerous foreign policy if you study an unbiased history of Israel. Indeed, one might argue that it is precisely Israel's "them-against-us" foreign policy that has prompted the drive for nuclear weapons by Syria and Iran--not to mention the fact that Israel, herself, possesses nuclear weapons and would use them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 07/23/2008
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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Anyone who doubts this should read "The Iron Wall" by Avi Shlaim, an honest Israeli historian who catalogs all the ways Israeli leadership has avoided a peace deal with the Arabs, starting from the founders, because of Israel's wider territorial ambitions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 07/23/2008

McCain would be a disaster, Why can't we elect some one with brains a wisdom?
http://www.squidoo.com/double_speak

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 07/23/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Flawed political process.

ADD electorate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 07/23/2008

Israel has been preparing to attack Iran for 11 years, now. One hundred F-16i fighter/bombers, custom designed for this mission, and paid for by the American taxpayer, have been delivered to the IDF. They were conceived, and ordered, in 1997.

Israel is not endangered by the Arab bomb, but Israeli hegemony is. The Arab bomb rolls back the risks of conventional war to Israel's doorstep.

Iran is not a death cult. They accepted a peace agreement with Iraq, who was the aggressor [backed by the US] within days of the USS Vincennes' murder of 290 Iranians on the Airbus jet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 07/23/2008
- 43P04T34 I'm a Fan of 43P04T34 12 fans permalink

Jimmy Carter was right when he said there's no way Iran will ever attack Israel with a nuclear weapon. Israel would certainly destroy Iran if it did and that is why it will never happen. Plus, Iran has not violated any of its neighbors in hundreds of years.

Israel understands this but is pretending that it doesn't and that it is AFRAID of Iran. It's all just a smoke screen to obscure its real agenda.

So, what is Israel's pretension of fear of Iran really about? That is the real issue here, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 07/23/2008

read this which explains a lot

http://www.rense.com/general82/msm.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 07/23/2008

Finally a voice of reason. One has to wonder if W will complain to daddy Bush about one of his former staff members interfering with his desire to bomb Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 AM on 07/23/2008
- BrickSykes I'm a Fan of BrickSykes 40 fans permalink

Scowcroft's sage advice would be better directed to the Bush/Cheney White House. That is, if they were even interested in anyone's sage advice.

Brick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 AM on 07/23/2008

It looks like only Hagel and this guy refused to sell their soul to the neocon satan

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 07/23/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

Nobody is going to be able to stop Isreal if they think Iran is on the verge of developing a bomb.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 07/23/2008
- maddie0001 I'm a Fan of maddie0001 2 fans permalink

Can anybody stop America from paying for it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 07/23/2008
- arvay I'm a Fan of arvay 140 fans permalink
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Absolutely refreshing to hear the voices of intelligent understanding rather than the chickenhawk neocons of the Bush administration.

Scowcroft clearly understands the complexities of the region and the disastrous consequences on an attack on Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 07/23/2008
- BhunduBoy I'm a Fan of BhunduBoy 5 fans permalink

The US started the wars, and militarily supported the occupation of Palestine. If there is war with Iran, is only because the US refuses to stop its military aggression. It's up to the American people to vote the US government out of war by firing the warmonger politicians controlled by AIPAC and the military industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 07/23/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 119 fans permalink
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I don't think I've ever seen Brent Scowcroft, but he sounds like a very smart man, it's too bad that JMac doesn't seem to listen to him and follow his advice.

On the other hand, I have seen Zbigniew Brzezinski, and he is a brilliant man. Thank God he's on our side, and I am very proud of Senator Obama for seeking his advice and actually respecting his expertise on foreign policy issues. This is one of the reasons Obama is so successful, he listens, and learns. He is not too proud to say he needs help or advice on certain issues.

Barack Obama is going to be a brilliant President, one of immense integrity, and his legacy will be one of great honor, courage, and accomplishments.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 AM on 07/23/2008
- Oldtimer I'm a Fan of Oldtimer 19 fans permalink
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The Israel debate is a sham. Here is a country with nuclear deterrence already. A wise President after 9/11 would have made peace with Iran and guaranteed their security in exchange for wiping out
Iran's two enemies - the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. Using the world sentiment after 9/11 to
bring security to Iran and Israel together could have been historic. Powerful forces prevented ithis
golden opportunity. Very powerful forces. I now tune out all thing Middle East. I programmed my radio and television to block out all Middle East "news". It is truly a wonderful life in my Bedford Falls world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 AM on 07/23/2008
- metalpipe I'm a Fan of metalpipe 10 fans permalink
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This is very insightful. I think I must agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 07/23/2008
- Elliott32 I'm a Fan of Elliott32 7 fans permalink

This is not a good week for McCain. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 AM on 07/23/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

Other than winning the nomination, HAS there been a good week for Mc'Cain?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 07/23/2008
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