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MICHAEL LIEDTKE | July 28, 2008 06:45 PM EST | AP

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SAN FRANCISCO — Anna Patterson's last Internet search engine was so impressive that industry leader Google Inc. bought the technology in 2004 to upgrade its own system.

She believes her latest invention is even more valuable _ only this time it's not for sale.

Patterson instead intends to upstage Google, which she quit in 2006 to develop a more comprehensive and efficient way to scour the Internet.

The end result is Cuil, pronounced "cool." Backed by $33 million in venture capital, the search engine plans to begin processing requests for the first time Monday.

Cuil had kept a low profile while Patterson, her husband, Tom Costello, and two other former Google engineers _ Russell Power and Louis Monier _ searched for better ways to search.

Now, it's boasting time.

For starters, Cuil's search index spans 120 billion Web pages.

Patterson believes that's at least three times the size of Google's index, although there is no way to know for certain. Google stopped publicly quantifying its index's breadth nearly three years ago when the catalog spanned 8.2 billion Web pages.

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Cuil won't divulge the formula it has developed to cover a wider swath of the Web with far fewer computers than Google. And Google isn't ceding the point: Spokeswoman Katie Watson said her company still believes its index is the largest.

After getting inquiries about Cuil, Google asserted on its blog Friday that it regularly scans through 1 trillion unique Web links. But Google said it doesn't index them all because they either point to similar content or would diminish the quality of its search results in some other way. The posting didn't quantify the size of Google's index.

A search index's scope is important because information, pictures and content can't be found unless they're stored in a database. But Cuil believes it will outshine Google in several other ways, including its method for identifying and displaying pertinent results.

Rather than trying to mimic Google's method of ranking the quantity and quality of links to Web sites, Patterson says Cuil's technology drills into the actual content of a page. And Cuil's results will be presented in a more magazine-like format instead of just a vertical stack of Web links. Cuil's results are displayed with more photos spread horizontally across the page and include sidebars that can be clicked on to learn more about topics related to the original search request.

Finally, Cuil is hoping to attract traffic by promising not to retain information about its users' search histories or surfing patterns _ something that Google does, much to the consternation of privacy watchdogs.

After making so many bold promises, Cuil got off to a rocky start Monday as its computers were overwhelmed by curious Web surfers. As of late Monday afternoon, even simple search requests were still being greeted with this message: "No results because of high load."

Cuil is just the latest in a long line of Google challengers.

The list includes swaggering startups like Teoma (whose technology became the backbone of Ask.com), Vivisimo, Snap, Mahalo and, most recently, Powerset, which was acquired by Microsoft Corp. this month.

Even after investing hundreds of millions of dollars on search, both Microsoft and Yahoo Inc. have been losing ground to Google. Through May, Google held a 62 percent share of the U.S. search market followed by Yahoo at 21 percent and Microsoft at 8.5 percent, according to comScore Inc.

Google has become so synonymous with Internet search that it may no longer matter how good Cuil or any other challenger is, said Gartner Inc. analyst Allen Weiner.

"Search has become as much about branding as anything else," Weiner said. "I doubt (Cuil) will be keeping anyone at Google awake at night."

Google welcomed Cuil to the fray with its usual mantra about its rivals. "Having great competitors is a huge benefit to us and everyone in the search space," Watson said. "It makes us all work harder, and at the end of the day our users benefit from that."

But this will be the first time that Google has battled a general-purpose search engine created by its own alumni. It probably won't be the last time, given that Google now has nearly 20,000 employees.

Patterson joined Google in 2004 after she built and sold Recall, a search index that probed old Web sites for the Internet Archive. She and Power worked on the same team at Google.

Although he also worked for Google for a short time, Monier is best known as the former chief technology officer of AltaVista, which was considered the best search engine before Google came along in 1998. Monier also helped build the search engine on eBay's online auction site.

The trio of former Googlers are teaming up with Patterson's husband, Costello, who built a once-promising search engine called Xift in the late 1990s. He later joined IBM Corp., where he worked on an "analytic engine" called WebFountain.

Costello's Irish heritage inspired Cuil's odd name. It was derived from a character named Finn McCuill in Celtic folklore.

Patterson enjoyed her time at Google, but became disenchanted with the company's approach to search. "Google has looked pretty much the same for 10 years now," she said, "and I can guarantee it will look the same a year from now."

SAN FRANCISCO — Anna Patterson's last Internet search engine was so impressive that industry leader Google Inc. bought the technology in 2004 to upgrade its own system. She believes her latest ...
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- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 229 fans permalink
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It sucks see below, yellow fringed orchid is not a very rare term.

All the other search engine have tons of info

Cut and pasted

We didn’t find any results for “yellow fringed orchid”

Some reasons might be...

* a typo. Please check your spelling.
* your search includes a term that is very rare. Try to find a more common substitute.
* too many search terms. Please try fewer terms.

Finally, try to think of different words to describe your search.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 07/28/2008
- Sioen I'm a Fan of Sioen 17 fans permalink
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yellow fringed orchid gets 79,000,000 results now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 07/28/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 229 fans permalink
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yellow fringed orchid gets

No results because of high load...

Due to excessive load, our servers didn't return results. Please try your search again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 07/28/2008
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95 seconds later, I went back to Yahoo and Google. Work better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 07/28/2008

It sucks.
It's slow plus the few queries I made produced irrelevant results.
They are crowing that they have indexed 120 billion pages. This is BS at best

Google is not perfect but it is way better than this wannabe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 07/28/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 214 fans permalink
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Right. And I'm sure Google was perfect it's first few hours online. It was very fast when I tried it earlier.

"Yeah man. It sucks big time! I didn't get no results. What a crock. I ain't using 'em!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 07/28/2008

Difference being, Google started as an obscure two-man grad project at Stanford--they didn't have massive venture capital or PR supporting their launch. If Cuil wants to bill itself as a serious competitor to Google out of the gates, they need to be able to handle a little bit of bandwidth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 07/28/2008

Hmmmm.
Did several of my normal searches and got nothing at all.
I suppose some major tuning is going to be going on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 07/28/2008

Slow and cumbersome...too much info in the magazine style.



Just did a test search "House of Representatives," on cuil....the first result was to Rep. Julia Carson's page...she is no longer in Congress as she passed away recently. It's followed by several completely random and useless House links.



Do the same search on Google and the first result is the main House of Representatives page...hou­se.gov...w­hich is just what you'd be looking for.



Looks like a premature launch for cuil. It's laym (misspelling intentional).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 07/28/2008

Hahaha. Good one! You better register that domain....STAT! (www.laym.com)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 07/28/2008

This blows! I typed my name and nada. My website and tons of other sites utilizing my name and/or photos show up in Google. I love the concept of site contents rather than links influencing SERPS (search engine result pages). My colleagues don't understand interlinki­ng/deeplin­king.

They don't have time to get links from popular sites (or find sites. How to know a good site to write about and link and if that affects our site's SERPs?). Often links are from /to other struggling, but relevant, sites.

I get more private emails than comments, which relates to why some are reluctant or lack time/knowledge how to link. Is it my job to ask people, explain its importance, how to do it, and spend a huge amount of time focused on linking rather than provide valid content for my site?

Lacking funds, many are left out of Google because they can't pay for ads. Google has done a terrible job sharing info how to get good results. Businesses, artists, musicians, healers, teachers and others cannot share their work/sites more effectively. Google is focused on preventing spammers, but they will game the system.

I wish a team would come up with effective methods to truly decipher what's in a blog/site for efficient SERPs. Until then, it's a game for people with time or money, which excludes too many good people's work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 07/28/2008

Slow and cumbersome...too much info in the magazine style.

Just did a test search "House of Representatives," on cuil....the first result was to Rep. Julia Carson's page...she is no longer in Congress as she passed away recently. It's followed by several completely random and useless House links.

Do the same search on Google and the first result is the main House of Representatives page...hou­se.gov...w­hich is just what you'd be looking for.

Looks like a premature launch for cuil. It's laym (misspelling intentional).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 07/28/2008

yao it sucked..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 07/28/2008
- OddManOut I'm a Fan of OddManOut 3 fans permalink

Poor search results - irrelevant sites listed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 07/28/2008

Not a bad first impression. It certainly beats a lot of other minor search engines.

Can they catch Google? No.

Will the quality hold up? No. Why? Google used to be better than it is until people in the search engine optimization business figured out how to spam it. They have not done that with Cuil, yet. But they will. And then this one will suck as bad as any other search engine.

Search is dead. We need a new paradigm. Probably one that is a lot closer to how a good library/librarian works than anything else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 07/28/2008
- perk I'm a Fan of perk 16 fans permalink

In its current version, a huge step backwards. The spam pages rank higher than real content on 7 searches I performed. Yuck.

Better luck in the next version.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/28/2008

Perk,
You hit the nail on the head. I did my own random searches of some very common search terms and was blinded by the amount of spam and irrelevant pages that turned up at the top. Same searches on Google yielded more accurate and relevant results.

What has Cuil indexed? 120 billion pages of spam?

I would love to see a worthy competitor to Google emerge but these folks at Cuil aren't ready for primetime. Back to the drawing board for them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 07/28/2008
- anthonylee I'm a Fan of anthonylee 4 fans permalink
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I just took it for a spin and my home town isn't found! Also tried to search for people (odd names) none were found either.

The "Safe Search" feature does however provide a unique filter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 07/28/2008

I tried to cuil/google my name NO RESULTS were found . Interesting.

Nowif I google my name I can find at least 25 legitmate references. And since I am a praticing atty information about me should b e easily assessed on the net.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 07/28/2008
- hu.man I'm a Fan of hu.man 9 fans permalink
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This may be a good idea for certain type searches where one needs more information that just the a line or two google provides. So I don't see this as competing with google rather than complementing it. That said, I ran a few searches and the results were disappointing even though the magazine format was interesting. As some people have already commented here, there seems to be a lot of unnecessary repetition of the titles.

Looks to me like Cuil has failed in execution. Too soon to the market and not enough testing. Google is really the undisputed king of search. In this business, execution is the ultimate test. I doubt I will ever visit the Cuil again. I think people who put up the 33 mil put the pressure for early release. That is a disaster from which recovery may not be possible.

I am just at a wonder why so much money has gone into something that already is so locked up by a major player? In this case it should really be called 'Adventure Capital'!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 07/28/2008

I just tried Cuil by entering two different entries and Cuil came up blank both times. The same entries in google brought pages of results.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 07/28/2008
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