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MICHAEL LIEDTKE | July 28, 2008 06:45 PM EST | AP

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SAN FRANCISCO — Anna Patterson's last Internet search engine was so impressive that industry leader Google Inc. bought the technology in 2004 to upgrade its own system.

She believes her latest invention is even more valuable _ only this time it's not for sale.

Patterson instead intends to upstage Google, which she quit in 2006 to develop a more comprehensive and efficient way to scour the Internet.

The end result is Cuil, pronounced "cool." Backed by $33 million in venture capital, the search engine plans to begin processing requests for the first time Monday.

Cuil had kept a low profile while Patterson, her husband, Tom Costello, and two other former Google engineers _ Russell Power and Louis Monier _ searched for better ways to search.

Now, it's boasting time.

For starters, Cuil's search index spans 120 billion Web pages.

Patterson believes that's at least three times the size of Google's index, although there is no way to know for certain. Google stopped publicly quantifying its index's breadth nearly three years ago when the catalog spanned 8.2 billion Web pages.

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Cuil won't divulge the formula it has developed to cover a wider swath of the Web with far fewer computers than Google. And Google isn't ceding the point: Spokeswoman Katie Watson said her company still believes its index is the largest.

After getting inquiries about Cuil, Google asserted on its blog Friday that it regularly scans through 1 trillion unique Web links. But Google said it doesn't index them all because they either point to similar content or would diminish the quality of its search results in some other way. The posting didn't quantify the size of Google's index.

A search index's scope is important because information, pictures and content can't be found unless they're stored in a database. But Cuil believes it will outshine Google in several other ways, including its method for identifying and displaying pertinent results.

Rather than trying to mimic Google's method of ranking the quantity and quality of links to Web sites, Patterson says Cuil's technology drills into the actual content of a page. And Cuil's results will be presented in a more magazine-like format instead of just a vertical stack of Web links. Cuil's results are displayed with more photos spread horizontally across the page and include sidebars that can be clicked on to learn more about topics related to the original search request.

Finally, Cuil is hoping to attract traffic by promising not to retain information about its users' search histories or surfing patterns _ something that Google does, much to the consternation of privacy watchdogs.

After making so many bold promises, Cuil got off to a rocky start Monday as its computers were overwhelmed by curious Web surfers. As of late Monday afternoon, even simple search requests were still being greeted with this message: "No results because of high load."

Cuil is just the latest in a long line of Google challengers.

The list includes swaggering startups like Teoma (whose technology became the backbone of Ask.com), Vivisimo, Snap, Mahalo and, most recently, Powerset, which was acquired by Microsoft Corp. this month.

Even after investing hundreds of millions of dollars on search, both Microsoft and Yahoo Inc. have been losing ground to Google. Through May, Google held a 62 percent share of the U.S. search market followed by Yahoo at 21 percent and Microsoft at 8.5 percent, according to comScore Inc.

Google has become so synonymous with Internet search that it may no longer matter how good Cuil or any other challenger is, said Gartner Inc. analyst Allen Weiner.

"Search has become as much about branding as anything else," Weiner said. "I doubt (Cuil) will be keeping anyone at Google awake at night."

Google welcomed Cuil to the fray with its usual mantra about its rivals. "Having great competitors is a huge benefit to us and everyone in the search space," Watson said. "It makes us all work harder, and at the end of the day our users benefit from that."

But this will be the first time that Google has battled a general-purpose search engine created by its own alumni. It probably won't be the last time, given that Google now has nearly 20,000 employees.

Patterson joined Google in 2004 after she built and sold Recall, a search index that probed old Web sites for the Internet Archive. She and Power worked on the same team at Google.

Although he also worked for Google for a short time, Monier is best known as the former chief technology officer of AltaVista, which was considered the best search engine before Google came along in 1998. Monier also helped build the search engine on eBay's online auction site.

The trio of former Googlers are teaming up with Patterson's husband, Costello, who built a once-promising search engine called Xift in the late 1990s. He later joined IBM Corp., where he worked on an "analytic engine" called WebFountain.

Costello's Irish heritage inspired Cuil's odd name. It was derived from a character named Finn McCuill in Celtic folklore.

Patterson enjoyed her time at Google, but became disenchanted with the company's approach to search. "Google has looked pretty much the same for 10 years now," she said, "and I can guarantee it will look the same a year from now."

SAN FRANCISCO — Anna Patterson's last Internet search engine was so impressive that industry leader Google Inc. bought the technology in 2004 to upgrade its own system. She believes her latest ...
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So. why are my favorable-to-Cuil comments being held back while all the unfavorable-to-Cuil ones being allowed through? Something seems rotten in the state of Denmark. Hmm!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 07/28/2008
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It worked fine with me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 07/28/2008

what did you look up...yahoo?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 07/28/2008
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No. Lots of stuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 08/01/2008
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Then, again, maybe the ISP has something to do with it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 08/01/2008
- cungar I'm a Fan of cungar 5 fans permalink

I "cuiled" Fellinni. An article about Fellinni's birthday had a picture of Keith Richards in a funny hat. Not sure why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/28/2008

Also tried CUIL. If this is what you get for $33 million, the investors might want to demand a detailed audit. CUIL is beyond bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/28/2008
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The jury is still out on this one.

I tried a search on 'Obama' (more than 7 million hits) and it was slower than Karl Rove answering a Congressional subpoena; looking through newspapers would have been faster.

On the other hand, I tried searches that had less than 20,000 hits and it was about as fast as W is to claim (unitary) executive privilege.

The biggest negative thus far is that it is not particularly customizable as there are only two options for the user: 'safe search' and 'typing suggestions' -- both of which are either 'on' or 'off.' For example, one cannot (yet but perhaps in the future?) specify the number of hits per page, or limit the language(s) of hits. I could not tell if it's possible to structure searches in the way that The Google allows in its "advanced search" mode.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 07/28/2008
- bmora I'm a Fan of bmora 7 fans permalink
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Just tried it. It is way too slow and the results bare no relationship to what I was intending to find. I will reserve final judgement for a later date.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 07/28/2008

Having more pages indexed isn't the issue, the main thing these new companies should be focused on is being able to provide relevant search results..which based on my brief experience with Cuil is no better than Google (in fact, it is slower and the results are no more relevant than other search engines).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/28/2008

Exactly. I don't need more pages. I need search engines that are relevant ot the words I type.

And in this day and age, I cant wait 30 seconds for a pg to load. Ridic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 07/28/2008
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Will it search for a reason we should pronounce Cuil Cool?

I hate madeup internet language.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 07/28/2008

Would Be Conspiracy Theorists - Try this:

Google "MDA-904" then Cuill "MDA-904".

Notice a big gaping hole???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 07/28/2008

WOW! That was a great test and the results were not what I expected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 07/28/2008
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same thing happened when my wife typed in Stevie Nicks.

without quotes it gets ZERO returns. with quotes there are 600,000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 07/28/2008
- rmreddicks I'm a Fan of rmreddicks 35 fans permalink
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Pretty fast here (faster than google) but I'd rather see a listing of results than a magazine page where I have to hunt for relative results.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 07/28/2008

Agreed. Too many web designers still come from the school of print layout design--many concepts of which don't work well on the web. These "magazine pages" are difficult for the eye to scan and, like you said, don't impart any implicit information the way a list might imply relevance.

For now, Google's interface is solid. It's zero fluff and maximum usability. Their results are way way better too, at least for now.

I'm all for competition and innovation, but Cuil isn't going to cut it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 07/28/2008
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My Grandfather always said to me ... "Don't open your mouth until you have something to talk about!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 07/28/2008
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Not a good search engine at all. I substituted words like "new york times" with "nytimes" and ended up with dramatically different results, if any at all. Lots of sample searches brought absolutely no results, when those same searches took me immediately to what I was looking for on Google (or, for that matter, Yahoo.) These folks can't repair a first impression; it's simply not ready for prime time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 AM on 07/28/2008
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Hey! Just got back from trying it out! Damn! I love it! Google! Byyyyye!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 07/28/2008

Oh my! I am all for new SEs. Love the layout, only, speed is painfully slow. Preferences selection leaves an awful to be desired.

Love the layout... but they have got to get this thing working efficiently

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 07/28/2008

Give it time, people. Google was not nearly as good at its beginning, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 07/28/2008

After a little testing, it shows problems. "2007 Toyota Camry" brings up many hits. "Toyota Camry 2007" gives none. This is indicative of poor parser design. I hope they're paying attention and fix this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 07/28/2008

Well why the hell did they launch?

I dont open a new restaurant and say we're still perfecting our recipes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 07/28/2008
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