Karl Rove Held In Contempt By House Judiciary Committee

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First Posted: 07-30-08 11:35 AM   |   Updated: 08- 7-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — A House panel Wednesday voted to cite former top White House aide Karl Rove for contempt of Congress as its Senate counterpart explored punishment for alleged Bush administration misdeeds.

Voting 20-14 along party lines, the House Judiciary Committee said that Rove had broken the law by failing to appear at a July 10 hearing on allegations of White House influence over the Justice Department, including whether Rove encouraged prosecutions against Democrats such as former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman.

The committee decision is only a recommendation, and a spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said she would not decide until September whether to bring it to a final vote.

With little more than three months before Election Day, it wasn't clear whether majority Democrats could take any substantial action in a political environment in which time for the current Congress is running short and lawmakers face a host of daunting legislative problems and a cluttered calendar.

The House committee vote occurred as members of the Senate Judiciary Committee delved into allegations of wrongdoing ranging from discriminating against liberals at Justice to ignoring subpoenas and lying to Congress.

For his part, Rove has denied any involvement with Justice decisions, and the White House has said Congress has no authority to compel testimony from current and former advisers. His attorney, Robert Luskin, had urged the panel in letter not to vote for a citation, calling it a "gratuitously punitive" action that would serve no purpose because the question of executive privilege is already pending in two other cases in federal court.

Republicans who unanimously opposed the measure accused Democrats of staging political theater.

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"Instead of conducting witch hunts, we should consider bipartisan legislation to reduce the price of gas, reduce crime and secure the borders," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the top panel Republican.

But Democrats cited recent internal audits finding that politics heavily shaped Justice Department hiring, and they said that Rove had left them with no choice but to support a contempt citation.

"His name has come up repeatedly in the hearings on this subject," said Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich. "Yet he refuses to testify based on legally invalid claims of immunity privilege."

The Senate proceedings were the latest congressional review of the White House, a constitutionally mandated power that majority Democrats are eager to use. Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine, who reported this week that former department officials broke the law by letting administration politics dictate the hiring of prosecutors, immigration judges and career government lawyers, Fine said his office and Justice's Office of Professional Responsibility are investigating.

He said specifically that they're trying to determine whether Bradley Schlozman, former head of the department's Civil Rights Division, used political or ideological criteria to make hiring decisions.

Under questioning by Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the panel's senior Republican, Fine said he uncovered no evidence that any Justice officials involved made false statements to Congress or violated criminal law. Politicization of the hiring process for career positions is a violation of civil law and department policy, he said.

The Senate probe sprang from Justice's firings of nine federal prosecutors that sparked congressional investigations last year and led to the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

House and Senate Democrats said the findings of Justice's IG's office affirmed their contention that career employees there were hired and fired based on whether they were deemed sufficiently conservative, a violation of law. Conyers said earlier that he was considering bringing criminal charges against some of the former officials named in Fine's report who may have lied to his committee. Lying to Congress is a crime, but there's little agreement among Democrats on whether a perjury referral against some of the officials is warranted.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who led the investigation into the prosecutor firings, is pressing Fine to say whether making such a disregard of civil service rules a crime would deter the kind of conduct his investigation uncovered.

Similar legislation will be considered in the House.

"I will be asking Chairman Conyers to consider legislation to ensure that the politicization of hiring of career employees at the Justice Department never happens again," Pelosi said in a statement.

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Associated Press Writer Ben Evans contributed to this story.

WASHINGTON — A House panel Wednesday voted to cite former top White House aide Karl Rove for contempt of Congress as its Senate counterpart explored punishment for alleged Bush administration mi...
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- IowaKid I'm a Fan of IowaKid 18 fans permalink
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This is pathetic..­... This administration has broken the law repeatedly and just thumbs it nose at it and laughs because no one will do anything about it........ So sad.......­..........­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 07/31/2008

www.house.gov

tell them

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 AM on 07/31/2008
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Karl Rove needs to go to jail!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 AM on 07/31/2008
- Vinca I'm a Fan of Vinca 6 fans permalink

Maybe we need to BUILD A SPECIAL FOR GW BUSH< CHENEY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 07/31/2008

Let's get that NYC Cop to arrest him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 AM on 07/31/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

No clue why they wasting time and money on this crap. It's all for show; they know darn well they aren't going to arrest the guy, and he isn't going to show up to the circus on capitol hill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 AM on 07/31/2008

Absolutely! Best suggestion yet!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 07/31/2008
- olivia I'm a Fan of olivia 96 fans permalink

That is the extent of the consequences Rove will face:

They feel contempt for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 07/31/2008
- toochie I'm a Fan of toochie 4 fans permalink
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The feeling will be mutual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 07/31/2008
- researcher I'm a Fan of researcher 112 fans permalink

go rove make the demos crawl to ya

he can laugh at these folks

no one knows the demos better than rove

they are a joke to him

he is so powerful he got a gov put in jail on false charges

vote repub have wars it is the american way

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 07/31/2008
- Irons I'm a Fan of Irons 2 fans permalink

Why, I've held Karl Rove in contempt for years!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 07/31/2008
- Kally I'm a Fan of Kally 10 fans permalink

I think the whole damn country (of real Americans) does also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 AM on 07/31/2008
- Vinca I'm a Fan of Vinca 6 fans permalink

Irons: A GREAT MANY AMERICANS who haved followed this CORRUPT ADMIN, WANT JUSTICE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 AM on 07/31/2008
- twitch1956 I'm a Fan of twitch1956 4 fans permalink
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wait wait wait... patience patience patience. If they bring charges before Bush leaves office he will pardon Rove. We have waited eight years. We can wait some more if it means jail time and no pardon. However...­. Bush can pardon him and others for any crimes they may or may not have committed in execution of duties. They do not have to be indicted. So if they wait.... just maybe... we can get em all!

Check Ford's pardon of Nixon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 07/31/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

Got a point there. Why is it though they say they can't prosicute some federal employees because they don't work for the govt. anymore?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 07/31/2008

Well, it's only Wikipedia, but here is something on point:

"A presidential pardon may be granted at any time, however, and as when Ford pardoned Nixon, the pardoned person need not yet have been convicted or even formally charged with a crime. "

I know that doesn't pass for legal authority, but it's all I could find in 5 minutes.

Observation: waiting for the next administration is leading with your chin. Bush almost certainly intends to pardon Rove in any event. And the only way to stop him is to impeach him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 07/31/2008
- BrickSykes I'm a Fan of BrickSykes 41 fans permalink

I wish everyone here shared your attitude. Pelosi knows that to stop everything else to deal with Rove would be the worst thing they could do. Its got to be really hard to maintain perspective in the face of Bush's Criminal Activity.

But, thanks....

Brick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 07/31/2008
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But can one not pardon someone of crimes that have not been charged?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 07/31/2008
- jj I'm a Fan of jj 14 fans permalink

Unfortunately, reminds me of my mom's chihuahua - all bark, no bite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 07/31/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

I know Congress and it's not your mom's chihuahua.

With apologies to Lloyd Bentsen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 07/31/2008
- aturner18 I'm a Fan of aturner18 6 fans permalink
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She won't do anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 07/31/2008
- Mort I'm a Fan of Mort 38 fans permalink
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Sure she will... she'll say something!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 07/31/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

I believe like global warming she may wait for a Democratic President.

It's a whole new definition of leadership.

Oh Sam where are you when we need you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 AM on 07/31/2008
- Lupin77 I'm a Fan of Lupin77 6 fans permalink

He should be in jail but because he's well connected and wealthy, he's getting away with his criminal activities. Anyone else would not receive this preferential treatment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 07/31/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

It may be that the watchdog pursuing him lacks confidence and teeth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 07/31/2008
- marthlois I'm a Fan of marthlois 27 fans permalink

He's POND SCUM - simply pond scum.
He embarrasses America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 07/31/2008
- shadow322 I'm a Fan of shadow322 7 fans permalink
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America can no longer afford to continue the era of pardoning past crimes by our leaders. It has become so widespread and entrenched that it represents one of the few things that really does trickle down to the general population. These guys at the top are so emboldened by the statistics of this that they do not even hesitate anymore to lie, cheat or steal in the commission of their public duties! They have an assumption that at the end of their leaders term, they will be pardoned, all will be forgiven and to the victor go the spoils. Bush's entire administration will be remembered as "We did it - so what, now what are you going to do about it?" A LOT, FOR A CHANGE, I HOPE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 07/31/2008

Mr. Rove is an elite person, and a dedicated public servant. This is simply partisan politics at its worst!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 07/31/2008

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

I'm sorry, wait.
You were serious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 07/31/2008
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 07/31/2008
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 65 fans permalink

JoeBlows..­...the name says it all

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 07/31/2008
- dukeitout I'm a Fan of dukeitout 3 fans permalink

Congress: As an American citizen I hereby hold you in contempt for not doing anything constructive. Work on some real problems like getting us out of Iraq, increasing our ability to produce cleaner energy at lower cost, establish a health care system that's available to all the citizens, fix our broken immigration system, housing, education, bin Laden, blah, blah, blah, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. The hell with that creepy Rove. You're using him as a distraction because of your inability to get anything done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 07/31/2008

THIS POST ABOVE BY DUKEITOUT IS THE REASON PELOSI WON'T HOLD HEARINGS.

The problem with dukeitout's post is that all the "real" problems he or she cites were CAUSED by rove and the republicans. you can't treat the symptoms without excising the cancer. rove is a cancer....­...this presidency is riddled with cancer. i say take out the scalpel and start removing the cancerous cells.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 07/31/2008
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