Karl Rove Held In Contempt By House Judiciary Committee

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First Posted: 07-30-08 11:35 AM   |   Updated: 08- 7-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — A House panel Wednesday voted to cite former top White House aide Karl Rove for contempt of Congress as its Senate counterpart explored punishment for alleged Bush administration misdeeds.

Voting 20-14 along party lines, the House Judiciary Committee said that Rove had broken the law by failing to appear at a July 10 hearing on allegations of White House influence over the Justice Department, including whether Rove encouraged prosecutions against Democrats such as former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman.

The committee decision is only a recommendation, and a spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said she would not decide until September whether to bring it to a final vote.

With little more than three months before Election Day, it wasn't clear whether majority Democrats could take any substantial action in a political environment in which time for the current Congress is running short and lawmakers face a host of daunting legislative problems and a cluttered calendar.

The House committee vote occurred as members of the Senate Judiciary Committee delved into allegations of wrongdoing ranging from discriminating against liberals at Justice to ignoring subpoenas and lying to Congress.

For his part, Rove has denied any involvement with Justice decisions, and the White House has said Congress has no authority to compel testimony from current and former advisers. His attorney, Robert Luskin, had urged the panel in letter not to vote for a citation, calling it a "gratuitously punitive" action that would serve no purpose because the question of executive privilege is already pending in two other cases in federal court.

Republicans who unanimously opposed the measure accused Democrats of staging political theater.

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"Instead of conducting witch hunts, we should consider bipartisan legislation to reduce the price of gas, reduce crime and secure the borders," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the top panel Republican.

But Democrats cited recent internal audits finding that politics heavily shaped Justice Department hiring, and they said that Rove had left them with no choice but to support a contempt citation.

"His name has come up repeatedly in the hearings on this subject," said Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich. "Yet he refuses to testify based on legally invalid claims of immunity privilege."

The Senate proceedings were the latest congressional review of the White House, a constitutionally mandated power that majority Democrats are eager to use. Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine, who reported this week that former department officials broke the law by letting administration politics dictate the hiring of prosecutors, immigration judges and career government lawyers, Fine said his office and Justice's Office of Professional Responsibility are investigating.

He said specifically that they're trying to determine whether Bradley Schlozman, former head of the department's Civil Rights Division, used political or ideological criteria to make hiring decisions.

Under questioning by Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the panel's senior Republican, Fine said he uncovered no evidence that any Justice officials involved made false statements to Congress or violated criminal law. Politicization of the hiring process for career positions is a violation of civil law and department policy, he said.

The Senate probe sprang from Justice's firings of nine federal prosecutors that sparked congressional investigations last year and led to the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

House and Senate Democrats said the findings of Justice's IG's office affirmed their contention that career employees there were hired and fired based on whether they were deemed sufficiently conservative, a violation of law. Conyers said earlier that he was considering bringing criminal charges against some of the former officials named in Fine's report who may have lied to his committee. Lying to Congress is a crime, but there's little agreement among Democrats on whether a perjury referral against some of the officials is warranted.

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., who led the investigation into the prosecutor firings, is pressing Fine to say whether making such a disregard of civil service rules a crime would deter the kind of conduct his investigation uncovered.

Similar legislation will be considered in the House.

"I will be asking Chairman Conyers to consider legislation to ensure that the politicization of hiring of career employees at the Justice Department never happens again," Pelosi said in a statement.

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Associated Press Writer Ben Evans contributed to this story.

WASHINGTON — A House panel Wednesday voted to cite former top White House aide Karl Rove for contempt of Congress as its Senate counterpart explored punishment for alleged Bush administration mi...
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Nancy had better start acting like she is more interested in defending

the Constitution than in defending the neocons or she and many other

"resident democrats" will be out on their fannies in 2010. Guaranteed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 07/30/2008
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Nancy's hand is being forced by good citizens attempting to arrest Karl Rove themselves for the crimes we know he has committed.

How many good citizens need to be arrested before Nancy does her duty?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 07/30/2008
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From your lips to god's ear . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 07/30/2008
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I just sent my Congressman a very clear message promising to punish the "resident

democrats" in 2010, just like we are going to pound the once grand old party in 2008!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 07/30/2008
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Listen for a knock on your door and a clicking on your phone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 07/30/2008
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- - - - - and F the sin sores too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 PM on 07/30/2008
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See your internet disconnect­,lol....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 07/30/2008
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This statement is pending approval and won't ever be released.

And the numbnuts in Congress will do NOTHING.
NOTHING I say!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 07/30/2008
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They will do something, they will collect their paychecks, fund raise, kiss w butt, and get re elected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 PM on 07/30/2008
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Probably because people can't, or don't want to, see that voting for someone who isn't doing their job now isn't going to force them to work for you next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 07/30/2008

I think nothing dramatic will probably happen to this guy as well as fixing most of the mess this country is in. Both the demo-nuts and rethuglicans have to keep satisfying the lobbyists and rich people in power's special interests. Forget about We The People. The only thing that will go down for sure, is the United States. Unless, we kick all these crooks out of office. Are ready for Civil War 2, anybody?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 07/30/2008
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" the current Congress is running short and lawmakers face a host of daunting legislative problems and a cluttered calendar." Just file the charges, swear out a warrant, and arraign him. Not daunting at all. There are plenty of volunteers to bring him in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 07/30/2008

As George Carlin might say, "aybe the Speaker has no balls?!" For two years, the Dems have not had the courage to put W's feet to the fire by passing bills and forcing him to veto one bill after another. Instead they either whimper in the corner or give him his way...Can you say "FISA?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 07/30/2008
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Courage? They are two sides of the same coin, working together with the common goal of bettering the interests of their own elite class.

Wake up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 07/30/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 623 fans permalink
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In the photo Porky's middle finger seems to be prominent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 07/30/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 208 fans permalink
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This one's for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 07/30/2008
- ObamAtomic I'm a Fan of ObamAtomic 144 fans permalink
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Someone is saying he is smelling the dodo he put himself in,that is true?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 07/30/2008
- mimsnpips I'm a Fan of mimsnpips 10 fans permalink
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The saying "the more you eff them the more they love it" comes to mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 07/30/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 07/30/2008
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HOLDING KARL ROVE IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, BUT NOTHING WILL COME OUT OF IT BECAUSE IT IS JUST A POLITICAL SHOW AND EXERCISE IN FUTILITY

By Hermie Rotea

President Bush's former top adviser and political attack dog has been cited for contempt of Congress for refusing to testify before the House Judiciary Committee which voted 20-14 along party lines because he had violated the law by failing to appear at a July 10 hearing over his role in the Justice Department legal mess.

The action followed a move by its Senate counterpart exploring punishment for alleged involvement by the White House in the Justice Department's legal mess, including whether Rove had encouraged prosecutions against Democrats such as former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman.

A spokeman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi explained that the panel's decision is only a recommendation, and she would not decide until September whether to bring it to a final vote. With Bush's term of office due to expire in January 2009 and with the November 4 presidential and congressional elections fast approaching, that means nothing will come out of such contempt decision.

Members of Congress due for reelection are more interested in keeping their elective positions than in punishing Rove. They don't have time for such action no matter how justified. Congress merely wants to impress the public that it is trying to do its duty. But it is just a lot of political double talk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/30/2008
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"This comment is pending approval and won't be displayed until it is approved."

Why even bother posting here any more?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 07/30/2008
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Because sometimes they get through ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 07/30/2008
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What's become of this country... I mean really?

Sigh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 07/30/2008

Huffpo and the Chinese censors are to busy to be bothered.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 07/30/2008
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That *Software*is from China?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 07/30/2008
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I sense more than just the Judiciary Committee hold Rove in contempt..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 07/30/2008
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The news on the cable channels all day long has been M c C a i n's negative ads.

The Democratic leadership (NP) has been making the talk show rounds for days now, repeating how the Dems have tried to do what they promised voters, and there's no way to hold this administration accountable, to my slack-jawed disbelief.

To her and her colleagues, it is all about "looking forward", to a Dem in the WH.

The motivation for blocking investigations into G.W.B. law-breaking -
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/07/15/complicity/

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/07/19/law/index.html

Nobody is covering this story, and they won't. The two-party system, incumbents everywhere, and the media all need to be replaced. They've decided to move on, to them it's business as usual, a yawn and a stretch, and the New World Order waiting for us with a broken economy and government.

People everywhere need to get involved at the local level, join the local Dem party, find real Dems to run for office (or run yourselves), and take the country back one office at a time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 07/30/2008
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Thx for the link. It's not really a 2 party system. Just bad and worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 07/30/2008
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Not a two-party system anymore? Nader wins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 07/30/2008
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Man-oh-man! If you or I were to act like this, we'd be jailed in a heartbeat.

This is why I now withhold even a penny of support for the Dems. What's to support?

Hell, I've held KKKarl in contempt for the last 7.5 years, and where has that gotten me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 07/30/2008
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Yeah, so what? With John "whitewash" Conyers and Nancy "off the table" Pelosi in charge... NOTHING will happen.

I wonder when the sheeple are going to realize that the Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin, working in unison with each other to defraud the American public and that any apparent battles between the two parties are NOTHING more than staged political theater?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 07/30/2008

The wheels of justice turn slowly. Keep 'em moving! Thanks for pushing this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/30/2008
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Justice? Are you for real?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 07/30/2008
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It will all come out eventually­..........­..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 07/30/2008
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News which is no surprise. I can only applaud Conyers once again. A representative who actually takes on the serious issues which others want to just sweep under the rug....Rov­e....the Ohio election results...­.etc. Conyers is a true fighter.

Once again, the decision falls to Pelosi. And once again, when presented with cabinet members' actions which clearly broke the law and showed contempt for the constitution and the legislative branch itself.... we have to ask "will she tuck her tail and run away again ?" Just like she did on FISA....an­d impeachmen­t....and repeatedly funding the war...and pretty much everything else concerning illegal actions by this administration. If ever a member of the house did NOT in the least represent her constituen­cy...Pelos­i is the one.

The likelihood that she would actually decide to do anything is slim...and all I can say is....come an Obama presidency­...the Democrats would do very, very well to quickly and decisively dispose of both the Speaker of the House and their Senate Majority leader.

Pelosi and Reid ...history will not be kind to them. Very likely the 2 weakest congressional leaders ever to hold their positions.­...we would be hard-pressed to name anyone else who fits that bill any better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 07/30/2008
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Are you serious?

Conyers is the KING of the whitewash? Haven't you been paying attention to his actions over the last few years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 07/30/2008
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Why are you voting for him? Talk about giving away your power. This is what the left has been doing for more election cycles than I care to remember. We're told, "Deal with it, you've got no other choice", we go along, and we get screwed and now that what we said would happen if Repubs got into power has happened and the world has gone to h*ll in a hand-cart, we're letting the conservatives in both parties control us again?

No sooner had O sewed up the Dem nomination than he gave the liberal base that made him the finger. Now we hear that in addition to him and his conservative ways, the short-short list for VP has 3 conservative Dems - B a y h, K a i n e, and B i d e n. It's a total joke, on us, the American people.

Stop giving your power away. Make O and the Dems work for it. Make them work for YOU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 07/30/2008
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So the House Judiciary Committee holds Karl Rove in contempt. Guess they're finally catching up with most of the rest of the populace. He's nothing if not contemptible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 07/30/2008

Quitcher yappin' and start huntin', silly dog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 07/30/2008
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