Ice On Mars Confirmed By Phoenix Lander

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This image provided by NASA shows the full-circle panoramic view of the Phoenix Mars Lander taken during the first several weeks after NASA's Phoenix Mars Lander arrived on an arctic plain on Mars in late May. The Phoenix spacecraft "tasted" Martian water for the first time, Wednesday July 30, 2008. The robot heated up soil in one of its instruments earlier this week. University of Arizona scientists say the chemical test confirms the presence of ice near the Martian north pole. (AP Photo/NASA)

LOS ANGELES — The Phoenix spacecraft has tasted Martian water for the first time, scientists reported Thursday. By melting icy soil in one of its lab instruments, the robot confirmed the presence of frozen water lurking below the Martian permafrost. Until now, evidence of ice in Mars' north pole region has been largely circumstantial.

In 2002, the orbiting Odyssey spacecraft spied what looked like a reservoir of buried ice. After Phoenix arrived, it found what looked like ice in a hard patch underneath its landing site and changes in a trench indicated some ice had turned to gas when exposed to the sun.

Scientists popped open champagne when they received confirmation Wednesday that the soil contained ice.

"We've now finally touched it and tasted it," William Boynton of the University of Arizona said during a news conference in Tucson on Thursday. "From my standpoint, it tastes very fine."

Phoenix landed on Mars on May 25 on a three-month hunt to determine if it could support life. It is conducting experiments to learn whether the ice ever melted in the red planet's history that could have led to a more hospitable environment. It is also searching for the elusive organic-based compounds essential for simple life forms to emerge.

The ice confirmation earlier this week was accidental. After two failed attempts to deliver ice-rich soil to one of Phoenix's eight lab ovens, researchers decided to collect pure soil instead. Surprisingly, the sample was mixed with a little bit of ice, said Boynton, who heads the oven instrument.

Researchers were able to prove the soil had ice in it because it melted in the oven at 32 degrees _ the melting point of ice _ and released water molecules. Plans called for baking the soil at even higher temperatures next week to sniff for carbon-based compounds.

The latest scientific finding is the first piece of good news for a mission that has been dogged by difficulties in recent weeks.

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An electrical short on one of Phoenix's test ovens threatened the instrument, but scientists said the problem has not recurred. The lander, which spent the past several weeks drilling into the hard ice, also had trouble delivering ice shavings into an oven until the success this week.

NASA said Phoenix has achieved minimum success thus far. The space agency on Thursday announced that it would extend the mission for an extra five weeks until the end of September, adding $2 million more to the $420 million price tag, said Michael Meyer, Mars chief scientist at NASA headquarters.

Unlike the twin rovers roaming near the Martian equator, Phoenix's lifetime cannot be extended much more because it likely won't have enough power to survive the Martian winter

The science team also released a color panorama of Phoenix's landing site using more than 400 images taken by Phoenix. The view "was painstakingly stitched together," said Mark Lemmon of Texas A&M University, who headed the effort.

The portrait revealed a Martian surface that was coated with dust and dotted with rocks.

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On the Net:

http://www.nasa.gov/phoenix

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu

(This version CORRECTS mission extension to five weeks.)

LOS ANGELES — The Phoenix spacecraft has tasted Martian water for the first time, scientists reported Thursday. By melting icy soil in one of its lab instruments, the robot confirmed the presenc...
LOS ANGELES — The Phoenix spacecraft has tasted Martian water for the first time, scientists reported Thursday. By melting icy soil in one of its lab instruments, the robot confirmed the presenc...
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Since around 1976,scientist have been collecting today about 10-20,000 examples, of meteorites from Antarctica. We are currently in the International Polar Year, (IPY) scientists studying both the North Pole and Antarctica.

On the continent no one owns with no native people samples from asteroids, planets, moons, are collected from meteorites found on the "blue ice fields" and 50 or more laboratories have planetary materials to analyze and compare to our "other world" efforts. The rocks returned from the Apollo program and the info gathered by the Vikings on Mars are used to identify and analyze these knocked off fragments of other solar system objects, to help understand the history of the Universe starting nearby. The info we gather from Mars and meteorites may help us understand "climate" and perhaps answer what and where is life?

From the recent newsletter of the international Planetaery Society about the Phobos LIFE project: "Our preparations for sending microbes on a roundtrip to the Martian moon Phobos have shifted into high gear."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 08/05/2008
- antworks I'm a Fan of antworks 4 fans permalink
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I think NASA and the entire space program wastes money that could be better spent improving the economy of this country. Besides the Hubble telescope, I don't think NASA, landing on the moon or any of their missions has truly benefited us anything. And for those that think this opinion is really "out there" (i.e., off the charts of logic and sensibility), let me go a step further for you folks, specifically. UFOs and intelligent life on other worlds do exists. I also believe that these intelligent life forms have watched us, cataloged us and scrutinized our way of life extensively. They are not please with what they've seen, either!! NASA nor the government will tell the public about the space probes that have inexplicably stopped communicating with earth or been "lost in space". Have you ever wondered why? Here's my take on the situation. ETs have concluded that human beings are a violent species. Our wars, genocides of our own and the insane use of thermonuclear weapons have convinced these ETs that this planet and its life forms need to be quarantined! No deep space exploration, certainly not the "manned" type will ever be allowed to succeed. These intelligent life forms are afraid we will bring our insane aggression to their worlds, period. If we can't live among our own in peace, how in the heck do we propose to convince other life forms that we can live with them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 08/02/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

Uber, i'm going to start a business and sell impoted martian water to all the health nuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 08/01/2008
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That yes it is a good news: there is ice in Mars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 08/01/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

i think i'm going to start a company, lobby washington to tax the people so that i can go liberate the water on mars, occupy it and start my own government and siphon off all of the riches of earth so that i can live the high life on mars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 08/01/2008
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This is all the ice that will be left on earth if we don't reverse global warming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 08/01/2008
- nastyvirus I'm a Fan of nastyvirus 2 fans permalink

The researchers have concluded that the Martian water tastes like Sprite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 08/01/2008
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What about exploring beneath the surface of our neighbors' positions, right here on Earth? Do that and, maybe, just maybe, we'd attain peace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 08/01/2008
- dotmafia I'm a Fan of dotmafia 42 fans permalink
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I believe that the real interest in Mars lies in their suspicion that microbial life did not first appear on Earth, but was instead transported via meteorite. If Mars was a water-covered planet in its ancient past, there is a very good chance that life was thriving on Mars long before it ever reached or evolved on Earth. I think this is why they are so concerned with finding water. They want to find evidence of current (or past) microbial life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 08/01/2008
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You simply cannot imagine how much more you are going to find on this, your nearest neighbor if you simply keep looking. Study Mars well, for it is your future and your past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 AM on 08/01/2008
- TMAN I'm a Fan of TMAN 16 fans permalink
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This seems a right and life affirming comment, thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 08/01/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 515 fans permalink
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Here's a very easy way for NASA to instantly get 100 times the budget for space exploration: claim the probe has found oil... There are no conservatives in research science (and very few in any other profession that requires a high IQ...), no one could ever disprove them... ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 08/01/2008
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Yes, but the problem is, only Democrats (and Greens) are simple enough to believe that it's possible to transport oil through space economically.

For every pound you take off of a planet, you need to expend several pounds of fuel to break the gravitational forces.

Not to mention what would happen to a tank of petroleum upon re-entry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 08/01/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 515 fans permalink
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"only Democrats (and Greens) are simple enough to believe that it's possible to transport oil through space economically"

Only conservatives aren't smart enough to detect humor, irony and sarcasm...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 08/01/2008
- ashabot I'm a Fan of ashabot 10 fans permalink

..."only Democrats (and Greens)" .... MY GOD! What are you drinking!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 08/01/2008
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LOVE IT!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 08/01/2008
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Me too!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 08/01/2008

Can you imagine the rush that would occur if this truly happened? There would be a stampede for rocket and mining engineers to solve the problems of getting there and getting at that oil. And no caribou to complain about, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 08/01/2008

The first people to have a voice in this new oil source would be the conservationists. They would extend their reach from global to the solar system and move to stop any harvesting of Mars rich oil supplies.

The rocks would rather qickly find protection status and the future of Mars surface would be safe for all generations of who ever decides to live, occupy or migrate there.

What would we ever do without the conservationists?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 08/01/2008
- jotunloki I'm a Fan of jotunloki 8 fans permalink
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NOTHING to conserve. Any possible human activity could only impact microbial life, no one calls for protection of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 08/01/2008
- Pleidian I'm a Fan of Pleidian 6 fans permalink
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Well we knew that it was there but Congrtatulations all the same. Now if wen could only get the mainstrem journalists to realise that Mars is warmer, wetter, has a denser atmosphere and is generally nice like Arizona......we'd be somwhere.

So let's take over the defense "business" and turn it into a cooperative space industry, release the field propulsion technologies and inertia shields and have a freakin awesome party on Mars, with a stop over on the Moon.

We're 40 years overdue, people :o)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 AM on 08/01/2008

Wonderful news!! " Congratulation NASA" I never thought the day would come when
I would hear such great news. Keep up the good work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 08/01/2008
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Interestingly enough, it is postulated that the mysterious denizens of Mars resemble Jesus-shaped Cheetos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 08/01/2008
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Okay...I don't mean to be the killjoy, but I've never understood the justification for spending so much money on the space program. Is any of this going to be a tangible gain for any of us? I know that satellite technology has made a lasting impact on how we live and work, but how does finding water on mars help us back here?

Unless we're just trying to see if there is a way for George Stephanopoulos and Katie Couric to sustain themselves if we decide to send him up there on a one-way ticket......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 08/01/2008
- McMullen I'm a Fan of McMullen 2 fans permalink

For one thing, understanding our near neighbors helps us understand the Earth better.

For another thing, the price tag is actually pretty cheap compared to some other government operations. We spend more than the cost of this mission every TWO DAYS in Iraq. Which is of more long-term benefit - a better understanding of our universe, or two days of the Iraq War? You be the judge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 08/01/2008
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You said: "For one thing, understanding our near neighbors helps us understand the Earth better."

Shh! Don't speak so loudly! McCain might hear you and, then, start chatting up Fidel, Chavez and Ahmadinejad! Shh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 08/01/2008
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Don't let the GOP hear you. Next thing they'll have McCain endorsing BHO's "We must speak to our enemies" stuff!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 08/01/2008
- outmost1 I'm a Fan of outmost1 2 fans permalink
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That has been the problem, we've let them be the judge. Now it's time to tell these imbeciles rather than let them make up their own minds. Ordering them around is the only communication they understand.

(And by them I am only speaking of the flat earthers, religion before reality types, humanity doesn't matter as long as I get my mercedes types and all of the others under that big red tent)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 08/01/2008
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are you serious?
You don't think that space exploration is important to our understanding of our own planet
and the universe?
Do you think we're the only ones out there?
(well, some of us are more out there than others....).

with the continual overpopulation - Earth will not be able to support all these people. We'll need to find other alternatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 08/01/2008
- 70sFez I'm a Fan of 70sFez 21 fans permalink
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Okay, let's see. We can spend BILLIONS of dollars killing people in other countries, or, we can spend money on the promotion of science which helps us better understand our universe. Science is the only path to true understanding. But science must be able to continue to grow and discover, otherwise you end up with just religion and war. We have come a long way people. Remember when the Earth was flat? Remember when the sun orbited around the Earth? If we forget the grandeur of science we will be doomed to plunge back into the dark ages. Witch hunts, genocide, slavery, oh wait, we are still in the dark ages. Hmmmmm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 08/01/2008
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If you total NASA's entire budget from the moment it first began to operate and if you totaled the increase in economic output that resulted from the discoveries and development of technology (and I'm NOT talking about the "economic activity" of NASA's activities themselves), you'd find the benefits FAR outweigh the costs. The technologies developed truly help virtually every aspect of industry, from the mixing of nuts in a can, the stacking of objects for shipping, to super-glue and hundreds of thousands more, NASA's activities provide profound benefits to mankind and are truly a cost worth bearing.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 08/01/2008
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From the ridiculous (this political campaign season) to the sublime (this Earth shattering finding by NASA) Will you remember where you were the day it was announced that we humans, via interplanetary probe and robotic science lab module, found water (the foundational building block of all life as we know it) on another planet in the Universe besides our own? Can exobiological (life outside of planet Earth) discoveries be far behind?

This bit of wondrous, awe-inspiring news made my week! I'll be dancing the Happy Dance all weekend! Congratulations NASA on a job very well done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 08/01/2008
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