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First Posted: 07-31-08 11:08 AM   |   Updated: 08- 8-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — President Bush's top advisers are not immune from congressional subpoenas, a federal judge ruled Thursday in a long-running dispute between the two political branches.

Congressional Democrats called the ruling a ringing endorsement of the principle that nobody is above the law. They swiftly announced that the Bush officials who have defied their subpoenas, including Bush's former top adviser Karl Rove, must appear as part of a probe of whether the White House directed the firings of nine federal prosecutors. Democrats announced plans to open hearings at the height of election season.

The Bush administration was expected to appeal.

In his ruling, U.S. District Judge John Bates said there's no legal basis for Bush's argument and that his former legal counsel, Harriet Miers, must appear before Congress. If she wants to refuse to testify, he said, she must do so in person. The committee also has sought to force testimony from White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten.

"Harriet Miers is not immune from compelled congressional process; she is legally required to testify pursuant to a duly issued congressional subpoena," Bates wrote. He said that both Bolten and Miers must give Congress all nonprivileged documents related to the firings.

Bates, who was appointed to the bench by Bush, issued a 93-page opinion that strongly rejected the administration's legal arguments. He noted that the executive branch could not point to a single case in which courts held that White House aides were immune from congressional subpoenas.

"That simple yet critical fact bears repeating: the asserted absolute immunity claim here is entirely unsupported by existing case law," Bates wrote.

The ruling is a blow to the Bush administration's efforts to bolster the power of the executive branch at the expense of the legislative branch. Disputes over congressional subpoenas are normally resolved through political compromise, not through the court system. Had Bush prevailed, it would have dramatically weakened congressional authority in oversight investigations.

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., left open the prospect of a full House vote on a contempt citation against Rove, who defied his subpoena to appear before the Judiciary Committee on July 10.

"It certainly strengthens our hand," she said of Bates' ruling. "This decision should send a clear signal to the Bush administration that it must cooperate fully with Congress and that former administration officials Harriet Miers and Karl Rove must testify before Congress."

That wasn't clear at all to the White House or Rove's attorney.

Bush administration lawyers were still considering whether to appeal, but there was no doubt what they thought of the ruling.

"We disagree with the district court's decision," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said.

With only a few months left in Bush's presidency, there appeared to be no sense of urgency to come to a decision.

"I have not yet talked with anyone at the White House ... and don't expect that this matter will be finally resolved in the very near future," Rove attorney Robert Luskin said in an e-mail.

The House Judiciary Committee's senior Republican, Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, said he was pleased the court ruled in Congress' favor, but he cautioned that an ongoing showdown in federal court could ultimately curtail Congress' powers, and he urged Democrats and the White House to strike an agreement.

"Unfortunately, today's victory may be short-lived," Smith said in a statement. "If the administration appeals the ruling, our congressional prerogatives will once again be put at risk."

The chairmen of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees quickly demanded that the White House officials subpoenaed appear before their panels.

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, signaled that hearings would commence in September on the controversy that scandalized the Justice Department and led to the resignation of a longtime presidential confidant, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

"We look forward to the White House complying with this ruling and to scheduling future hearings with Ms. Miers and other witnesses who have relied on such claims," Conyers said in a statement. "We hope that the defendants will accept this decision and expect that we will receive relevant documents and call Ms. Miers to testify in September."

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said, "I look forward to working with the White House and the Justice Department to coordinate the long overdue appearances."

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Associated Press reporters Laurie Kellman and Ben Evans contributed to this story.

WASHINGTON — President Bush's top advisers are not immune from congressional subpoenas, a federal judge ruled Thursday in a long-running dispute between the two political branches. Congressiona...
WASHINGTON — President Bush's top advisers are not immune from congressional subpoenas, a federal judge ruled Thursday in a long-running dispute between the two political branches. Congressiona...
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Sweet................Let the games begin!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 07/31/2008

Unfortunately, it will likely take 3 years before all the appeals are completed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 07/31/2008

Good because in three years Obama will be in office and when these criminals are prosecuted there will be no Bush Pardon to worry about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 07/31/2008
- Missmn I'm a Fan of Missmn 2 fans permalink

Best news of the day so far.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 07/31/2008

In US v. Nixon the Supreme Court stated, "A President and those who assist him must be free to explore alternatives in the process of shaping policies and making decisions and to do so in a way many would be unwilling to express except privately. These are the considerations justifying a presumptive privilege for presidential communications. The privilege is fundamental to the operation of government and inextricably rooted in the separation of powers under the Constitution."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 07/31/2008
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If memory serves me Nixon was impeached and several of his aids went to jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 07/31/2008
- spiffarino I'm a Fan of spiffarino 10 fans permalink

No, Nixon resigned before the impeachment could begin. None other than Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) went to Nixon and told him he would not survive a vote of removal, so Nixon left with his tail between his legs.

Too bad we don't have the Congress of 1974 today. The current one is utterly gutless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 07/31/2008
- spiffarino I'm a Fan of spiffarino 10 fans permalink

Very selective passage. Here's what followed:

"But this presumptive privilege must be considered in light of our historic commitment to the rule of law. This is nowhere more profoundly manifest than in our view that "the twofold aim [of criminal justice] is that guilt shall not escape or innocence suffer." We have elected to employ an adversary system of criminal justice in which the parties contest all issues before a court of law. The need to develop all relevant facts in the adversary system is both fundamental and comprehensive. The ends of criminal justice would be defeated if judgments were to be founded on a partial or speculative presentation of the facts. The very integrity of the judicial system and public confidence in the system depend on full disclosure of all the facts, within the framework of the rules of evidence. To ensure that justice is done, it is imperative to the function of courts that compulsory process be available for the production of evidence needed either by the prosecution or by the defense...."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 07/31/2008

Yes the privilege is weakest in a criminal proceeding, which this is not. This is a case of the Congress trying to get testimony to embarass the president. THAT is what is protected.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 07/31/2008
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Comparing Boosh to Nixon when he was being impeached? LOL!

And what you quoted has nothing to do with aides who had conversations with those other than the President AND those who were involved in illegal actions, sucka.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 07/31/2008
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The final paragraph in the section quoted (iv.c): "We conclude that when the ground for asserting privilege as to subpoenaed materials sought for use in a criminal trial is based only on the generalized interest in confidentiality, it cannot prevail over the fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of criminal justice. The generalized assertion of privilege must yield to the demonstrated, specific need for evidence in a pending criminal trial." There is an exception noted for matters of national security; however, they further state: "No case of the Court, however, has extended this high degree of deference to a President's generalized interest in confidentiality. Nowhere in the Constitution, as we have noted earlier, is there any explicit reference to a privilege of confidentiality, yet to the extent this interest relates to the effective discharge of a President's powers, it is constitutionally based."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 07/31/2008

Criminal trial, not the case here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 07/31/2008
- kasv I'm a Fan of kasv 22 fans permalink

Frankly, I'm glad this Judge was appointed by Bush. However, he writes: "That simple yet critical fact bears repeating: the asserted absolute immunity claim here is entirely unsupported by existing case law," Bates wrote.

I don't know much about the law, but the key word seem to be "existing." I don't trust Bush & Co -can they bring a case - any like case - before another judge that will agree with them and then go back and cite this new "existing" case law?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 07/31/2008
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No. However, the judge has no independent mechanism to force the "justice department" actually to enforce the law. Mukasey has already made it clear he will not enforce Congressional subpoenas against the Bush White House, so nothing will happen.

Quite simply, this is an abuse of power only correctable by impeachment and removal from office. And as we all know, impeachment is "off the table".

Further, expect no action by any future Democratic administration. BO is seeking to follow the same "bi-partisan" path Clinton followed regarding Reagan/Bush I political crimes (i.e. sweep them under the rug and hope for republican gratitude).

And in any case, Bush II will issue sweeping blanket pardons to himself and all of his criminal gang for past and future crimes before leaving office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 PM on 07/31/2008
- legalgirl I'm a Fan of legalgirl 21 fans permalink
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AT LAAAAAAAAASSST, the justice system is allowed to work. Mind you, this has been the truth ALL ALONG. That's important. Alllll the other crap is just that, crap. All the MSM crap, all the rethuglican neocon crap about nat'l security, et al., crap. CrapforChristmas for US, the USA. I'm so happy, I could fly! Now, don't stop, Congress. Put the pedal to the metal. You ARE on solid ground. 93-page opinion? They won't appeal. They won't want to lose in public. Yeah, yeah, yeahhhhh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 07/31/2008
- pesfb I'm a Fan of pesfb 6 fans permalink
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As high as you are now is how low you will be when you see that the cowardly Dems still will not act and will continue to shirk their constitutional duty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 07/31/2008
- mccabe49 I'm a Fan of mccabe49 5 fans permalink

cowardly dems cowardly dems blah blah blah of course republicans play not part in Congress right? They have absoulutely no responsibility for anytjhing. You know what ..Shut the hell up already

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/31/2008
- ranger5 I'm a Fan of ranger5 14 fans permalink

So true. The fascists will appeal this decision and drag it out past January. Even if Bolton and Miers did appear before a Congressional hearing, nothing would come of it. Congress has shown time and time and time again that it knows how to bark but has absolutely no interest in biting. Bolton and Miers will stonewall, "forget", lie if needed, just like Gonzales and all the rest of Bush's flunkies. And the Congress will do nothing. It's all a dog and pony show to try and satisfy those Americans who still care about the Constitution and the rule of law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 07/31/2008

U.S. District John Bates is our hero for the day! There is hope...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 07/31/2008
- Denemator I'm a Fan of Denemator 20 fans permalink
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Not sure as to which lawschool he went to, but it can't have been the same as the one goodling attended.

bushco should have checked first, that way he could have avoided this mess he got himself into now, It just doesn't pay off to appoint compentent people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 07/31/2008
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booooosh is probably stamping his feet in a tantrum, particularly, since he appointed this judge, how angry he must be that that judge actually has integrity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 07/31/2008
- evie I'm a Fan of evie 8 fans permalink
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Good thing Monica G. didn't interview the judge. . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 07/31/2008
- TheRebel82 I'm a Fan of TheRebel82 3 fans permalink

Bwahahahahaha! MC Rove come on dowwwwwwwwwwn!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 07/31/2008

"Forced to testify?"

Break out the WATERBOARDS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 07/31/2008

This almost makes me want to make waterboarding legal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 07/31/2008
- JUSTME I'm a Fan of JUSTME 17 fans permalink

Rats are abandoning ship.

Watching Obama's speech in Berlin, I was overwhelmed by the thought that I was witnessing the death of the Bush Administration and whatever psychosis has held the American people in its grip for the past eight years. And now a Bush-appointed federal judge has ruled against the Bush White House and for the American people.

This means that Harriet, Josh, and KARL had better get themselves cleaned up for the cameras.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 07/31/2008
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"whatever psychosis has held the American people in its grip for the past eight years"

Is that what we're calling democracy now, an official ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE holding those who elected him in his grip? You put him there, TWICE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 07/31/2008
- JUSTME I'm a Fan of JUSTME 17 fans permalink

Subtlety, thy name is Furby. NOT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 07/31/2008
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You are indeed witnessing the death of the Bush administration. It's life having always been timed by the clock. However, as to the death of the psychosis that has held the American people in it's grip for the past eight years? Well, I can testify to the fact that it is the same psychosis that led Americans to elect Nixon in 1972 even after he was clearly implicated in Watergate. It's born of ignorance and fear. It affects approximately fifty percent of the population, and thus, sadly, it will always be.

Given that the opinion of a single judge, while certainly important, is rarely the end of the story - I'd be interested to see how this case would be decided by the Supreme Court. Not likely to happen due to the lateness of the hour, but it would sure be telling. In recent times the packing of the court by a single ideology is usually couched in terms of the abortion debate. In my mind, this issue is far more important. It goes to the heart of our constitutional government.

Oh well.... Score one for the good guys!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 07/31/2008
- loax I'm a Fan of loax 20 fans permalink

The train to Leavenworth is starting to roll. The whole Bush administration will be climbing on board!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 07/31/2008
- NickNas I'm a Fan of NickNas 6 fans permalink

Did you hear that??? Listen>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That shrill squeek was a BUNCH of Clinching butts as they found out they are now VULNERABLE!

Bush CANNOT change our LAWS or Constitution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/31/2008
- lisak2008 I'm a Fan of lisak2008 11 fans permalink
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Ya' hear that Rove!!! Get your tail in to Congress and testify. You're going down buddy!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 07/31/2008
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 716 fans permalink
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good,let's subpoena the entire administration,and find out where they went wrong in destroying our country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 07/31/2008
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noone should be above the law.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 07/31/2008
- Furby I'm a Fan of Furby 66 fans permalink
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Perhaps, but nobody subpeonaed Mr. Noone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 07/31/2008
- jimme I'm a Fan of jimme 11 fans permalink

Because he's above the law. Duh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 07/31/2008
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