Rachel Maddow Leads Chorus Of Truth On 'Presumptuous' Accusation

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First Posted: 07-31-08 11:05 AM   |   Updated: 08- 8-08 05:12 AM

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Lots of commenters last night were asking for clips of Rachel Maddow and Michael Smerconish hailing down a rain of ownage on Pat Buchanan, so why not indulge them? At issue was Dana Milbank's article in yesterday's Washington Post, that "reported" on Barack Obama's "presumptuousness." Maddow was invited to take the matter on, and she led with this statement, "This issue is weird when you look at the facts on which it is based."

And she couldn't be more right! As I endeavored to explain yesterday, Milbank's Obama-is-presumptuous thesis was basically underpinned by nonsense: a laundry list of thoroughly commonplace activities that all presidential candidates engage in, coupled with a quote from the candidate that Milbank a) didn't hear, and yet b) sliced up into hash, anyway, transforming a humble statement into a self-aggrandizing one.

Pat Buchanan basically showed up for the show under the impression that Milbank's article was faithfully reported, and attempted to read Milbank's incorrect quote into the record. But Maddow wasn't having it:

BUCHANAN: Look, Rachel said there was humility, real humility here. Let me read his direct quote according to Dana Millbank. He's telling the Congressional guys, "This is the moment the world is waiting for. I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best tradition." Upon what meat has this our Caesar fed? He's sounding like America's hot dog.


MADDOW: The issue is that quote has been disproved today! That quote has been contradicted by multiple other sources, talking to Time Magazine, talking with other reporters, explaining...he did not say that at all.

GREGORY: Let me break in. Smerc, you're coming. Let me break in with what the actual quote is. The Politico reported on this. This is what Obama actually said according the the Politico: "It's becoming increasingly clear, in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, it's not about me at all. It's about America. I have just become a symbol." Smerc.

SMERCONISH: All right. Nobody was in a room from a journalistic standpoint when that statement was offered, but, The New York Times - I'm amazed that no one has brought this up so far - June 4, 2008, a direct quote from Senator Obama, "I love when I'm shaking hands on a rope line and I see a little old white lady and a big burly black guy and Latino girls and all their hands are entwined, and they are feeding on each other as much as on me. It's like I'm just the excuse." In other words, he's said it before, in the proper context. It's a feel good statement about the country and what he represents. We don't have to debate what he said behind closed doors because we have him on the record. And giving him the benefit of the doubt, he said the same thing yesterday that he told the Times on this day.

MADDOW: Which I would argue is a symbol of humility and not hubris. But people want to run with the hubris line.

[WATCH.]

It was a beautiful piece of work, but I want to add a dose of caution and attention, here, because after Buchanan had been beated all about the skull on this matter, he fell back on a line he had already advanced earlier in the show:

BUCHANAN: Everybody that's critical of Obama when he's in a rough patch. He's respending with angry ads that show the attacks are working.

Buchanan had leveled this comment at Maddow earlier in the show, suggesting that the very fact that the Obama campaign was compelled to respond -- and the very fact that Maddow had even reacted with objection -- was proof that the McCain attacks were "working." In other words, McCain wins if Obama even fights back! Watch closely, as this becomes part of the toxic conventional wisdom.

Lots of commenters last night were asking for clips of Rachel Maddow and Michael Smerconish hailing down a rain of ownage on Pat Buchanan, so why not indulge them? At issue was Dana Milbank's article...
Lots of commenters last night were asking for clips of Rachel Maddow and Michael Smerconish hailing down a rain of ownage on Pat Buchanan, so why not indulge them? At issue was Dana Milbank's article...
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- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 285 fans permalink
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Who do we have on the air as clear and as smart as Rachel Maddow? I can't think of anyone on cable or network channels.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 08/02/2008

I loved the way Rachel handled herself and Pat Buchanon in this one. And Harold Ford was predictable - a sellout, as usual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 08/02/2008
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I agree. What on earth does Harold Ford contribute? He seems not all that bright and somewhat wishy washy to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 08/02/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 282 fans permalink
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The right political front in Tennessee is so entrenched they have BLUE DOGS who fool people every years and keep getting into office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 08/03/2008
- honeydiva I'm a Fan of honeydiva 19 fans permalink

harold ford should be ashamed of himself. rachel saw the truth and so did that other guy. harold won't win anything else that he needs the minority vote for. he's a disgrace.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 08/02/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 282 fans permalink
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Maybe one day you will be invited to a party where a setup has been arranged to get a pic of you with someone you would never want to be seen with and then that pic used as a weapon against you.

Some beer swigged trailor living welfare case unemployed draft dodger!!!

Oh wait, that sounds like G.W. BUSH and DICK CHENY!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 08/03/2008

right on. i'm waiting for him to come back to the hood to kiss babies and try to run for gov or something here in tn. not this time harold! he has shown his true colors thoughout this campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 08/03/2008

I love Rachel Maddow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 08/02/2008
- cobraxus I'm a Fan of cobraxus 22 fans permalink
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more proof that all bullies are cowards at heart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 08/02/2008
- Veeve I'm a Fan of Veeve 32 fans permalink
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Oh, snap! Rachel just handed Buchanan his a**.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 08/02/2008

I'm glad we are seeing a lot more of Rachel Maddow and her quick, no-back-down style of discussion. She, along with Andrea Mitchell and Keith Olbermann and a few others, are letting some real information actually eek through on the television news, not an easy task when head-butting the likes of Pat Buchanan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 08/02/2008
- Ron333wood I'm a Fan of Ron333wood 7 fans permalink

I adore Rachel Maddow. She's a great fill-in for Olbermann. If MSNBC for find a job for a "Tucker" tthey should be able to showcase more of Rachel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 08/02/2008
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I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 PM on 08/02/2008
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Rachel Maddow for Vice President! Gotta love her.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 08/02/2008

If I were a woman, I'd be totally gay for Rachel Maddow. I love her. As much as I like watching Keith Olbermann, I find myself looking forward to hearing her every show and I feel disappointed if she's not on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 08/02/2008
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"Presumptuous," "uppity," and "know your place" are nice ways of saying the N-word. The fact that this has gotten so much traction and the press keeps repeating it is ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 08/02/2008
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They are truly irritated that this "boy" doesn't know his place. And angered that he is so popular. I can only wonder what they say in private (and they may even get caught doing it on camera, if they are not careful!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 08/02/2008
- neesy08 I'm a Fan of neesy08 20 fans permalink
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exactly! Pat B is always asking why hasn't obama sealed the deal? maybe because it is still summer! hello! he will seal the deal come november!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 08/03/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 15 fans permalink

yes they are. Harold Ford will not say so because he is protecting his own future run for office again and he figures that it is

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 08/02/2008
- wolfbato I'm a Fan of wolfbato 4 fans permalink

Especially David Gregory who can't stop saying "Country First" John McCain's lying motto ... I used to think Gregory was a reporter ... now I know he is a shameless talking parrot looking for his own show. Thank god for Rachel Maddow and her ability to cut through the MSM's talking points with ... gasp ... facts. I hope they give Rachel Maddow ... Dave Gregory's show/slot ... only to shut his propaganda down ... Country First ... Country First ... Country First ... Country First ... Country First ... Country First.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 08/02/2008

It is merely a sign of the decline of education in America, that these moronic debates even take place. The Republican Party has spent decades undercutting the American public education system while pretending to care about it. And they are now banking on the average American's inability to decipher clearly stated opinions by Barack Obama. You have to be a fairly stupid person not to see these statements Obama made as a sign of humility and an attempt to bring people together. The fact that so many GOP lovers keep trying to misquote Obama and make his very clear statements seem somehow controversial and bad indicates just how stupid the Republicans think we are.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 08/01/2008
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I think Rachel rocks she can be sweet as sugar but if you mess with her she'll tell it like is and she won't . back . down *plays the Tom Petty song here* :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 08/01/2008
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Some honest person in the media who has the power should put her in the well deserved national position with her own one hour political television show and more. Randi Rhodes also rocks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 08/01/2008
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MSNBC should be all over this. Rachel did well subbing for Keith. She would do very well with her own show.

Memo to MSNBC: Cut out the crap. Predators. Criminals. Life behind bars. Yechhh. Does that mix of programming really build the brand you want to be? God, I hope not. MSNBC brass: Get a clue. Ditch the scummy image. You are better than this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 AM on 08/02/2008
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You are so right about MSNBC dilluting their "brand" with moronic , sensationalist programs. With Olbermann, Maddow (who IS fabulous) and some others MSNBC could be a real player instead of a perennial also -ran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 08/02/2008
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Amen! I've said it before: This is an election year unlike any other. What's with the documentaries?? Make them go away!! I refuse to watch FOX, and CNN has turned into one of the biggest heartbreaks I've had recently. I want all news, all the time, from MSNBC. Why on earth would they blow this opportunity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 08/03/2008

Pressure the media, Democrats,not just Obama supporters but Democrats and progressives have to put pressure on the media outlets.

Hillary lost because she voted for the Iraq War and the Flag Burning Amendment. Now the question is why did she make those votes and then not apologize for it. 1 reason could be she lacks character, but that is subjective, another major reason is the Media, the Republicans have painted Democrats as wrong on everything in America since Jimmy Carter. Many Democrats have watched other Democrats lose elections for votes they have made.

The truth is they didn't lose because of the vote they made, but the way Republcians painted their vote and the Media has been a HUGE influence on how the Republicans get their lies out.

Obama is talking about the economy and the Republicans are talking about Race, which one is getting more coverage today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 08/01/2008

Guys we need jobs ..good schools..universal health care...darn i need to feel my tank!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 08/01/2008
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