Obama Heckled For Not Focusing On Black Issues

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First Posted: 08- 1-08 11:16 AM   |   Updated: 08- 9-08 05:12 AM

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John McCain is usually the candidate getting heckled and interrupted on the trail, a product of his open town halls but also the more controversial aspects of his foreign policy.

But on Friday it was Barack Obama who found himself being yelled at -- several times -- by African-American attendees who argued that he ignores "black" issues.

In an appearance in St. Petersburg, Florida, the Illinois Democrat's address was interrupted when several young black males stood up, hoisted a banner that read, "What about the black community, Obama?" and began peppering the Senator for not focusing on their concerns.

Obama told them they would have time to ask questions after the speech was over, and they did. They asked why he was not focusing on issues like the sub-prime mortgage crisis, Jena Six, Sean Bell and "the numerous attacks that are made against the African-American community." Obama responded twofold: telling the hecklers that he had, in fact, been focused on these issues and explaining that there would never be 100% continuity between his agenda and that of the voters.

"Listen, I was a civil rights lawyer," Obama said. "I passed the first racial profiling legislation in Illinois. I passed some of the toughest death penalty reform legislation in Illinois. That doesn't mean I am always going to satisfy the way you want these issues framed... which gives you the option of voting for somebody else, it gives you the option of running for office yourself, those are all options. But the one thing I think is important is, that we are respectful towards each other."

It is rare for Obama to be heckled in a political forum, but it's not terribly surprising that the protest came from a fellow African-American. Moments after he took the man's question, a nearby African-American woman yelled at Obama again. The Senator has trod a thin line on the racial components of this campaign. Witness the uproar over accusations -- made by John McCain's campaign manager Rick Davis -- that he played the race card. And his posture as a post-racial candidate has struck some as discourteous (see: Jesse Jackson). Still, the idea that Obama will get anything short of an overwhelming portion of the black vote seems far-fetched.

Below is the full question and answer exchange:

QUESTION: "In the face of the numerous attacks that are made against the African community or the black community, by the same U.S. government that you aspire to lead. We are talking about attacks like the sub-prime mortgage... that was a phenomenon that started in the African American and Latino community, attacks like the killing of Sean Bell... and the Jena Six... and on and on... in the face of all these attacks, why is it that you have not had the ability to speak to the interest and the behalf of the oppressed and exploited African-American community in this country?"


OBAMA: "I think you are misinformed ... Every issue you talk of I did speak out about. I have been talking about predatory lending for the last two years in the U.S. Senate and worked to pass legislation to prevent it when I was in the state legislature. I have repeatedly said that many of the predatory loans that were made in the mortgage system did target the African American and Latino communities.

"Jena Six, I was the first candidate to get out there and say this is wrong, that an injustice what had been done... When Sean Bell got shot I put out a statement saying immediately this is a problem...

"Don't start shouting back, I'm just answering your question. On each of these issues I have spoken out. I may not have spoken out the way you have wanted me to speak out. Which is fine. I understand. On each of these issues you have mentioned I have spoken out and I have spoken out forcefully. Listen, I was a civil rights lawyer. I passed the first racial profiling legislation in Illinois. I passed some of the toughest death penalty reform legislation in Illinois.

"That doesn't mean I am always going to satisfy the way you want these issues framed... which gives you the option of voting for somebody else, it gives you the option of running for office yourself, those are all options. But the one thing I think is important is, that we are respectful towards each other. And what is true is that the only way we are going to solve our problems in this country is if all of us come together, black white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, young, old, disabled, gay, straight... that has got to be our agenda."


John McCain is usually the candidate getting heckled and interrupted on the trail, a product of his open town halls but also the more controversial aspects of his foreign policy. But on Friday it was...
John McCain is usually the candidate getting heckled and interrupted on the trail, a product of his open town halls but also the more controversial aspects of his foreign policy. But on Friday it was...
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- mick3 I'm a Fan of mick3 3 fans permalink

Blacks will do themselves a huge disservice if they try to force Obama to campaign on black issues. The McCain campaign is doing its best to foster fear of his (half) blackness in the minds of the ignorant and bigoted. His black constituents should be intelligent enough to understand that they only undermine his campaign in this way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 08/03/2008
- Jahsmah I'm a Fan of Jahsmah 3 fans permalink
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I could not agree more. That pissed me off. As a Black woman, I so sick of Black people shooting ourselves in the foot! Should he where a dashiki and African print clothes? Just as the white people who are are seeing this historic campaign through race are ignorant, so are black people. Honestly, I am disgusted. I am not saying all Black people should vote for him because he is black, but I will say...vote your interests stupid and I can promise, John McSame, to quote Kanye, "Doesn't care about black people [in the way an Obama administratioin will.]"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 08/05/2008

I vented the last two days about Obama, but I am NOT crazy when it comes down to voting my interest. I would NEVER vote for McCain and his uppity wife. Although I stand on my position that Obama needs to show the same consideration to Blacks as he does to Jews, Hispanics, Vets, women, and other groups, I know that he is still the lesser of two evils when compared to McCain.

This is just another reason why I would NOT vote for McCain (or stay home on Election Day):

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/10086

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 08/03/2008
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That is what gets me. I don't see the same consideration. What has always been the case is that Blacks have always been underestimated, undervalued and marginalized here. Everyone elses issues of concerns can be addressed but let black issues of concerns be addressed and all of a sudden it's "polarizing," divisive, best left alone. This is terribly frustrating to a group whose plight has always been minimized here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 PM on 08/04/2008

totally agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 08/05/2008

I vented the last two days about Obama, but I am NOT crazy when it comes down to voting. I would NEVER vote for McCain and his uppity wife. Although I stand on my position that Obama needs to show the same consideration to Blacks as he does Jews, Hispanics, Vets, women, and other groups, I know that he is still the lesser of two evils when compared to McCain.

This is just another reason why I would NOT vote for McCain (or stay home on Election Day):

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/10086

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 08/03/2008

I guess my view on this as a white male is that when he is president, he will represent us all. I feel very confident in this, as I've listened to many speeches, read his books and read the positions on his website. I'm voting for him in November because he seems to know that as president he can't be so narrow as to represent only one segment of our society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 08/03/2008
- DEl19713 I'm a Fan of DEl19713 4 fans permalink
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This is Black on Black Crime. To put down a man because of his color is riducules. He should share your views because of his color? This man is a fair man, a honest man. Don't hate on him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 08/03/2008

I first ran into this with a brother getting off by posting from bloggers citing no sources for their more informed knowledge.
I realize by his quotes of things Obama said at Selma that this poster has an animosity to Obama being less black (the so-called "post-racial candidate"),who happened to have positive white influence in his raising and development, approval during his education and from his Illinois constituents as well as his US Senate confreres who felt he should be at the 2004 convention in New York; but he is not the first "Black" Senator in the US Congress since Reconstruction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Rhodes_Revels the previous American told that he could not remain a Senator because of mixed race which meant he could not have been a full fledged citizen with the rights of a citizen. Revels prevailed,as white as he was black, he qualified as an American citizen to hold political office now that Southern Reconstruction had begun.
We need a much larger American Reconstruction, whether we encounter resentful African-American or White citizens, voters or politicians sassing back out of envy or jealousy, caught off-guard when they think the mike is off, or making stupid about the age and experience of opponent when the elder is a figure-head for the Oil Lobby continuing Puppet government, we need to replace with responsible policy and government for the people and by the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 08/03/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

I have no problems with the hecklers ... it's very American, unfettered banter in public! However, I find it quite interesting that Mc & his cohorts would accuse O of playing a race card!!?? Surely, if O would play a race card these wonderful bros. & sis would have no need to heckle him!?

O's ability to be a calming agent continues to impress greatly, not only did he assure the hecklers that they would get a chance to speak ... they did, and he responded substantially. Unlike Mc who clearly cannot think on his feet or off for that matter!!

Our PA poster down there offered a very nice notion ...$47 for O's 47th BD ... think I'll do just that!!! Thanks PAposter from another PAposter!! ; )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 08/03/2008
- waitforme I'm a Fan of waitforme 21 fans permalink

I saw this on television and was shocked at: "... which gives you the option of voting for somebody else..."

Instead of saying they could 'vote for somebody else', which reminded me of my rage when curt telephone customer service operators also gave me short shrift -- when I had little alternative as do these self-described 'poor blacks' who spoke out. Obama, who I desperately hope wins, could have responded with how his current ideas would in fact help to solve some of the protesters' questions. He didn't, just referred to his past actions. He does need to treat people better and think in advance how what he is offering would positively answer their concerns.

Along with being a voter, a very concerned citizen and watcher of Obama, I feel about him a bit like a mother -- he is a few years older than my own child, and I am an older white woman like his mother. He has a gap where black poor people are concerned. He also voted for the FISA bill, a wrong vote. People say he is 'moving toward the "center"' as if there is a continuum and as if there are actually people ('independent voters') IN the center. There is no continuum. There is no 'center'. There is right or wrong. A good president should always stand for justice all the time, for fairness and accountability -- all the time. Obama is in danger of losing the enthusiasm and hard work of his supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 08/03/2008
- berrycooda I'm a Fan of berrycooda 24 fans permalink

I don't know why everybody is referring to B. Obama as a black man.....

His mother was white ... his father was black...Why can't he be referred to as a white man as long as he is half and half. Why are blacks claiming him as their black messiah....
Anyway...remember, his father abandoned him when he was only two yrs old.
He was raised by white people who gave him a good education. He speaks eloquently...dresses as most politicians do...and has a lot of finesse. Some of the black brothers seem to think that he is going to go to bat for them no matter what some of them do to cause some situations.
He has already stated his feelings on black men who are not fathers to their children....and if he says too much more than that, you can be sure he will hear from a true black man called J. Jackson who plays the race card more than anyone I have heard of other than A. Sharpton...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 08/03/2008
- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

He's self-identified, which is the norm in our culture.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 08/03/2008
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You want to know why Obama referred to as a black man? When you look at him, that is what you see. Come on now. Well because if he got stopped by a cop he'd be treated as such. I would guess you've never heard of the one drop theory either right? It states that if you have ANY black blood in you, you're considered to be black.

That is why Obama is referred to as black in these here United States.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 08/04/2008
- nk007 I'm a Fan of nk007 29 fans permalink

Sam,

How come you, or CNN, did not include a video of the same protesters being offered the opportunity to ask their question, and Obama's response to the question? Again, the viewer is only offered the disruption as the only story of what went on. This is really part of media manipulation of news to highlight only the negative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 08/02/2008
- jean22 I'm a Fan of jean22 11 fans permalink

Do they think McCain would do a better job representing "Black issues"? They're either incredibly ignorant or getting paid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 08/02/2008

It's not really a matter of McCain or Obama. It's based on fear. For decades, AA's have given their nearly uniformed support for a democratic candidate. Unfortunately, it was usually done without the meticulous attention to their issues that was given to other "voting groups." It was usually done with the basic hope that at least this guy will help with AA issues. Many times the hope is misplaced. Now we have an AA candidate and while he is going to the Jewish community speaking about no retreat on Israeli-Palestinian issues, and to women's groups supporting their issues and now even Florida and Michigan courting their vote, there is a fear that they will once again misplace their loyalty to someone who will take their vote for granted--but this time it will seem worse because since he is [considered] AA, there is a sense of his turning his back rather than just ignoring, which seems so much worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 08/05/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 282 fans permalink
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Heckling of a public speaker is not the exercise of free speech, it is the shutting down of free speech. It is a coarse, disruptive behavior that hinders our nation's open expression of democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 08/02/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 242 fans permalink

O can handle heckling, as well as rave applauses ... the focus should be on how O responded ... and, did he ever ... O is a very calming agent, an agent of change (didn't ya hear) who wants to hear from the people! Those particular people wanted to be heard when they wanted to be heard ... so!? O does not need mom like protections in this regard! The struggle forward to the WH is gonna be tough ... O is indeed tough as he has said over & over again ... remember he came from Chicago's eastside!!

What should be the focus is O's ability to turn on a dime!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 08/03/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 282 fans permalink
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O did an excellent job with the hecklers. Good on him.

My point is that heckling is wrong

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 08/03/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 129 fans permalink
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Every Black person out there that felt as angry as I did about this outrageous interruption by our brothers, please send Obama $47 for his 47th birthday on Monday. These guys do not represent our points of view and we need to make that abundantly clear. And all my other beautiful brothers and sisters can join us.

Peace!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 08/02/2008

I was proud of them. You know how difficult it is to get African-Americans to be involved in almost anything. They had every right to ask this presidential front runner who looks like them to look out for them. They, we, are an essential issue here in America; poverty, sexism, police harrassment, racism, environmental racism, under representation in various area, etc, etc,
Barack Obama is a tenacious man. Incredible. He can handle himself. I have a tremendous amount of faith and trust in his ability to conduct himself accordingly, and I know he he knows what these men, our community is going through as he's still experiencing it even now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 08/02/2008

I am a black person and I can assure you that these paid off black guys DO NOT SPEAK FOR 98.5 % OF BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA.
Obama can just about say it's a done deal when it comes to blacks voting for him in Nov. We are with him, not because he's black but because he is knowledgeable with the right heart for the job!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 08/02/2008

Isaiah40j - are you sure?! You don't speak for 98.5% of black folks either. Actually - most of the 98.5% of black folks don't think alike in the first place. We are diverse!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 08/02/2008

PAposter - I am not sending Obama another dime! I am going to give my usual monthly donation to another movement that is not ashamed or afraid to represent my interests. The protestors only confirmed about I had been noticing - along with my circle of family and friends. And don't forget Jesse Jackson who had probably received a lot of complaints from others about how Obama handles AA's. Face it PAposter - Obama is losing the AA base. He has only himself to blame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 08/02/2008
- DocJerome I'm a Fan of DocJerome 22 fans permalink

Stop the misrepresentation and misinformation. You don't even know any black people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 08/03/2008
- Scarllatti I'm a Fan of Scarllatti 14 fans permalink
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What is exactly 'your interest'? Jenna 6? Jesse Jackson? This is misplaced aggression. What have you done to GWB for the 8 years that he messed you up?
Obama is not campaigning to become a civil rights president but the POTUS. You have to accept some personal responsibility and stop peddling this nonsense you describe as "AA' issues.
Until you learn to see things from a broader American perspective you will keep on hoping that the society owes you anything. Get over it. You have a choice of voting for McCain and stop disturbing my sensibility with your parochial views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 08/03/2008
- jean22 I'm a Fan of jean22 11 fans permalink

$47 for the 47th birthday is a beautiful idea.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 08/02/2008
- antworks I'm a Fan of antworks 4 fans permalink
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I'm African American. And, I am ticked off at the garbage some of our ethnic group is throwing at Senator Obama. This is my attempt to get some of you to wake up and smell the coffee, about this political campaign that COULD result in the first Black man in the Whitehouse. What are you people thinking? We comprise maybe one tenth of this entire population. Do you think that all Senator Obama has to be concerned with, or SHOULD be concerned with is US? Or, rather YOU, individually? The political reality of the electoral college as opposed to the popular vote total determining who will win this presidential campaign, rules out the possibility that only OUR vote will determine Senator Obama's fate. WAKE UP, Man! Since the beginning of this republic, only white males have occupied this office. You've seen what type of policies that has generated for our African American community. Finally, you and I have a chance (along with Senator Obama) to have someone in this office that will hopefully give competent, respectful thought to our concerns. But, until he gets elected NOTHING, I repeat NOTHING can or will happen (in my opinion) to radically change our community's condition! If Senator Obama is not elected, African Americans will see more of the same failed policies for our community and our living conditions, employment status and health will continue to get worse!! Give the man a chance, please. Stop complaining so much, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 08/02/2008
- mypov123 I'm a Fan of mypov123 23 fans permalink
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The people on this site who are complaining make it seem like it's so easy for a Black man to run for the highest office in the land, and because Obama has gained the support of many Whites, that he can say whatever he wants to about racism and injustice and White people will say, "oh yeah, he's right". If it were that easy than Obama would not be the first Black man to have a real shot at the Presidency. The problem is that, as a mixed Black man, he's trying to be all things to all people, he's being pulled in so many directions where people want to know "whose side is he on, can we trust that he'll look out for US?" I'm not saying that he's perfect or that he always takes the best approach to a situation, but he is having to walk a very fine line in terms of how he approaches issues like the Sean Bell case, for fear of alienating one group or another. He can't please everyone, and that's something that he'll have to learn deal with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 08/02/2008

mypov123 - no doubt. It is obvious that Blacks are getting the short end of the stick - period. Obama is courting other groups (Jews, Hispanics, Vets, Whites, women, etc.) but put off Blacks. Yes - he goes to Black organizations to speak. But he talks down to us, tell us how to act when he arrives. He would not dare tell Jews how to act. Obama is showing black folks better than he can tell them that he is not going to risk the votes of his other supporters by simply acknowledging our legitimate concerns and issues like he has acknowledged others. But that's okay. A lot of us are waking up and seeing Obama's hypocrisy. That's why Obama is losing black support and votes. He has only himself to blame.

Relationship Building 101: You don’t put down your friends (or base) when things are good because you will need them again when your new love sends you packing! It is not a question of if but when.

From Obama '08 to Undecided '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 08/02/2008

Get a grip. The black community is in dire straits. No other community in America is in such a bad state. Yes, much of the problem originated in racist policies and practices, but much of it is from the breakdown of values. Our grandparents' generation was much different from what the black community is like now. These horrible problems - huge drug addiction rates, huge single parent household rates, vast poverty, school drop out rates, more black men in jail than college - have to be dealt with. They are our community's MAIN issues, just like immigration is the latino community's main issue, so this is what he addresses, and imho we should be thanking god for the straight talk he gives. You can't expect anyone who is serious about making positive changes to gloss over these issues and massage your ego. He's spoken out on "black issues" far, far more than any other candidate. Are you holding McCain to the same standard? Did you hold Hillary to it? Or is just because he's black?

Please don't jump on the hater bandwagon. If this man becomes president, that fact alone will transform the lives of black people in America and around the world and do more for combatting systemic racism than 100 angry Jesses or Als could do with their protests.
He's not perfect. But he's doing something no other black person has been able to do. CUT THE MAN SOME SLACK! Or, welcome Bush III into the oval office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 08/03/2008
- mypov123 I'm a Fan of mypov123 23 fans permalink
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Vonniewit, are you aware of the many ways in which the Republicans are trying to smear this man's character? He's been called everything from a Black Militant to a Muslim terrorist to the anti-Christ. I'd like to see you deal with that on top of having to court all the different ethnic groups that exist in our country to the point that every one of them is convinced that he will look out for their interests. I know, it sounds easy, but it's actually damn near impossible. But I believe he is a more "conscious" Black person than the people who are criticizing him realize, he knows the history of Black Americans in this country and he knows the struggles and injustices that Black people continue to deal with, and he wants to make a difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 08/03/2008
- mypov123 I'm a Fan of mypov123 23 fans permalink
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What do you want him to say? That racism, oppression and exploitation against Black people throughout this nation's history by the majority group has led to the many problems that exist in the Black community? Who is the majority group? Who has held the majority of the wealth and power in this country? WHITE PEOPLE! They are watching him very closely to see "whose side is he REALLY on?", and their support will mean the difference between winning the election and having the opportunity to do what he can to address issues concerning Black Americans and problems that all Americans are facing, and not having that opportunity. Politics is a game, if you know that you aren't one of the "deadbeat fathers" that he's referring to in the Black community, then relax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 08/03/2008
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What these protesters fail to realize is that Obama wouldnt be where he is today if his agenda was based only on what the AA community needs, otherwise his campaign would be just like Jackson/Sharpton - going nowhere.
He isnt running as a black American, just an American citizen.
His issues arent just AA issues, they are all of our issues.
Nobody wants a president who is only concerned about 1 demographic.
Unless you are rich white corporation or drunken evangelical hillbilly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 08/02/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 129 fans permalink
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... now if only those idiots could read your very reasonable assessment of this process. I was not so kind in my comments, and I will not apologize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 08/02/2008

Those protesters are plants courtesy of the M c Ca in campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 08/02/2008
- sharonh I'm a Fan of sharonh 225 fans permalink
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......pants on fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 08/02/2008
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