McCain and N.Y. Times continue a long-running bout

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DEVLIN BARRETT | August 2, 2008 12:21 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — It is a tradition at many kitchen tables to yell at the newspaper. At John McCain's kitchen table, it is becoming a tradition to yell at one paper in particular: The New York Times.

The latest dustup between the Republican presidential candidate and the "All the News that's fit to Print" big-name newspaper centered on the editorial board's back-to-back criticisms of McCain, one dispatch accusing him of taking the low road and another contending that he was playing politics with race.

The second editorial, which appeared on the Times Web site, said McCain's ads conjured up loaded racial images and raised the specter of O.J. Simpson.

"The presumptive Republican nominee has embarked on a bare-knuckled barrage of negative advertising aimed at belittling Mr. Obama," the editorial board wrote.

The response from the McCain campaign was equally cutting.

"If the shareholders of The New York Times ever wonder why the paper's ad revenue is plummeting and its share price tanking, they need look no further than the hysterical reaction of the paper's editors to any slight, real or imagined, against their preferred candidate," said McCain campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb.

Goldfarb compared the editors to a blogger "sitting at home in his mother's basement and ranting into the ether between games of Dungeons & Dragons."

Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis declined to comment on Friday.

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The relationship between McCain _ a frequent reader of the newspaper _ and the Times has been rocky. Yet such a grudge could pay political dividends for the presidential candidate, as criticizing the liberal media often improves a candidate's standing with Republican Party conservatives. That's critical for McCain, who has never been their favorite.

Back in January, the Times endorsed McCain's candidacy for the Republican nomination, saying, "Sen. John McCain of Arizona is the only Republican who promises to end the George Bush style of governing from and on behalf of a small, angry fringe."

Since then, it's been McCain v. The New York Times.

In February, the newspaper printed a story about McCain and a female lobbyist, reporting that unnamed McCain associates years ago had become concerned the relationship may have become romantic. Both McCain and the lobbyist have unequivocally denied that it was, and the newspaper's editor said he was surprised at the reaction to the story.

A month later, McCain flashed his temper at a Times reporter, repeatedly cutting her off when asked whether he had spoken to Democratic Sen. John Kerry about being his vice president in 2004.

Then last month, Republicans complained that the paper rejected an Op-Ed piece by McCain about the Iraq war after one by Obama was printed and received widespread attention. The paper said it had only tried to get McCain to rewrite the piece to be more specific about his plan.

"McCain is still, I think, upset about the Op-Ed not being printed," said Mike Paul, a former aide to New York Republicans who is now a consultant.

Paul said several recent moves by McCain show the presidential candidate is consciously moving away from his role as an unconventional politician.

"A lot of the maverick positioning is now turning into more conservative positioning, and some of that includes not being afraid to go negative, not being afraid to call a liberal a liberal, and not being afraid to go after a newspaper," said Paul.

Beyond any personal pique there may be, there is a strategy to attacking the Times because it is a bogeyman of conservatives who still may not be entirely sold on the Arizona senator.

Senior advisers are fully aware that assailing the Times could help endear McCain to his talk radio skeptics and their followers.

So, they go after the newspaper often _ and send the message: McCain stands with you.

Advisers also recognize the power of the newspaper to influence how other media organizations cover the campaign, so they are aggressive in pointing out where they feel McCain was wronged.

McCain, though, is hardly the first Republican to want to tear up the paper.

Back in 1992, aides to President George H.W. Bush complained that the Times and other media outlets had mischaracterized his examination of a grocery check-out scanner by suggesting he was unfamiliar with the long-used technology and implying he was out of touch with everyday Americans' economic issues.

In the 2004 election, a conservative anti-tax group called Club for Growth ran an ad decrying Democrat Howard Dean as a "latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading" tax-raiser.

"It's not complicated," said Club for Growth spokeswoman Nachama Soloveichik. The paper, she said, "has really become a symbol for a lot of conservative grievances."

"For starters, their editorials are decidedly liberal. That's a no-brainer. And there are often complaints that even their general reporting is biased in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. The New York Times has come to be associated with the Northeast liberal establishment."

Paul, the consultant, said he thinks the McCain campaign's criticisms of the paper may look good to some but won't work in the long run.

"You might get that base, but you won't win the election," he said. "It goes back to the old saying, 'Don't throw rocks at people who own ink barrels' ... and people have gotten sick and tired of the excuse that all media is liberal."

WASHINGTON — It is a tradition at many kitchen tables to yell at the newspaper. At John McCain's kitchen table, it is becoming a tradition to yell at one paper in particular: The New York Times.
WASHINGTON — It is a tradition at many kitchen tables to yell at the newspaper. At John McCain's kitchen table, it is becoming a tradition to yell at one paper in particular: The New York Times.
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- sher2x4 I'm a Fan of sher2x4 2 fans permalink

This is the person the repugs have come up with to lead this country?

Have we all just lost our collective minds?

I wouldn't hire him to do my yard work.

Please someone help me here.
Just name five things this man has done for this country. (This Country, meaning
the general population)

And by the way bombing women and children from 20,000 ft. does not count.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/05/2008
- Fein I'm a Fan of Fein 19 fans permalink

I think the real issue is the damage that NYT did to the Neocons through exposing the Plame scandal
and all the others.

McCain doesn't have any original views. He's just a perfect 'rubber stamp' for the Neocons' vindictiveness toward any and all who 'get in their way.'

NYT's not perfect (Kristol's an 'editor', after all) & some of their articles arn't accurate. But all in all, they're the only major publication that dared to go up against the Neocon/Rove propaganda machine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 08/05/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 08/04/2008
- zenlikejen I'm a Fan of zenlikejen 19 fans permalink
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Man, that was painful to watch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 08/04/2008

HERE WE GO AGAIN........ SMOKE AND MIRRORS THAT IS THE M.O. OF THE REPUBLICANS, STAY AWAY FROM THE ISSUES,DO WHAT ROVE TELLS US TO DO, IT WORKED BEFORE IT WILL WORK AGAIN! THE TIMES IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE US FROM THE MCCAIN MUD MACHINE AND ROVE'S BRAIN, THE MEDIA DOES NOTHING, HE GETS A PASS ALL THE TIME PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE N.Y. TIMES, LA TIMES, DON'T SAVE US FROM WHAT COULD [GOD FORBID] HAPPEN, WE MUST NOT GIVE UP, WE MUST BE AS CONSISTENT WITH THE TRUTH, AND REVEAL ALL THE LIES THAT THE MCCAIN MACHINE IS SPEWING!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 08/04/2008
- hlawyer I'm a Fan of hlawyer 4 fans permalink

This has been one of the most frustrating phenomena of my life, otherwise intelligent people degrading useful media outlets for political gain, while championing organizations like FoxNews. It is to the point now where people I respect actually say that the media is liberal with a straight face. Encouraging people not to read the New York Times (or watch PBS, or listen to NPR) has made this country so stupid that we are rightfully mocked. In addition, that environment is more responsible for the election of G.W. Bush than any other factor. In an age where we have access to more information in one day than people a hundred years ago saw in their lifetimes, we have become less intellectually curious. This is the reason that Obama will not win. There is no reason for him to lose, but there was no reason for Bush to win the last two elections. People are stupid, ill-informed, and proud of it. They would rather vote with their gut than to obtain the information they need from multiple, reliable sources. They believe that the NYT is wrong about everything and Fox News is "fair and balanced". They think a Harvard-educated millionaire is just a regular guy like them. Now, they think Obama has "no ideas," that he is "playing the race card" and that he is an elitist. Truly, if you say anything enough, people will believe it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 08/04/2008

"This is the reason that Obama will not win."

I pray that you are wrong, but I fear that you may be right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 08/05/2008
- ibsteve2u I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u 132 fans permalink
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"If the shareholders of The New York Times ever wonder why the paper's ad revenue is plummeting and its share price tanking, they need look no further than the hysterical reaction of the paper's editors to any slight, real or imagined, against their preferred candidate,"

lolll...now that is a standard Republican response...just like the mortgage crisis is all the fault of a few irresponsible borrowers and soaring prices, lost jobs, and irresponsible lending have nothing to do with it, it is the editorial staff and not the internet and the other new forms of information dispersal that are impacting print journalism...

Facts so get in the way of a typical Republican argument, don't you think?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 08/04/2008
- Puller58 I'm a Fan of Puller58 9 fans permalink

This helps McCain and the NYT. McCain gets to play outraged conservative in an attempt to woo the skeptical GOP base, while the NYT sells more papers as people try to figure out what the fuss is about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 08/04/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 48 fans permalink

This is my third try to respond to flag. Flag, sounds like you bought the Fixed news perspective. Thing is, Gore is an intelligent man with good judgment unlike the fool who did get in. Sounds like you didn't hear about the lying about Iraq WMD, followed by incompetence in Iraq, Afghanistan, New Orleans, paying off the wealthy, sending jobs out of the country, deregulation which caused the mortgage collapse and the swindling in the credit system at large, Abramoff, Bush buddy, swindling the native american casinos, Rove outing Plame, torturing and I could go on, and you are worried about what Gore might have done? Pick McCain now and you will be consistent. And while Bush, McCain will deny environmental problems, without sustainable energy, there will be no future economy or any future period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/04/2008
- HopeGirl I'm a Fan of HopeGirl 25 fans permalink

Wasn't it the NYT's that gave McMoleFace a pass of the trashy girlfriend. I hope grandpa keeps wagging his finger at them-may be it will inspire them to stop cowering and start doing their job.

One could hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 08/03/2008

An old saw in leagal circles which applies here

When the facts are with you.......pound on the facts
When the law is with you...........pound on the law
When neither the facts OR the law are with you............
Pound on the table

tm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 08/03/2008
- jupitor I'm a Fan of jupitor 2 fans permalink

Every body buy out the New York Time as long as they have the guts to keep telling the trueth!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 08/03/2008
- Leota2 I'm a Fan of Leota2 8 fans permalink

The Times endorsed McClueless. McClueless bitchslaps them daily. They deserve each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 08/03/2008
- sammy333 I'm a Fan of sammy333 4 fans permalink

NYT should be an internal publication for the neoconservatives. Kristol (the main "liberal") is there to orchestrate the deceptive moves. Of course, it works only If they care to buy multiple copies of it, followed by the puchasing the products of the NYT donors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 08/03/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 88 fans permalink

We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors who have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years.

It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the likes of publicity during those years. But now, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government.

The supra national soveriengty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centries.

David Rockefeller
Private Banker
Council on Foreign Relations
June 1991

The above was a "thank you" to the media (all were not mentioned however) for keeping the secrets of the New World Order under wraps for 40+ years and that was in 1991. It's over 50 years now. And you wonder why you get no CORRECT information from your media. This should surely open your eyes.

For more, check out the video below. When you realize that you are just a "stone's throw" away from a prison camp, maybe you'll finally WAKE UP! FASCISM in all it's glory is what the rethugs want for all Americans and your current president wants to be a "dicktator".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KO1GouPat8

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 08/03/2008

All this fuss is doing is given the Arizona Senator free publicity. In the end whether or not he's elected he will give interviews to the NYT and any other media outlet when requested because it wil get his message out there. NYT will let these comment role off it's back like water off a duck's back. It's part of the political biz and the newspaper biz. It creates a buzz.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 08/03/2008
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You are so right. McCain is railing against NYP and calling Obama the Anti-Christ and getting past the fact that he can't pull the megabucks that Obama is managing by getting the free publicity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 08/03/2008

"Goldfarb compared the editors to a blogger "sitting at home in his mother's basement and ranting into the ether between games of Dungeons & Dragons." A month later, McCain flashed his temper at a Times reporter, repeatedly cutting her off when asked whether he had spoken to Democratic Sen. John Kerry about being his vice president in 2004. Then last month, Republicans complained that the paper rejected an Op-Ed piece by McCain about the Iraq war after one by Obama was printed and received widespread attention. The paper said it had only tried to get McCain to rewrite the piece to be more specific about his plan".

"McCain is still, I think, upset about the Op-Ed not being printed," said Mike Paul, a former aide to New York Republicans who is now a consultant.

We can't afford McCain's spoiled child, playground bully, loose cannon, point the finger to avoid taking responsibility for the core issues, you are either with me or against me mentality as President. We can't afford it, especially when those traits are combined with him fighting memory loss issues. Although I don't believe the memory loss is within his control as sometimes these things happen . . . but with the combination of traits he has displayed, a vote for McCain as President would get us all screwed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 08/03/2008
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