McCain and N.Y. Times continue a long-running bout

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DEVLIN BARRETT | August 2, 2008 12:21 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — It is a tradition at many kitchen tables to yell at the newspaper. At John McCain's kitchen table, it is becoming a tradition to yell at one paper in particular: The New York Times.

The latest dustup between the Republican presidential candidate and the "All the News that's fit to Print" big-name newspaper centered on the editorial board's back-to-back criticisms of McCain, one dispatch accusing him of taking the low road and another contending that he was playing politics with race.

The second editorial, which appeared on the Times Web site, said McCain's ads conjured up loaded racial images and raised the specter of O.J. Simpson.

"The presumptive Republican nominee has embarked on a bare-knuckled barrage of negative advertising aimed at belittling Mr. Obama," the editorial board wrote.

The response from the McCain campaign was equally cutting.

"If the shareholders of The New York Times ever wonder why the paper's ad revenue is plummeting and its share price tanking, they need look no further than the hysterical reaction of the paper's editors to any slight, real or imagined, against their preferred candidate," said McCain campaign spokesman Michael Goldfarb.

Goldfarb compared the editors to a blogger "sitting at home in his mother's basement and ranting into the ether between games of Dungeons & Dragons."

Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis declined to comment on Friday.

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The relationship between McCain _ a frequent reader of the newspaper _ and the Times has been rocky. Yet such a grudge could pay political dividends for the presidential candidate, as criticizing the liberal media often improves a candidate's standing with Republican Party conservatives. That's critical for McCain, who has never been their favorite.

Back in January, the Times endorsed McCain's candidacy for the Republican nomination, saying, "Sen. John McCain of Arizona is the only Republican who promises to end the George Bush style of governing from and on behalf of a small, angry fringe."

Since then, it's been McCain v. The New York Times.

In February, the newspaper printed a story about McCain and a female lobbyist, reporting that unnamed McCain associates years ago had become concerned the relationship may have become romantic. Both McCain and the lobbyist have unequivocally denied that it was, and the newspaper's editor said he was surprised at the reaction to the story.

A month later, McCain flashed his temper at a Times reporter, repeatedly cutting her off when asked whether he had spoken to Democratic Sen. John Kerry about being his vice president in 2004.

Then last month, Republicans complained that the paper rejected an Op-Ed piece by McCain about the Iraq war after one by Obama was printed and received widespread attention. The paper said it had only tried to get McCain to rewrite the piece to be more specific about his plan.

"McCain is still, I think, upset about the Op-Ed not being printed," said Mike Paul, a former aide to New York Republicans who is now a consultant.

Paul said several recent moves by McCain show the presidential candidate is consciously moving away from his role as an unconventional politician.

"A lot of the maverick positioning is now turning into more conservative positioning, and some of that includes not being afraid to go negative, not being afraid to call a liberal a liberal, and not being afraid to go after a newspaper," said Paul.

Beyond any personal pique there may be, there is a strategy to attacking the Times because it is a bogeyman of conservatives who still may not be entirely sold on the Arizona senator.

Senior advisers are fully aware that assailing the Times could help endear McCain to his talk radio skeptics and their followers.

So, they go after the newspaper often _ and send the message: McCain stands with you.

Advisers also recognize the power of the newspaper to influence how other media organizations cover the campaign, so they are aggressive in pointing out where they feel McCain was wronged.

McCain, though, is hardly the first Republican to want to tear up the paper.

Back in 1992, aides to President George H.W. Bush complained that the Times and other media outlets had mischaracterized his examination of a grocery check-out scanner by suggesting he was unfamiliar with the long-used technology and implying he was out of touch with everyday Americans' economic issues.

In the 2004 election, a conservative anti-tax group called Club for Growth ran an ad decrying Democrat Howard Dean as a "latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving, New York Times-reading" tax-raiser.

"It's not complicated," said Club for Growth spokeswoman Nachama Soloveichik. The paper, she said, "has really become a symbol for a lot of conservative grievances."

"For starters, their editorials are decidedly liberal. That's a no-brainer. And there are often complaints that even their general reporting is biased in subtle and not-so-subtle ways. The New York Times has come to be associated with the Northeast liberal establishment."

Paul, the consultant, said he thinks the McCain campaign's criticisms of the paper may look good to some but won't work in the long run.

"You might get that base, but you won't win the election," he said. "It goes back to the old saying, 'Don't throw rocks at people who own ink barrels' ... and people have gotten sick and tired of the excuse that all media is liberal."

WASHINGTON — It is a tradition at many kitchen tables to yell at the newspaper. At John McCain's kitchen table, it is becoming a tradition to yell at one paper in particular: The New York Times.
WASHINGTON — It is a tradition at many kitchen tables to yell at the newspaper. At John McCain's kitchen table, it is becoming a tradition to yell at one paper in particular: The New York Times.
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Can't blame him for having it in for the Times -- they print a rumor that didn't have enough legs for the National Enquirer and ignore Edwards caught at 2 am with a mistress . . .

Time for the times to go the way of the dinosaur anyway, a megaphone for Move On is simply not needed anymore.

They do some good book reviews from time to time:

http://www.amazon.com/Are-Ones-Have-Been-Waiting/dp/1595581375

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 08/02/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 58 fans permalink

Flag, looks like you and Brad have gotten addicted to Hannity/Limbaugh and corruption. Are you really better off after 8 years of Bush and really want four more of oil company sponsored government?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 08/02/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 234 fans permalink
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so nder co mm a n do

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 08/02/2008
- CindyM2008 I'm a Fan of CindyM2008 9 fans permalink
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The Times did an awful job in not challenging the run up for the B ush/McSame war. That darn libral media!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 08/02/2008
- neesy08 I'm a Fan of neesy08 20 fans permalink
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rumors, huh? like the ones about obama being muslim, hating his country, not born in this country (neither was mccain). am i suppose to weep?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 08/02/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 326 fans permalink
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Time to go back to your cave troller

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 08/02/2008

Mac 44% O 44% and mac is running a pathetic campaign, I guess every one does not think as highly of O as he thinks of himself. O messiah sermons only work with his followers, O better figure that out real soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 08/02/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

O, Mac off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 08/02/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 280 fans permalink
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Big Yawn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 08/02/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 58 fans permalink

They are his "followers" because they think he has good ideas and he isn't corrupt like Mc is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 08/02/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 234 fans permalink
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Speaking of neandertha­ls.......L­ook everyone, here's brad!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 08/02/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 326 fans permalink
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What has a neanderthal ever done to you? Comparing him to Brat, really, now you to apologize to every neanderthal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 08/02/2008
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My guess is good ol' brad thinks man and dinosaurs inhabited the Earth at the same time and that he would soundly reject the idea of an evolutionary creature called "neanderth­al"......b­ut I love your post!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 08/02/2008

Be happy for now, And let's see if you've the guts to post your garbage with this screen name after the debates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 08/02/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

If anyone here was McCain they would be angry at the NYT too. Remember that story about 3 months ago that suggested McCain had an affair but the story had no evidence and only anonymous sources? Nothing ever came of it but they for some reason went with a story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 08/02/2008
- roshni I'm a Fan of roshni 179 fans permalink

The only thing they did wrong was to let the story go. They should have followed up and exposed McCain for the two-timing liar and cheater that he has always been.
Maybe they'll follow up now. One can only hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 08/03/2008
- JackND I'm a Fan of JackND 28 fans permalink

Isn't Goldfarb a Mc'Cain blogger?

Apparently he lives in a glass house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 08/02/2008
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In the basement of his mom's glass house would be my guess ... with a room full of unusually shaped dice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 08/02/2008
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People who live in SEVEN glass houses shouldn't throw stones....­..........­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 08/02/2008
- mairs I'm a Fan of mairs 229 fans permalink
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I'd walk a mile in his shoes though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 08/02/2008
- suzyku I'm a Fan of suzyku 6 fans permalink

The NY Times is absolutely CORRECT ABOUT MCSAME!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 08/02/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

I think the part that shows the Repulsive tactics this year is the fact that G oldfarb is ranting about bloggers when he IS a blogger. of course he's soooo Repulsive that no one will play D&D with him so he continues his jealous rants while his mother yells at him to mow the freaking lawn all ready.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 08/02/2008
- rshrink I'm a Fan of rshrink 58 fans permalink

Maybe, just maybe, wisely, the New York Times just doesn't want four more years of Bush/corrupt type policies. Maybe they think it is past time to start actually trying to fix some serious problems and it is more likely that Obama will do that than Mc. If so, I think they are right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 08/02/2008
- aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 55 fans permalink

I would love to find out that their subscription base has doubled due to McCranks remarks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 08/02/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

Impossible but you can dream, the NYT has been sinking for awhile now and there stock price is also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 08/02/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 234 fans permalink
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you won't find much sympathy for the nyt, with THIS poster. But, please....­. continue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 08/02/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

All newspapers have been sinking forever. The internet and their own stupidity have contributed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 08/02/2008
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The McCain camp can't even come up with any new lies to spread about Obama, So they move on to the press.
What a pitiful excuse for a campaign.
Keep it up Johnny. YOU will put Obama in the White House

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 08/02/2008
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"I'm PortaJohn, and I along with my split personality and the seventeen voices in my head at any given time approve this message...­...."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 08/02/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

McSybil?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 08/02/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

LOL! How long before the "e-censors" discover that nugget?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 08/02/2008
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McFunny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 08/02/2008

LOL.......­... that's pretty good......­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 08/02/2008
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Funny, the NYT doesn't seem that liberal to me. I've read more negative pieces about O'bama on the NYT than in others I can recall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 08/02/2008
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I agree, wholeheartedly.

If it quacks, like a duck...one squeak doesn't turn it into a mouse.

Most of their relevant stories are buried in the back pages, anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 08/02/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

After pushing for the invasion of I raq, the NYT developed a nasty habit of burying bad "news" from the front way in the back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 08/02/2008
- escobar I'm a Fan of escobar 18 fans permalink

I totally agree with you!
If NYT were so leftist, perhaps they would try to increase readership with an examination of the McCain links to Charles Keating as well as the problems he and the wife have had paying taxes on their mansions.
The NYT could investigate the McCains and other Republicans for their off-shore accounts, fraud, and links to criminals but they keep it very superficial and "Headline news" light for good reason.
They sure wasted a lot of ink on the stupid Clinton real estate deal.
The NYT isn't a liberal paper at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 08/02/2008
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They're losing money because intelligent people don't want to read pieces by Bill Kristol. That just added insult to the injury of Judith Miller.

Too bad. It was a great paper at one time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 08/02/2008
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The average age of newspaper reader is 56 years old. The NYT grade-level readability average has dropped from a 12th grade level in 2002 to the 6th grade level in 2008.

The Journal of Organizational Culture, Communications and Conflict
www.alliedacademies.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 08/02/2008
- init I'm a Fan of init 3 fans permalink

The most that the New York Times and John McCain can HOPE for is the old and the outdated. Someone has completely taken down Raw story. I believe this is the beginning of destroying the Internet. We have an election in what 4 months? WTF? Leaving where?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 08/02/2008
- manndan I'm a Fan of manndan 11 fans permalink

John, newspapers are tanking. Not just the Times. Have you heard about that internet's thing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 08/02/2008
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I'm not sure Goldfarb's comment about Dungeons & Dragons is a wise tactic. It could alienate the D&D player demographic, and the Republicans are going to need voters who are accustomed to living in a fantasy world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 08/02/2008
- Podewumun I'm a Fan of Podewumun 32 fans permalink

Dungeons & Dragons? Wasn't that popular during the same time frame as that enormous cell phone Mc Cranky was photographed holding last week? Like twenty years ago? lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 08/02/2008
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Your a bit behind the times sweetie. It still IS popular among people who don't wish to live in a fantasy world in real life. (You know, like Jr's brain.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 08/02/2008
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You guys kill me.....alw­ays reinventing the wheel...I played d and d back in 1976.

People actually had lives and communicated--read books---talked to eachother and played board games back in the "olden days" 1970's. Why we even paid money and walked to see movies in real theatres with really crappy coffee in the lobby for a 25 cents.

If you want to learn more about D and D here is the link to their home page...but be careful you need ti use your imagination no electricity required.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/welcome

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 08/02/2008

D&D is from the 70's......­.... yikes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 08/02/2008
- AMJordan I'm a Fan of AMJordan 27 fans permalink

The D&D demographic includes military people, professional people and ordinary people. Of course these are the guys who play it quietly and don't run around in costume but then a lot of football fans quietly watch the game and aren't wearing body paint and no shirt in -30 degree weather in Wisconsin either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 08/02/2008

I have to agree with McCain I have not bought a copy of the NY times since the day they hired Bill (wrong about everything) Kristol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 08/02/2008
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