Oil Prices Drop On Predictions Of Lower Demand

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MADLEN READ | August 5, 2008 04:24 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — Oil traders sent crude prices tumbling as low as $118 a barrel Tuesday on the growing belief that a U.S. economic slowdown and high energy costs are curbing consumer demand for gasoline and other petroleum products.

Crude oil finished the day just above $119 a barrel _ its lowest settlement price since early May.

Crude's decline is giving Americans more relief at the pump. A gallon of regular gasoline on average fell another penny overnight to $3.871, according to auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express. Gas prices have fallen four straight weeks for the first time since December; prices are off 5.9 percent from their July high as U.S. motorists cut back on their driving to save money.

A day after plunging as much as $5 a barrel in a dramatic sell-off, crude continued its downward trend. Gasoline and heating oil prices also fell, while natural gas ended unchanged after Monday's steep drop.

Light, sweet crude for September delivery fell $2.24 to settle at $119.17 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, the lowest close since May 2. During trading, the contract dipped to $118 _ nearly $30 below the trading high of $147.27 reached July 11.

"The market psychology has finally shifted," said Stephen Schork, an analyst and trader in Villanova, Pa., adding that "$4-a-gallon gasoline has clearly killed demand."

Some analysts say oil has the potential to jump back up.

There are many factors that could keep oil from descending further, said Mike Fitzpatrick, vice president of energy and risk management at MF Global LLC. Those include political tensions in Nigeria and the Middle East, the potential for a big hurricane along the Gulf Coast, and global demand that is still growing _ just not at the same pace that it had been.

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"Even if it seems as though China's economic demand run has slowed some, those changes at the margins still make them a huge consumer of crude products," Fitzpatrick said.

Still, the Federal Reserve, which issued an economic assessment statement along with its decision to keep interest rates stable, said that along with tight credit and the housing contraction, "elevated energy prices are likely to weigh on economic growth over the next few quarters."

The dollar's six-week highs against the euro also contributed to oil's decline Tuesday. The euro fell to $1.5464 from the $1.5587 it bought late in New York trading Monday, making oil and other commodities less attractive to investors seeking a hedge against inflation and dollar weakness.

Natural gas futures finished unchanged at $8.726 per 1,000 cubic feet, after swinging into positive and negative territory during trading. On Monday, natural gas plunged 66.3 cents, or 7 percent, to $8.726 per 1,000 cubic feet, its lowest level in nearly six months. Prices have closed lower in eight of the last 11 sessions and dropped 36 percent from the contract's all-time trading high of $13.752, reached July 2.

The pullback is double the size of crude's recent slide. That has fed speculation on Wall Street that a large hedge fund or something like it may be near collapse and has dumped a vast amount of natural gas contracts to free up cash. Last month, SemGroup LP, based in Tulsa, Okla., folded after losing $2.4 billion in bad bets on oil futures. SemGroup's collapse came amid a massive sell off in the oil market.

"Anytime you get that kind of violent price action in a short amount of time, it reeks of someone big being in trouble," Schork said.

Investors on Tuesday ignored continued tension over Iran's nuclear program. Representatives of the five permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and Germany agreed Monday to seek new sanctions against Iran after the country failed to meet a weekend deadline to respond to an offer intended to defuse the dispute, State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said.

In other Nymex trading, heating oil futures fell 6.81 cents to settle at $3.2820 a gallon, while gasoline prices dropped 4.38 cents to settle at $2.9564 a gallon.

In London, September Brent crude fell $2.98 to settle at $117.70 a barrel.

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Associated Press writers Stevenson Jacobs in New York, Pablo Gorondi in Budapest, Hungary and Alex Kennedy in Singapore contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — Oil traders sent crude prices tumbling as low as $118 a barrel Tuesday on the growing belief that a U.S. economic slowdown and high energy costs are curbing consumer demand for gasoli...
NEW YORK — Oil traders sent crude prices tumbling as low as $118 a barrel Tuesday on the growing belief that a U.S. economic slowdown and high energy costs are curbing consumer demand for gasoli...
 
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I bet we find out the reason for the Stock Market rally the last few days relates to speculators bailing on oil investment. It's not that there is any upside to the stock market currently ... it's just with dollar devaluation, and bond stagnancy, there isn't anywhere left to go.

Yeah ... it's going to get interesting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 08/07/2008

of course the market will go up......less energy pressure on business.......costs go down, profit goes up the stock price goes up.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 08/07/2008
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Energy Pressure is the least of Business' worries ... I assure you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 PM on 08/07/2008

The price went down because demand did. This is destroying the economy, the low interest rates and the bailing out of companies is making things volatile. You can have market rallies in a depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 08/07/2008

we are not in a depression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 08/07/2008

Ya think huh. Well you will see it soon enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 08/07/2008
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This same thing happened before the last election

the one that got us G.W.B.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 08/06/2008

I say continue with the pressure, keep taking the public transportation, stay at home and have family time, and yes keep your tire inflated. Watch the gas prices continue to fall. I think a reasonable price should be $1.50 maximum. Even after that drop we should still keep the pressure on to take our dependency off of foreign oil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 08/06/2008

Just because you think that $1.50/gallon is a reasonable price does not make it so. And it does, for sure not relieve our dependence on oil. That will grow for several more years as domestic oil production continues to decline faster than we can, on average, implement conservation measures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 08/06/2008

Gas prices are a little high.........but i will drive whenever and wherever i want.........gas will have to double before I am willing to change my driving habits.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 08/07/2008
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Ok then, Where is our nearly 20% drop in gas prices at the pump?
Crude was 20% higher a few weeks ago and the price at my gas station was 3.98.
now crude is 20% lower and my price is 3.74 - that is off by at least 60 cents....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 08/06/2008

Hopefully nowhere. If the gas price drops by 20%, you will see a million Americans go out and buy a Hummer the next day.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 08/06/2008

Could this have something to do with the saudi's increasing oil production?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 08/06/2008

Unlikely. That increase was mostly rhetoric. However, the demand destruction in the US was real. It's still the same... the scissors between supply and demand have opened a little bit. Just enough to make the optimists feel foolish, again, and buy that SUV they were holding back on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 08/06/2008

world oil production has been mostly flat since 2005
while demand has been rising
of course it rises more during summer driving season
and rises less when fewer people are on the road
but anyone who has been looking at the trend over the last four or five years knows what's really going on
each year's low in gas prices is higher then the previous year's
and each years high in gas prices is higher then the previous year

this is not over
and next year will be worse no matter who wins

the only answer is for us to change our habits
it doesn't matter whether we want change or not, we have no choice

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 08/06/2008

You are conflating two commodities. You are confusing gasoline with Crude Oil, Oil goes up in the winter normally because most of the world lives above the equator and they use more oil to heat their homes. etc,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 08/06/2008

I knew my properly inflated tires would eventually have an affect. Now watch what happens to the price after I tune it up this weekend!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 08/06/2008

Great.

Can we finally retire the grotesque lie that the purely symbolic, utterly political lift of the presidential ban on off-shore drilling has cause the price of oil to drop??

Thanks...now let's move on to bigger problems, like how we can prevent thousands of people freezing to death this winter because they can't pay their home heating bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 08/06/2008
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I guess this shows that speculation was certainly an important part of the run up in fuel costs. let's see is costs at the consumer level drop as precipitously. i'm betting: NO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 08/06/2008

Actually, it doesn't. It indeed does show how sensitive price is to the difference between supply and demand. But you can imagine anything you like. It's a free country and any religion that does not violate the rights of others is free to practice. So if you like to chant "Evil speculators! Evil speculators!", that's fine, too.

In the meantime empiricists like me wait for the winter heating oil buying frenzy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 08/06/2008
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i said, "part of the run up." mostly, i believe the weak dollar is the culprit. also, i said, "speculation." not "evil speculation." i don't believe that between monday and tuesday there was any GREAT decrease in oil consumption. But Hell, it's a free country and any religion that does not violate the rights of others is free to practice. I know that doesn't make any sense. mr. messenger. please read the message more carefully.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 08/06/2008

Oil is going down because the big bad speculators are moving out.

Demand from China and India won't save the day because their economies depend on the US, and we are coming unglued.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 08/05/2008

You are assuming that oil supply will stay constant. But it won't. Oil producing countries are peaking as we speak and soon KSA will be one of them. After that we will see an end run for an ever decreasing supply.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 08/06/2008

Many countries have seen declining production and reserves, but there is a tremendous amount of oil in the US oil shale, more than in all of Saudi Arabia - so the peak oil theory is out of the window for a long time yet. As far as the recent drop in oil price, recent economic indexes-surveys showed the world is currently in recession for the first time since early 2003; and that is very bearish for oil oil prices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 08/06/2008


Lower Oil Prices (for awhile)--Yeah, summer driving over blah blah blah...
Peace in Palestine (or, almost...)
Winning in Iraq (Love that Surge)
Employment up (at McDonalds and WalMart)
Stock Market RE-Regulation (we're tough on white collar crime!)
A Red White and Blue Olympics with much Patriotic Grandstanding (see how we pull together!)
A large terrorist threat (just to remind us we need a Big Daddy in DC)
And, the Swiftboating of Obama by the MSM (we told you he was....)

Gee, did I miss any of Karl Rove's plays for this coming Fall? Anyone care to add?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 08/05/2008

An stocks are up over 300 points!!! And would you hear a peep in this post, no! Imagine if it were down 300!! It will be headline. The fact is Obama has staked his fortune to negative news. Any positive news is not good for his chances!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 08/05/2008

Someone is feeling fuzzy today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 08/06/2008

I thought it was the GOP Congressional protest that lowered the prices? At least the GOP congressional delegation is taking credit for it.

WOW! What balls!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 08/05/2008

And still, my gas is 4.34 a gallon for premium. Same as when it was 147 a barrel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 08/05/2008

I've noticed the same thing. We experienced daily upticks in prices at the pump as the cost of a barrel increased, so why are we not experiencing daily downturns in prices at the pump as cost-per-barrel decreases? (I'm being a bit facetious because I fully expected this. But I *would* like an explanation!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 08/05/2008

This is because gas stations delay decreasing the price to recoup all the money they lost when oil/wholesale gasoline prices were going up. Most people don't realize that gas stations often lose money selling gas when oil prices go up. Conversely, they make more money when oil prices go down. It has always been this way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 08/05/2008

Why are you driving a car that only takes premium gas?? You must be one of those rich liberals!!! Regular gas is down quite a bit but premium gas is down less. They are taxing the rich like Obama plans to do. You should be happy!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 08/05/2008

For most vehicles, premium gas is a waste of money.
http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/transportation/consumer_tips/regular_vs_premium.html

Regular is $3.60 where I live. It topped out at $4.05

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 08/05/2008

Obviously not California where we are still being punished for voting Democrat in the Presidential races of 2000 and 2004. Ports and Refineries galore, easy access, great freeways to truck it on and no lines no waiting anywhere along the chain.

Regular was $4.21 yesterday despite the so-called price decrease. Go figure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 08/05/2008

Wait until after the election . Then you will really have something to cry about .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 AM on 08/06/2008
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