Russia vs Georgia: Outbreak Of Hostilities After Georgia Tries To Regain Breakaway Province

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MUSA SADULAYEV | August 8, 2008 11:44 PM EST | AP

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In this image, made from television, Russian military vehicles are moving towards the breakaway South Ossetia republic's capital, Tskhinvali, on Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. Russia's Defense Ministry says it has sent reinforcements to its peacekeepers deployed to South Ossetia to help end bloodshed. Georgian officials confirmed that the Russian convoy had crossed the border and was advancing toward Tskhinvali. Georgia launched a massive attack Friday to regain control over South Ossetia, using heavy artillery, aircraft and armor. South Ossetian officials said at least 15 people were killed Friday and an unspecified number were wounded. (AP Photo/APTN)

DZHAVA, Georgia — Russia sent an armored column into the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia after Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched an offensive to crush separatists. Georgia reported early Saturday that warplanes attacked three of its bases and some key oil facilities.

Witnesses said hundreds of civilians have died in the fighting, which threatened to ignite a wider war between Georgia and Russia and escalate tensions between Moscow and Washington.

Georgia said it was forced to launch the assault because of rebel attacks; the separatists alleged Georgia violated a cease-fire.

The South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali was reportedly devastated. Ossetia spokeswoman Irina Gagloyeva said the city came under prolonged fire during the night "but it was suppressed" by the armed forces, the Interfax news agency quoted her as saying Saturday.

"I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars," said Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who had fled with her family to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia. "It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged."

The fighting broke out as much of the world's attention was focused on the start of the Olympic Games and many leaders, including Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Bush, were in Beijing.

The timing suggested Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili may have been counting on surprise to fulfill his longtime pledge to wrest back control of South Ossetia _ a key to his hold on power. The rebels seek to unite with North Ossetia, which is part of Russia.

Saakashvili agreed the timing was not coincidental, but accused Russia of being the aggressor. "Most decision makers have gone for the holidays," he told CNN. "Brilliant moment to attack a small country."

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Seeking to prevent an all-out war, diplomats issued a flurry of statements calling on both sides to halt the fighting. The U.N. Security Council held two tense emergency sessions 12 hours apart with both sides using the forum to launch accusations. As the meeting recessed, officials promised a third council session Saturday.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged Russia to halt aircraft and missile attacks and withdraw combat forces from Georgian territory. Rice said in a statement the United States wants Russia to respect Georgian sovereignty and agree to international mediation.

The leader of South Ossetia's rebel government, Eduard Kokoity, said about 1,400 people were killed in the onslaught, the Interfax news agency reported. The toll could not be independently confirmed.

As night fell, there were conflicting claims as to who held the battlefield advantage.

Saakashvili said "Georgian military forces completely control all the territory of South Ossetia" except for a northern section adjacent to Russia. But Russian news agencies cited a Russian military official as saying heavy fighting was under way on the outskirts of the regional capital.

Early Saturday, Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said the Vaziani military base on the outskirts of the Georgian capital was bombed by warplanes during the night and that bombs fell in the area of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline. He also said two other Georgian military bases were hit and that warplanes bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility.

Utiashvili said there apparently were significant casualties and damage in the attacks, but that further details would not be known until the morning.

Earlier, Georgia's Foreign Ministry accused Russian aircraft of bombing two military air bases, inflicting some casualties and destroying several military aircraft. Rustavi 2 television said four people were killed and five wounded at the Marneuli air base.

Twelve Russian troops were killed and 30 wounded in the fighting, said Russian Ground Forces spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov. Saakashvili said late Friday that about 30 Georgians had been killed "mainly members of the Georgian armed forces."

It was unclear what might persuade either side to stop shooting. Both claim the battle started after the other side violated a cease-fire that had been declared just hours earlier after a week of sporadic clashes.

The United States was sending in its top Caucasus envoy, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza, to try to end the bloodshed.

It was the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won de facto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992. Russian troops went in as peacekeepers but Georgia alleges they now back the separatists.

Russia, which has granted citizenship to most of the region's residents, appeared to lay much of the responsibility for ending the fighting on Washington.

In a telephone conversation with Rice, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Georgia must be convinced to withdraw its forces, according to a ministry statement.

Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership _ a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region.

Saakashvili long has pledged to restore Tbilisi's rule over South Ossetia and another breakaway province, Abkhazia. Both regions have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and have built up ties with Moscow.

Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili told CNN the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting.

A senior U.S. defense official said Georgian authorities have asked the United States for help getting their troops out of Iraq. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions have been private, said no formal decision has been made on whether to support the departure, but said it is likely the U.S. will do so.

Also, Pentagon officials said Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has reached out to his counterparts in Russia and Georgia, but has not yet connected with them.

Russia's Defense Ministry said it was sending in reinforcements for its troops in the province, and Russian state television and Georgian officials reported a convoy of tanks had crossed the border. The convoy was expected to reach the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, by evening, Channel One television said.

Putin warned in the early stages of the conflict that the Georgian attack would draw retaliation and the Defense Ministry pledged to protect South Ossetians, most of whom have Russian citizenship.

Chairing a session of his Security Council in the Kremlin, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev also vowed that Moscow will protect Russian citizens.

"In accordance with the constitution and federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Medvedev said. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished."

On Friday, an AP reporter saw tanks and other heavy weapons concentrating on the Russian side of the border with South Ossetia _ supporting the reports of an incursion. Some villagers were fleeing into Russia.

The Georgian state minister for reintegration, Temur Yakobashvili, said Georgian forces had shot down four Russian combat planes over Georgian territory but gave no details. Russia's Defense Ministry denied an earlier Georgia report about one Russian plane downed and had no immediate comment on the latest claim.

Yakobashvili said one Russian plane had dropped a bomb on the Vaziani military base near the Georgian capital, but no one was hurt. More than 1,000 U.S. Marines and soldiers were at the base last month to teach combat skills to Georgian troops.

South Ossetia officials said Georgia attacked with aircraft, armor and heavy artillery. Georgian troops fired missiles at Tskhinvali, an official said, and many buildings were on fire.

Georgia's president said Russian aircraft bombed several Georgian villages and other civilian facilities.

A senior Russian diplomat in charge of the South Ossetian conflict, Yuri Popov, dismissed the Georgian claims of Russian bombings as misinformation, the RIA-Novosti news agency reported.

The Georgian attack came just hours after Saakashvili announced a unilateral cease-fire in a television broadcast late Thursday in which he also urged South Ossetian separatist leaders to enter talks on resolving the conflict.

Georgian officials later blamed South Ossetian separatists for thwarting the cease-fire by shelling Georgian villages in the area.

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Associated Press writers Misha Dzhindzhikhashvili in Tbilisi, Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report.

DZHAVA, Georgia — Russia sent an armored column into the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia after Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched an offensive to crush separatists. Georgia reported early...
DZHAVA, Georgia — Russia sent an armored column into the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia after Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched an offensive to crush separatists. Georgia reported early...
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South Ossetia? Is that in Narnia or in Middle-Earth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 08/08/2008

If this gets anyworse you will have to open a book and get real familiar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 08/08/2008

Is this gets worse we won't have to open any books in order to gain familiarity with Georgia. It will either be there or be obliterated by the Russians while the rest of the world stands by and let's it happen. Something has to be done to bring about a cease fire before it's too late. Otherwise, it could involve a lot of other countries including the US.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 08/08/2008

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As usual it's hard to say what's really happening.

Certainly the Georgians have wanted S Ossetia back. But the Russians are known to go through elaborate psy ops to provoke and/or simulate acts of aggression.

It's one of their "things". Like the sorority chick who crinkles her nose when she laughs. (Swarms of cruise missles is one of our "things".)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 08/08/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 08/08/2008

Perhaps the Resident should pull Pootie Poot aside and gaze into his eyes again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 08/08/2008

He is no longer the head honcho. He has a nother post in the government

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 08/08/2008

Which he had to assume because of the Russian Constitution.

Do you honestly think that he gave up power?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 08/08/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

Shades of WWI.

Russia mobilizes to protect a minority population of a state under attack.

Georgia plays Austria-Hungary to South Ossetia's Serbia.

To paraphrase Bismark: South Ossetia isn't worth the bones of a single US Marine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 08/08/2008
- wkitwizard I'm a Fan of wkitwizard 4 fans permalink

America is STUCK in Iraq-nam. America is STUCK in Afghanistan. Our military is toast.
That's why you'll see Russia and China DO WHAT IT LIKES for the rest of the decade ahead.
USA is now underdog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 08/08/2008

is this another us intelligence blunder?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 08/08/2008

The US has been trying to deescalate tensions in this region for sometime. On 7/14/08 the US raised questions regarding Russia's role as a "peace keeper" in the area. I don't think that this is an intelligence failure. It was a surprise to everyone except the Georgians and for the Russians who were pushing for a confrontation. Did you see how fast they had their troops there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 08/08/2008

This is unfortunate and sad for humanity.
However, is happening for the same reasons we attacked the little island of Granada during Reagan, and bombarded Panama city during Bush 1. Who can blame Russia now for attacking Georgia, trying to bring NATO on their doorstep??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 08/08/2008
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 212 fans permalink
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Good point. You don't back the Russian Bear against the wall and expect him to act like Gentle Ben. How would we like a formal Russian ally on our border? That's how EZ it is to know how destabilizing that move was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 08/08/2008

Magister Ludi...thi­s is the MOST posts I have seen from you on ANY topic. As I respect your point of view,are you from the region? What is your personal interest here? Just curious!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 08/08/2008
- drolleen I'm a Fan of drolleen 2 fans permalink

The Georgian attack is incredibly similar to the 2006 summer war between Israel and Hizzbullah, and the Iraq war. The Bush administration is experimenting. Iraq was to show that countries armed with old soviet equipment can be easily overwhelmed. Bush pushed Israel to fight the Iran trained Hizzbullah, so that they see how good Iranian training and weapons are. Now the Bush administration is pushing Georgia to fight the separatists to see how strong Russia is, as a punishment for Russian not backing the sanctions on Iran and as an experiment trying to see how good the Russian army is and especially how good the new Russian made surface to air missiles that Russia promised Iran are..

Also, wearing out the Russians in the same way the American Army is worn out in Iraq is a wet dream of Cheney's. Two birds with one stone.

These Dick games only cost a few thousand dead in each round... Its time to impeach. Another month another thousand dead. The new world order has skulls and bones written all over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 08/08/2008

You have no idea what you are talking about. Seriously, that is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Go hide in a library for a few months, and come back when you have something intelligent to say.

p.s. Vote Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 08/08/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 29 fans permalink
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I was going to ask if he had any sources for these outlandish claims but you said what I was thinking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 08/08/2008
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 175 fans permalink
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This is nonsense, if not paranoid. The Russians have been making toruble for Georgia for a very long time and were determined to look for any excuse to attack. They won't pull out of it either. So what's Europe going to do? The UN should have put up sanctions against Russia when they bombed Georgia before. Now it's too late, although not for sanctions. Bush won't do anything either. These Russians are pigs and never learn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 08/08/2008
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You have got to be bloody kidding. Newsflash to you...but not every war is instigated or somehow propagated by Darth Cheney. The Russians and Georgians are quite capable of starting their own nasty little contre-temps on their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 08/08/2008

WOW...ther­e smarter than I thought...­great plan I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 08/08/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

George Bush probably thinks that Georgia has been invaded by South Carolina and he is calling General W.T. Sherman for a status report.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 08/08/2008
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Oh, those sly Russian aggressors! They like to attack - as during the destruction of the Hungarian Revolution in 1956 - when the world's attention is tied up elsewhere! And Magister Ludi is clearly working in the pay of Putin. NATO should bomb the Russian tanks and Russia proper NOW and bring the Putinist adventurers to their senses. The Russians are only interested in expanding the Greater Russian Empire just as their Soviet predecessors were.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 08/08/2008

yeah, lets start WWIII over a place like Georgia, great idea!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 08/08/2008

I'm afraid you are probably right. My guess is Putin will try to reclaim most of what it lost after the communists fell. The new Russian fascists have different economic goals, but the same military goals as the Commies had.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 08/08/2008
- biwee I'm a Fan of biwee 13 fans permalink

Nato will bomb NOTHING that is Russian. Are you CRAZY??? You must be a NeoCon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 08/08/2008
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The so-called break away province of South Ossetian is part of Georgia just like Texas and Southern California belonged to Mexico once. For helping the Bolsheviks take over Georgia the Ossetians living there where given an autonomous status and Russian passports. Today the province is 2/3 Ossetian and 1/3 Georgian. Since the breakup of the Soviet Union and Georgian Independence, the problem between the two groups has been programed.

The Ossetians think they'd be better off with the Russians and want to break away from Georgia. The Georgians living there naturally don't. Kosovo with 90% Albanians wanted to break away from Serbia. The Serb minority didn't. The world community recognized Kosovo and rejected South Ossetian.

So, right or wrong or for whatever reasons we have Georgia sending in the military to control the South Ossetian province which is recognized as being theirs. So Russia sends its military into Georgia to support the Georgian Ossetians who have Russian Passports.

This area has been a center point for power struggle since the time of the Greeks, the Persians, the Romans, the Mongols, the Turks and the Russians and all those little tribes in between.

Sounds like just the place we ought to get involved with, hmm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 08/08/2008

"The world community recognized Kosovo"? Strange, the last time I looked, Kosovo is recognized by only 40 of the 192 countries(and Russia and China are not one of them).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 08/08/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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It's about Georgia flexing its muscle to impress the NATO countries in a last-ditch bid to get membership before Bush leaves office empty-handed. Georgian puppets want to show that, when the Western bankers snap their fingers, they'll waste no time getting tanks and planes enroute to overthrow officials, pry-open markets while keeping the trade routes clear for the multinational pillaging of energy and water.

Win or lose, they're showing they have b*lls!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 08/08/2008
- cobobs I'm a Fan of cobobs 31 fans permalink
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These things are always more convoluted than they look to the casual eye.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 08/08/2008
- jrterrier I'm a Fan of jrterrier 5 fans permalink

NUTS. the world does not need any more wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 08/08/2008

From the Peoples of S. Ossetia:

8.08.2008 - 20:23
Appeal to the Governments and peoples of the world!
Please, help us stop genocide of the small people of the South Ossetia!
The small country, which has been constantly destroying for 19 years by Georgian fascists.
And the international community conceal all the atrocities of Georgia for the sake of geopolitical interest of America.
Conflict resolution is completely in international law.
However, the Georgian side skillfully uses methods of historical falsifications, political insinuations. Georgia enjoys the patronage of a criminal government of the USA, and presents events in the world misrepresented.
At the moment the most part of South Ossetia is erased by the Georgian aggressors. There continue to die elderly, women, children.
The death toll is unknown, because of the Georgian side fired them all who tried to help the wounded. Children are among them.
Not comparable with anything Georgian cruelty let know even in 91-92 years.
When Georgians at point-blank range shot civilians of South Ossetia, as the example of the bus which was driving with people on bypass road, Zar. No one will forget it!
Georgian fascists made all people go out, from the bus and fired them. They also fired point-blank women and children and kids . They fired even the little three-year-old boy, who hid away under the body of his mother.

People of S. Ossetia

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 08/08/2008
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