Russia vs Georgia: Outbreak Of Hostilities After Georgia Tries To Regain Breakaway Province

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MUSA SADULAYEV | August 8, 2008 11:44 PM EST | AP

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In this image, made from television, Russian military vehicles are moving towards the breakaway South Ossetia republic's capital, Tskhinvali, on Friday, Aug. 8, 2008. Russia's Defense Ministry says it has sent reinforcements to its peacekeepers deployed to South Ossetia to help end bloodshed. Georgian officials confirmed that the Russian convoy had crossed the border and was advancing toward Tskhinvali. Georgia launched a massive attack Friday to regain control over South Ossetia, using heavy artillery, aircraft and armor. South Ossetian officials said at least 15 people were killed Friday and an unspecified number were wounded. (AP Photo/APTN)

DZHAVA, Georgia — Russia sent an armored column into the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia after Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched an offensive to crush separatists. Georgia reported early Saturday that warplanes attacked three of its bases and some key oil facilities.

Witnesses said hundreds of civilians have died in the fighting, which threatened to ignite a wider war between Georgia and Russia and escalate tensions between Moscow and Washington.

Georgia said it was forced to launch the assault because of rebel attacks; the separatists alleged Georgia violated a cease-fire.

The South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali was reportedly devastated. Ossetia spokeswoman Irina Gagloyeva said the city came under prolonged fire during the night "but it was suppressed" by the armed forces, the Interfax news agency quoted her as saying Saturday.

"I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars," said Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who had fled with her family to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia. "It's impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged."

The fighting broke out as much of the world's attention was focused on the start of the Olympic Games and many leaders, including Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Bush, were in Beijing.

The timing suggested Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili may have been counting on surprise to fulfill his longtime pledge to wrest back control of South Ossetia _ a key to his hold on power. The rebels seek to unite with North Ossetia, which is part of Russia.

Saakashvili agreed the timing was not coincidental, but accused Russia of being the aggressor. "Most decision makers have gone for the holidays," he told CNN. "Brilliant moment to attack a small country."

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Seeking to prevent an all-out war, diplomats issued a flurry of statements calling on both sides to halt the fighting. The U.N. Security Council held two tense emergency sessions 12 hours apart with both sides using the forum to launch accusations. As the meeting recessed, officials promised a third council session Saturday.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged Russia to halt aircraft and missile attacks and withdraw combat forces from Georgian territory. Rice said in a statement the United States wants Russia to respect Georgian sovereignty and agree to international mediation.

The leader of South Ossetia's rebel government, Eduard Kokoity, said about 1,400 people were killed in the onslaught, the Interfax news agency reported. The toll could not be independently confirmed.

As night fell, there were conflicting claims as to who held the battlefield advantage.

Saakashvili said "Georgian military forces completely control all the territory of South Ossetia" except for a northern section adjacent to Russia. But Russian news agencies cited a Russian military official as saying heavy fighting was under way on the outskirts of the regional capital.

Early Saturday, Interior Ministry spokesman Shota Utiashvili said the Vaziani military base on the outskirts of the Georgian capital was bombed by warplanes during the night and that bombs fell in the area of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline. He also said two other Georgian military bases were hit and that warplanes bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility.

Utiashvili said there apparently were significant casualties and damage in the attacks, but that further details would not be known until the morning.

Earlier, Georgia's Foreign Ministry accused Russian aircraft of bombing two military air bases, inflicting some casualties and destroying several military aircraft. Rustavi 2 television said four people were killed and five wounded at the Marneuli air base.

Twelve Russian troops were killed and 30 wounded in the fighting, said Russian Ground Forces spokesman Col. Igor Konashenkov. Saakashvili said late Friday that about 30 Georgians had been killed "mainly members of the Georgian armed forces."

It was unclear what might persuade either side to stop shooting. Both claim the battle started after the other side violated a cease-fire that had been declared just hours earlier after a week of sporadic clashes.

The United States was sending in its top Caucasus envoy, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Matthew Bryza, to try to end the bloodshed.

It was the worst outbreak of hostilities since the province won de facto independence in a war against Georgia that ended in 1992. Russian troops went in as peacekeepers but Georgia alleges they now back the separatists.

Russia, which has granted citizenship to most of the region's residents, appeared to lay much of the responsibility for ending the fighting on Washington.

In a telephone conversation with Rice, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Georgia must be convinced to withdraw its forces, according to a ministry statement.

Georgia, which borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the breakup of the Soviet Union. Georgia has angered Russia by seeking NATO membership _ a bid Moscow regards as part of a Western effort to weaken its influence in the region.

Saakashvili long has pledged to restore Tbilisi's rule over South Ossetia and another breakaway province, Abkhazia. Both regions have run their own affairs without international recognition since splitting from Georgia in the early 1990s and have built up ties with Moscow.

Georgia has about 2,000 troops in Iraq, making it the third-largest contributor to coalition forces after the U.S. and Britain. But Saakashvili told CNN the troops would be called home Saturday in the face of the South Ossetia fighting.

A senior U.S. defense official said Georgian authorities have asked the United States for help getting their troops out of Iraq. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions have been private, said no formal decision has been made on whether to support the departure, but said it is likely the U.S. will do so.

Also, Pentagon officials said Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has reached out to his counterparts in Russia and Georgia, but has not yet connected with them.

Russia's Defense Ministry said it was sending in reinforcements for its troops in the province, and Russian state television and Georgian officials reported a convoy of tanks had crossed the border. The convoy was expected to reach the provincial capital, Tskhinvali, by evening, Channel One television said.

Putin warned in the early stages of the conflict that the Georgian attack would draw retaliation and the Defense Ministry pledged to protect South Ossetians, most of whom have Russian citizenship.

Chairing a session of his Security Council in the Kremlin, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev also vowed that Moscow will protect Russian citizens.

"In accordance with the constitution and federal law, I, as president of Russia, am obliged to protect lives and dignity of Russian citizens wherever they are located," Medvedev said. "We won't allow the death of our compatriots go unpunished."

On Friday, an AP reporter saw tanks and other heavy weapons concentrating on the Russian side of the border with South Ossetia _ supporting the reports of an incursion. Some villagers were fleeing into Russia.

The Georgian state minister for reintegration, Temur Yakobashvili, said Georgian forces had shot down four Russian combat planes over Georgian territory but gave no details. Russia's Defense Ministry denied an earlier Georgia report about one Russian plane downed and had no immediate comment on the latest claim.

Yakobashvili said one Russian plane had dropped a bomb on the Vaziani military base near the Georgian capital, but no one was hurt. More than 1,000 U.S. Marines and soldiers were at the base last month to teach combat skills to Georgian troops.

South Ossetia officials said Georgia attacked with aircraft, armor and heavy artillery. Georgian troops fired missiles at Tskhinvali, an official said, and many buildings were on fire.

Georgia's president said Russian aircraft bombed several Georgian villages and other civilian facilities.

A senior Russian diplomat in charge of the South Ossetian conflict, Yuri Popov, dismissed the Georgian claims of Russian bombings as misinformation, the RIA-Novosti news agency reported.

The Georgian attack came just hours after Saakashvili announced a unilateral cease-fire in a television broadcast late Thursday in which he also urged South Ossetian separatist leaders to enter talks on resolving the conflict.

Georgian officials later blamed South Ossetian separatists for thwarting the cease-fire by shelling Georgian villages in the area.

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Associated Press writers Misha Dzhindzhikhashvili in Tbilisi, Vladimir Isachenkov in Moscow and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report.

DZHAVA, Georgia — Russia sent an armored column into the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia after Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched an offensive to crush separatists. Georgia reported early...
DZHAVA, Georgia — Russia sent an armored column into the breakaway enclave of South Ossetia after Georgia, a staunch U.S. ally, launched an offensive to crush separatists. Georgia reported early...
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- Garvagh I'm a Fan of Garvagh 11 fans permalink

Let us remember that John McCain, and his dreadful bearded national security adviser (Randy Scheunemann) want Georgia and Israel to become members of NATO! What a great idea!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 08/08/2008

Georgia unprovoked attack on Ossetia was timed to begin when the eyes of the world are focused on Olympic Games. Hoping to get "under the radar" on this one. How despicable. Just as Balkan criminals Suckashvilli will pay for this crime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 08/08/2008

are you one the pay of Putin? Ossetia is part of Georgia. It has been illegally controlled by Russia for some time. Are you actually going to claim that one of the most powerfull Russian armies (over 100,000 soldiers, 650+ tanks) just happened to be on the manuevers 1 hour away from Ossetia's borders when fighting broke down? the entire Georgian millatary is less than third of it...

Russia had promissed a payback to the West for Kosovo's independen­ce... this is it...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 08/08/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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"failed failed" was unintentional, possible Freudian-s­lip...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 08/08/2008

They talked about it during the ceremonies­.... so everyone with access to the CBC heard about it at least.....­.... and heard about it five hours before this story was even filed.... I was rather surprised when I heard them talking about it........­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 08/08/2008

If Russia succumbs to Georgia, we maz have to send troops to protect then Kremlin and our good friend, Mr. Putin. How about that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 08/08/2008
- Swerinjer I'm a Fan of Swerinjer 9 fans permalink

So Georgia attacked first. Keep that in mind as you watch the coverage.

A report that Israel is backing Georgia: http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1358

naturally its lapdog the US will follow.

So therefore all the TV reports you see will be biased against Russia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 08/08/2008

President of South Ossetia Edward Kokoity, condemned Georgian aggression in strongest terms. He added:" Ossetians will defend ourselves and then will counterattack in several directions at once."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 08/08/2008

2006 S Ossetians had a referendum and overwhelmingly voted for independence.
Now Georgia is trying to take back what is no longer theirs by violent means.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/08/2008
- Paul I'm a Fan of Paul 32 fans permalink

You mean like the Confederate States of America?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 08/08/2008
- JackTar I'm a Fan of JackTar 2 fans permalink

American conservatives have launched similar foreign wars against weak states for similar reasons. Reagan didn't even need the start of a civil war for his excuse that communists in Grenada might harm American students there; now the Russians are saying they're going in to protect Russian citizens. Both of those reasons are perfectly valid, aren't they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 08/08/2008
- politicky I'm a Fan of politicky 14 fans permalink
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Caucasus: Georgia, Armenia Consider Options After Russia Pipeline Explosions
February 01, 2006 http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1065318.html
By Robert Parsons

Asked by a Georgian journalist whether the recent pipeline explosions in Russia that cut off the gas supply to Georgia were part of an energy war against Tbilisi, Putin criticized the Georgian government­...
The gas from Azerbaijan and Iran delivers about 4 million cubic meters a day -- still just 30 percent of Georgia's needs....

Might it not irritate Washington, though, that its ally in the Caucasus is turning to Iran for help?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 08/08/2008
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It wasn't particularly too bright of Georgia to start a border war with Russia.

Were they thinking that the US would support them militarily in this endeavor? This was really stupid on their part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 08/08/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 237 fans permalink
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I heard an expert on this area say that because Georgia is one of the few countries that hasn't pulled out of Iraq, it, Georgia, may have just assumed that we would back them if they got a little frisky, and that this assumption was a dangerous one. He also rammed home the notion that our encouraging Georgia to join Nato has infuriated Russia.

However, he also pointed out that Putin, who is still The Man, has for a long time now been in the mood to strut and stomp and flex his muscles, and that's true.

He's always threatening Europe with something or other, and because lots of countries on this side of the pond are dependent on Russia for gas, he feels very confident.

He's a crafty, clever man with a winning smile and dark ambitions, in my view. Likeable, in some ways, but dangerous. And of course the dependence on Russian gas means that he has some countries over here by the you know whats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 08/08/2008

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" as the saying goes. Putin wants to show what he can do with all that Western gas and oil money. A very smart and dangerous man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 08/08/2008
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NATO expansion in the 1990's (under Bill Clinton) infuriated and humilated Russia, something they did not forget. I believe that this led to the ascendancy of Putin, who rules Russia like a czar. He may not be the president technically, but he's calling every shot in sight, literally and figuratively.

Georgia was considering joining NATO as well, also infuriating Russia. It seemed that Georgia's president, who was educated in America no less, has a little of Bush in him, acting like a tough guy and making stupid decisions, despite his "education".

Putin, like any autocrat, likes to flex his muscles, and now he's got the perfect excuse. He also wields gas like a weapon.

Ironically, many (if not all) Georgia's troops have been recalled because of this. If Georgia's president really thought we'd back him on this, he's an even bigger idiot than Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 08/09/2008

Another American trained and equipped lapdog Georgia ( George-ia) attacking its civilian populations.
Guess what Suckashvilli, some people do NOT want to be part of your utterly corrupt governance.
FREE Ossetia and Abkhazia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 08/08/2008
- quadman I'm a Fan of quadman 7 fans permalink
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Are you ready to denounce the ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Abkhazia that occurred in the 90's? This is not a good guy - bad guy situation here. Study up on both sides of the conflicts you mention. Georgia, though not innocent, is not the big player here, Russia (aka Putin) is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 08/08/2008

As we leave Iraq the Republicans need another war to divert the American people's attention from the fact that the Republicans are shafting them economically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 08/08/2008
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 200 fans permalink
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I seriously don't think this plan for war in Georgia was made in the USA. So let's not blame the Republicans for using this one as cover. Stuff happens. But yes, they promised to be fiscally and morally conservative and virtuous with our economy. They called it "The Contract With America" but it's more like "The Contract On America." Big, record setting failures for the six Bush years with a Republican Congress. Now with a Democratic Congress, problem still not solved yet. Because we as a nation haven't held anybody accountable. WE THE PEOPLE have to insist on balancing the budget.

A man (or country) has got to know his limitations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 AM on 08/09/2008
- politicky I'm a Fan of politicky 14 fans permalink
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EURASIAN CORRIDOR PIPELINES: UNDERMINING TRANSCAUCASIAN SECURITY?
By Khatuna Salukvadze (04/26/2000 issue of the CACI Analyst)
http://www.cacianalyst.org/?q=node/328

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 08/08/2008

McCain will be talking about the plight of the innocent Geogians very soon and I suspect he will be calling for the use of force to protect or liberate them if necessary, guaranteed! But this will be no mere 'tough talk' ploy to get more votes and look more presidential, he really does want to war with Russia!!! I wonder what the price of oil will be during the nuclear winter?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 08/08/2008

How about liberating the people of South Ossetia from the Georgian opressors?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 08/08/2008

He'll forget about them, the same way he forgot about the Serbs in Kosovo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 08/08/2008

Georgia's action to me is not acceptable regardless of the situation. The only solution is a political solution and if I was Russia, I will teach Georgia's Government some edicts on how to fight and make sure never again they will try to flex their muscles on Russia. Can you imagine the Government of Mexico wanting to take territory of San Diego? The US will crush them in a minute. I think Russia need to teach Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili a lesson he will not forget for crossing the line regardless of Georgian relationship with the US especially after killing Russian soldiers. That would be what the US would have done if the tables were turned and that is still what Israel does against the Palestinians.

If we plan to accept a country to be a part of NATO and we have idiotic rulers who are provoking war in this world (especially when a symbol of unity is about to start in China) then, I say they need to learn the hard way. I say no to accepting Georgia as a NATO member.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 08/08/2008
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You say the only solution is a political solution but then go on to say in no uncertain terms that militarily they should be taught a lesson. A little less than political isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/08/2008

Small issue with your analysis - the war is going on on Georgian terretory, not Russian.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 08/08/2008

Last I checked, Lebanon doesn't exactly belong to Israel either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 08/09/2008
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 200 fans permalink
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The Russians will use the death of their peacekeepers as a pretext. But it won't be the only reason.

Keep in mind, the Israelis thought they'd do the same in south Lebanon against terrorists for kidnapping two of their soldiers. The trouble with war is it's unpredictability. Who foresaw the Israeli Army's problems? Yes, Russia probably could stomp Georgia. That is, if nothing else goes wrong ... like the Turks, Armenians, Kurds, etc. all within close proximity, let alone US and Iranian interests. Bad thing about war, it tends to suck stability right out of a region.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 08/09/2008

Of course war monger McCain would love to get us involved in another useless conflict here. Helping the Georgians impose its will on the Ossetians by force is not in our interest and we need to stay out of this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 08/08/2008
- politicky I'm a Fan of politicky 14 fans permalink
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CaptainVideo,

we already are:

UPDATED ON:
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2008/07/200871515107741998.html

US army exercises begin in Georgia

The Georgian and US military exercise involve around 1,650 servicemen [EPA]

The United States and Russia are holding military exercises on either side of the Caucasus mountains amid increasing tensions over the fate of two separatist regions in ex-Soviet Georgia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 08/08/2008
- Bubba Gump I'm a Fan of Bubba Gump 200 fans permalink
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They've got dead Russian peacekeeping troops from Georgian weapons. But if Russian and American troops accidentally mix it up ... poop hits the fan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 08/09/2008
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I wonder how many ignoramuses think that Russia attacked the state of Georgia? Just a thought.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 PM on 08/08/2008

A majority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 08/08/2008

LOL - was just figuring out the odds with the husband - I say around 50%, he says less than that. But then he has always been optimistic in overestimating the group intelligence of the US ;-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 08/08/2008

I wander how many ignoramuses think that Georgia attacked Russia....

And before you try to lecture me - a few facts. I was born in Russia, I have spend time in Georgia and specificly Abhazia (great vocation spot) and Ossetia. So I know full history of the region... do you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 08/08/2008
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and before you try to lecture me, Neo Con, I specifically stated 'ignoramuses'. If you consider yourself one of those, it's not my problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 08/08/2008
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