McCain: Obama Seeks To 'Legislate Failure' In Iraq

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BETH FOUHY | August 9, 2008 08:11 PM EST | AP

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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., addresses the 87th Annual Convention of the Disabled American Veterans, Saturday, Aug. 9, 2008, in Las Vegas, Nev. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

LAS VEGAS — Republican John McCain on Saturday issued a scathing critique of Barack Obama's judgment and readiness to be commander in chief, telling a veterans' group his Democratic rival had tried to "legislate failure" in Iraq and placed his own ambition ahead of military success there.

Addressing the Disabled American Veterans convention here, McCain mocked what he called Obama's varying positions on the Bush administration's decision to send an additional 30,000 troops to Iraq last year. The GOP hopeful supported the so-called "surge" strategy, even as polls showed most voters opposed sending more troops into combat at the time.

Obama spoke out against the original invasion as an Illinois state senator and strongly opposed the subsequent troop increase in the U.S. Senate and on the campaign trail.

Since then, the surge has been credited with helping stabilize Iraq and reduce violence there. Obama has argued that it has not brought about the political reconciliation between rival Sunni and Shia factions needed to create lasting peace in the country.

But in a tacit acknowledgment that his original assessment of the troop increase may have proven incorrect, Obama's campaign removed criticisms of the strategy from its Web site last month.

Narrowly trailing Obama in national and many battleground state polls, McCain, a 71-year old decorated Navy veteran and member of the Senate Armed Services committee, has increasingly tried to portray the 47-year old Obama as lacking the experience and judgment to lead the country in a dangerous world.

Obama, in turn, has criticized McCain for supporting the original Iraq invasion which polls show many voters now consider a mistake. Recently, Obama, who has made Afghanistan a centerpiece of his anti-terrorism strategy, has said the protracted Iraq conflict has drawn needed resources away from Afghanistan where al-Qaida and Taliban forces have shown a resurgence.

"Senator McCain continues to be stubbornly committed to the Bush administration position of an indefinite military presence in Iraq, despite the fact that the Iraqi government is calling for a timeline, despite the fact that the Iraqis are sitting on tens of billions in oil surplus while our economy is struggling at home, despite the impact on our troops and despite the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan," Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan said.

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In his speech, McCain said Obama had not only predicted the troop increase would not succeed but had taken steps to ensure its failure, saying Obama had tried to prevent needed funding for it.

"Not content to merely predict failure in Iraq, my opponent tried to legislate failure," McCain said.

Obama voted against one major military appropriations bill in May 2007, but otherwise has voted consistently for funding to support the war.

McCain also renewed his criticism of Obama's call for a timeline to remove troops from Iraq, even as the U.S. and Iraq are near an agreement to pull American combat troops from the country by October 2010.

McCain later told The Associated Press that he believed the agreement being negotiated was not a timeline, as advocated by Obama.

"It will be notional and aspirational dates, but it will be based on conditions, I know that," McCain said. "They will be times that we hope they can be out by. They will be based on conditions on the ground, not according to hard deadlines."

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Associated Press Writer Kathleen Hennessey in Las Vegas contributed to this report.

LAS VEGAS — Republican John McCain on Saturday issued a scathing critique of Barack Obama's judgment and readiness to be commander in chief, telling a veterans' group his Democratic rival had tr...
LAS VEGAS — Republican John McCain on Saturday issued a scathing critique of Barack Obama's judgment and readiness to be commander in chief, telling a veterans' group his Democratic rival had tr...
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- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 263 fans permalink
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McCain, a 71-year old decorated Navy veteran and member of the Senate Armed Services committee, has increasingly tried to portray the 47-year old Obama as lacking the experience and judgment to lead the country in a dangerous world.

All together now, bomb,bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran/

And then what happens Johnny?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 08/10/2008
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 66 fans permalink

Johnny pulls...a blank! Ahhh, "what was your first question?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 08/10/2008
- Stevie57 I'm a Fan of Stevie57 2 fans permalink
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McCain is clearly living on Fantasy Island.
Iraq HAS failed, and Obama had nothing whatever to do with it...truth be known if we had listened to him we wouldn't have got into a war doomed for failure in the first place. What he wants to do is legislate us out of a no win situation...
Oh, and by the way Mr. McCain, we didn't win Vietnam either, and Afghanistan is'nt going to well...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 08/10/2008
- ex-pat I'm a Fan of ex-pat 19 fans permalink

However, he has high hopes for the Georgian conflict

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 08/10/2008
- wolf58 I'm a Fan of wolf58 36 fans permalink

I see McCain does not keep up with current events. Iraq and US are almost ready to announce an agreement which will have a time line for troop withdrawal. Which means the end of this madness is coming soon unless of course McCain should win then I'll bet he will do what he wants no matter what the Iraqi's say or want.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 08/10/2008
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 66 fans permalink

Scary part is Big Mac has his sights on Iran....!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 08/10/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 17 fans permalink

When McCain stops telling us what he thinks Obama is going to do and instead states what John McCain is going to do he might begin to look presidential and capable of holidng that office. As of late all he is doing is pointing out that he does not really have a plan other that the one which is all about telling us about what he thinks Obama's plan is.

Obama will take away your healthcare.
Obama will lose the war.
Obama will eat your first born.
Obama wants to sell your dog.
Obama is the one.
Obama is Britney Hilton.
Obama is shhhhh.

This tactic may work but in doing so it demeans this country and the candidate who chooses to follow this path of negativity and distortion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 08/10/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

Obama wants to sell my dog? He must be stopped!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 08/10/2008
- elr50 I'm a Fan of elr50 20 fans permalink

Healthcare???? WHAT healthcare? The U.S. is the only industrialized country without national healthcare. This country sucks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 08/10/2008
- LeBelAge I'm a Fan of LeBelAge 13 fans permalink

I love how the Republicans still think they can fool the American people that Iraq is "winnable" after 5 years of utter failure.

Denial thy name is John McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 08/10/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

Failure only exists in the minds of left wing loons. Polls have changed a great deal since the surge, you might want to rethink your position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/10/2008
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Polls have exactly zero to do with winning a war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 08/10/2008
- chs1965 I'm a Fan of chs1965 2 fans permalink

What are notional and aspirational dates? Does anyone understand this latest McCainSpeak?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 08/10/2008
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 66 fans permalink

Notional: Existing in the mind only. Imaginary
Aspirational: A strong desire to achieve something high or great!

I'm sure no one understood what the f'k he was trying to say. For sure...it was scripted for McSame

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 08/10/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 211 fans permalink
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...whereas M'cC seeks to legislate failure in the U.S.?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 08/10/2008
- Shayrae I'm a Fan of Shayrae 27 fans permalink
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I never thought I would say this, but I am beginning to think that John McCain is more dangerous for this country than Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 08/10/2008

You wouldnt have to be blind to realize that

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 AM on 08/10/2008
- NeoLiberal I'm a Fan of NeoLiberal 17 fans permalink

The danger lies in his absent-mindedness. Have you heard him speak? He gets countries wrong, leaders wrong, dates wrong. What will happen when he authorizes an attack on a country and then says "oops, I meant the other one"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 08/10/2008
- Shayrae I'm a Fan of Shayrae 27 fans permalink
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The thought of this crazy old warmonger sitting in the Oval Office scares the hell out of me. The man is surely deranged. How the hell is Obama ''legislating failure''? Who is running this so called campaign. If we allow this man to win the WH, we deserve anything that we get.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 08/10/2008
- jnratliff I'm a Fan of jnratliff 9 fans permalink

Mcsame is seeking to legislate loonacy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 08/10/2008
- 1st2vote I'm a Fan of 1st2vote 2 fans permalink
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OK then, let just say the "surge" worked " over and done with. Can we come home now and stop making this debt for my grandchildren in that hell hole. I r a q is projected to have 79 billion in oil money by years end right? Let them hire B l a c k W a t e r for their protection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 08/10/2008
- patwal I'm a Fan of patwal 6 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 08/10/2008
- Diogenis I'm a Fan of Diogenis 66 fans permalink

Speaking of wars...anyone notice the ads on the internet?

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Dang.....now doesn't that want you to run today and enlist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 08/10/2008
- BCubedReg I'm a Fan of BCubedReg 6 fans permalink

Wow. A very powerful video

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 08/10/2008
- chs1965 I'm a Fan of chs1965 2 fans permalink

Truly frightening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 08/10/2008
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 224 fans permalink
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McSame also believes that we would have won in Vietnam if we had just stayed and continued to escalate the American military presence there as well. Perhaps if someone from the mainstream corporate media would ask him about why he thinks we lost in Vietnam, his answer would help bring a little clarity to the insanity of his position on the occupation of Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 AM on 08/10/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

First off we didn't lose in Vietnam we abandoned the vietnamese which directly led to the slaughter of 3 mil of them. Secondly we would have won if politicians would let the generals do there jobs. Same with Iraq have so much political in fighting the generals can't fight a war how it should be fought. That being without mercy. If we would have done that we would have suceeded in Vietnam and Iraq would be over by now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 08/10/2008
- Graywolf48 I'm a Fan of Graywolf48 82 fans permalink
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Wrong, we lost. Your right wing whack job Nixon declared victory and pulled out. Kissinger and Nixon both knew there would be no "victory". So now, tell us about your military experience. Also give us a brief background on where you learned your history. Please, tell me all about Viet Nam, I'd like to hear it. How long were you there? How about Iraq, or maybe Kuwait or perhaps the big amphib assault on Granada? Those civilians "stabbed the military in the back", we could have won Viet Nam if we were still there! Right, sure. Where have I heard this before? Right wing wackos are always victorious in their wars, as long as they don't have to leave the keyboard to fight them. But that's the way righties are, crocodile mouths that overload canary butts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 08/10/2008

I dont know what is scarier, that you think you are correct, or that you will vote.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 08/10/2008

You are insufferably lacking in historical proof. So if you don't know history you must - in the record of fighting and the actually probability of winning a gorilla war (especially on the incomprehensible scale of the Vietnam conflict), be omnipresent.
A war 40 years ago is in essence, incomparable to the present conflict. All the metrics are different.
All the reasons for this war are different.
Both wars will be written as historical blunders.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 08/10/2008

As long as you're making up history as you go along, why not say 10 million were killed because the USA finally abandoned the slaughter of Asian peasants?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 08/10/2008
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Wrong on bout counts, danoj.

Like my old Vietnam era Ops Officer used to say, "When you get back to base and find an SA-2 site where your snack bar used to be, you've pretty much lost the war."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 08/10/2008
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Exactly what to expect from JM- straw man arguments and half truths.

Glad to see he was sorry for some of the negative campaigning.

Seriously, how many dopes can we afford to put in the WH?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 08/10/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

IDK, I think both nominees are dopes. Very sad that this is the best we can come up with in this country are these two clowns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 08/10/2008
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 224 fans permalink
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Obama has been right on every foreign policy position - McSame and Bush have both embraced timetables for withdrawal - call em "horizons" but they are timetables just the same. But perhaps you think that is a dopey solution as well - we're dying to hear your pearls of wisdom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 08/10/2008

If McCain wins - 80% of the U.S. population will be asking if you would like McFries with that McCoke and McDonalds - because McCain will ship all jobs to McChina!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 08/10/2008
- Torus34 I'm a Fan of Torus34 6 fans permalink
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If Senator McCain wishes to frame the Iraq invasion as a dichotomous win/lose situation, [a questionable position in itself], he should continue by providing a cost/benefit analysis, with probabilities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 08/10/2008
- Tommygun264 I'm a Fan of Tommygun264 224 fans permalink
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But that's just it - he NEVER addresses the cost and no one in the mainstream corporate media ever presses him on the matter. They prefer instead to act as stenographers rather than as journalists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 08/10/2008
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