Russia Expands Bombing Blitz Against Georgia

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MISHA DZHINDZHIKHASHVILI | August 10, 2008 10:59 PM EST | AP

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A column of Russian tanks rolls near the town of Dzhava in the separatist Georgian province of South Ossetia, Sunday, Aug. 10, 2008. Georgia called a cease-fire Sunday and said it was pulling its embattled troops out of the disputed province of South Ossetia, submitting to Russia's far superior firepower, but Moscow disputed the pullout claim. (AP Photo/Musa Sadulayev)

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatist Georgian province battered by days of intense fighting.

Russia claimed to have sunk a Georgian boat that was trying to attack Russian vessels in the Black Sea, and Georgian officials said Russia sent tanks from South Ossetia into Georgia proper, heading toward a strategic city before being turned back.

Russian planes on Sunday twice bombed an area near the Georgian capital's airport, officials said.

The violence appeared to show gargantuan Russia's determination to subdue diminutive, U.S.-backed Georgia, even at the risk of international reproach. Russia fended off a wave of international calls to observe Georgia's cease-fire, saying it must first be assured that Georgian troops have indeed pulled back from South Ossetia.

International envoys were heading in to try to end the conflict before it spreads throughout the Caucasus, a region plagued by ethnic tensions. But it was unclear what inducements or pressure the envoys could bring to bear, or to what extent either side was truly sensitive to world opinion.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili said one of the Russian raids on the airport area came a half hour before the arrival of the foreign ministers of France and Finland _ in the country to try to mediate.

Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Temur Yakobashvili said Russian tanks tried to cross from South Ossetia into the territory of Georgia proper, but were turned back by Georgian forces. He said the tanks apparently were trying to approach Gori, but did not fire on the city of about 50,000 that sits on Georgia's only significant east-west highway.

Russia also sent naval vessels to patrol off Georgia's Black Sea coast, but denied Sunday that the move was aimed at establishing a blockade.

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The ITAR-Tass news agency quoted a Russian Defense Ministry spokesman as saying that Georgian missile boats twice tried to attack Russian ships, which fired back and sank one of the Georgian vessels.

South Ossetia broke away from Georgian control in 1992. Russia granted passports to most of its residents and the region's separatist leaders sought to absorb the region into Russia.

Georgia, whose troops have been trained by American soldiers, began an offensive to regain control over South Ossetia overnight Friday, launching heavy rocket and artillery fire and air strikes that pounded the regional capital Tskhinvali. Georgia says it was responding to attacks by separatists.

In response, Russia launched massive artillery shelling and air attacks on Georgian troops.

Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin said more than 2,000 people had been killed in South Ossetia since Friday, most of them Ossetians with Russian passports. The figures could not be independently confirmed.

The respected Russian radio station Ekho Moskvy reported that two journalists were killed by South Ossetian separatists, citing a correspondent of Russian Newsweek magazine.

Thousands of civilians have fled South Ossetia _ many seeking shelter in the Russian province of North Ossetia.

"The Georgians burned all of our homes," said one elderly woman, as she sat on a bench under a tree with three other white-haired survivors of the fighting.

She seemed confused by the conflict. "The Georgians say it is their land," she said. "Where is our land, then? We don't know."

The scope of Russia's military response has the Bush administration deeply worried.

"We have made it clear to the Russians that if the disproportionate and dangerous escalation on the Russian side continues, that this will have a significant long-term impact on U.S.-Russian relations," U.S. deputy national security adviser Jim Jeffrey told reporters.

The U.S. military began flying 2,000 Georgian troops home from Iraq after Georgia recalled them, even while calling for a truce.

"Georgia expresses its readiness to immediately start negotiations with the Russian Federation on a cease-fire and termination of hostilities," the Georgian Foreign Ministry said in a statement, adding that it had notified Russia's envoy to Tbilisi.

But Russia insisted Georgian troops were continuing their attacks.

Alexander Darchiev, Russia's charge d'affairs in Washington, said Georgian soldiers were "not withdrawing but regrouping, including heavy armor and increased attacks on Tskhinvali."

"Mass mobilization is still under way," he told CNN's "Late Edition."

President Bush sought to contain the conflict in Georgia on Sunday as the White House warned that "Russian aggression must not go unanswered." Bush, in Beijing for the Olympics, has pressed for internaitonal mediation and reached out Sunday to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who heads the European Union. The two agreed on the need for a cease-fire and a respect for Georgia's integrity, a White House spokesman said.

The U.N. Security Council met for the fourth time in four days Sunday, with U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad accusing Moscow of seeking "regime change" in Georgia and resisting attempts to make peace. Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said Russians don't use the expression, but acknowledged there were occasions when elected leaders "become an obstacle."

Georgia borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia and was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union. Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia have run their own affairs without international recognition since fighting to split from Georgia in the early 1990s.

Both separatist provinces have close ties with Moscow, while Georgia has deeply angered Russia by wanting to join NATO.

Georgia's Security Council chief Alexander Lomaia said the Georgian troops had to move out of South Ossetia because of heavy Russian shelling. "Russia further escalated its aggression overnight, using weapons on an unprecedented scale," Lomaia said.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner called the hostilities in South Ossetia "massacres," hours before he and Finnish counterpart Alexander Stubb left for Tbilisi and a meeting with Saakashvili.

Kouchner said he would deliver a "message of peace" to Georgia and Russia, and call on both countries "to stop the fighting immediately."

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, meeting Saturday with South Ossetia refugees who had fled across the border to the Russian city of Vladikavkaz, described Georgia's actions as "complete genocide." Putin also said Georgia had lost the right to rule the breakaway province _ an indication Moscow could be ready to absorb the province.

Russian jets raided several Georgian air bases Saturday and bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility. The Russian warplanes also struck near the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline which carries Caspian crude to the West.

Russian officials said they were targeting Georgian communications and lines of supply. But a Russian raid Saturday on Gori near South Ossetia, which apparently targeted a military base on the town's outskirts, also killed many civilians.

Tskhinvali residents who survived the Georgian bombardment overnight Friday by hiding in basements and later fled the city estimated that hundreds of civilians had died.

The Georgian government said Sunday that 6,000 Russian troops have rolled into South Ossetia from the neighboring Russian province of North Ossetia and 4,000 more landed in Abkhazia. The Russian military wouldn't comment on troop movements.

Russia also sent a naval squadron to blockade Georgia's Black Sea coast. Ukraine, where the ships were based, warned Russia in response that it has the right to bar the ships from coming back to port because of their mission.

Both Ukraine and Georgia have sought to free themselves of Russia's influence, and to integrate into the West and join NATO.

Georgia said it has shot down 10 Russian planes, but Russia acknowledged only two.

NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said Russia violated Georgia's territorial integrity in South Ossetia and employed a "disproportionate use of force."

Adding to Georgia's woes, Russian-supported separatists in Abkhazia launched air and artillery strikes on Georgian troops to drive them out of a small part of the province they control.

Abkhazia's separatist government called out the army and reservists on Sunday and declared it would push Georgian forces out of the northern part of the Kodori Gorge, the only area of Abkhazia still under Georgian control.

Separatist Abkhazia forces also were concentrating on the border near Georgia's Zugdidi region.

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Associated Press writers David Nowak in Gori, Georgia; Douglas Birch in Vladikavkaz, Russia; and Jim Heintz, Vladimir Isachenkov and Lynn Berry in Moscow; and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report.

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatis...
TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatis...
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President Saakashvilli. I am proud to report that our glorious army is in top combat readiness. All troops were issued anxiety pills and adult diapers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 08/14/2008
- Gayrove I'm a Fan of Gayrove 10 fans permalink

Is this Russian bombing like the American bombing of Serbia in "defence" of Kossovo?
If Kossovo should be independent of Serbia, what's the U.S.'s problem with Ossetia getting free from Georgia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 08/14/2008
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Is everyone Shocked and Awed at (fill in the country of your choice) for using overwhelming forces on a small defenseless country?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 08/11/2008
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If Bush were PM of Russia he would have attacked an unrelated third party nation with strategic oil reserves using the Georgia uprising as cover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 08/11/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

The U.S. should send increased monetary aid to Georgia, at a minimum. Once the hostilities subside, if Georgia still exists, the U.S. should step up military aid. Russia is still P.O.d at the breakup of the Soviet Empire and Ivan Putin wishes for past glories. We should halt all aid to Russia temporarily, except having to do with NUCLEAR disarmament. Russia is also experiencing a WINDFALL PROFIT from their oil and gas, so our subsidies are not needed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 08/11/2008
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 26 fans permalink

You are obviously smitten with the PNAC plan for thw "New American Century".


The only real question is in what way you expect to profit by it.
If you are not already a robber baron yourself, you clearly misidentify yourself with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 08/11/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 239 fans permalink
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New thread, NOW it's all EDWARD'S fault that H didn't get the nomination, H the Victim is back!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/wolfson-edwards-affair-co_n_118109.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 08/11/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 388 fans permalink
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Just playing Devil's Advocate here:

If Georgia can break away from Russia, why can't South Ossetia and Abkhazia break away from Georgia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 08/11/2008
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IDK. Seems like they are well within their rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 08/11/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

Because there are limits to secession. South Ossetia and Avkhazia can't break away without help from Russia, which they are getting.

But the US can't help Georgia, which may be taken over by Russia entirely. Why? Because the US squandered its military resources. We chose to invade Iraq and Afghanistan and we really don't have enough troops to help Georgia as well. We made our choice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 08/11/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 388 fans permalink
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Even if we weren't tied up in Iraq and Afghanistan, I just don't see us getting into a direct conflict with Russia over this. The risk/reward equation just doesn't work out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 08/11/2008

Shortly: Because neither one of them positions themselves as the US ally. We've gone through this earlier in the Balkans, when Bush declared that Kosovo has the right to break away from Serbia (despite being virtually annexed by the US forces), however the Serbian anclaves in Kosovo would not be able to likewise break away from the newly carved out Albanian controlled state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 08/11/2008
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 26 fans permalink

South Ossetia and Abkhazia have had self-rule and autonomy for over 15 years!!

They are not now "breaking away".
The independent Tblisi Georgian government NEVER has exercised control over those territories.

When the Soviet Union broke apart, Georgians, Ossetians, and Abkhazians became independent. But neither the Abkhazians nor the Ossetians wanted to be part of the new Tblisi Georgian government and fought against the Georgians to prevent it. They were granted autonomy under UN auspices with Russian peacekeepers.
Tblisi Georgia's only claim on Ossetia and Abkhazia is that they all had belonged to the same juridiction under Soviet rule.

The sneak Georgian attack on civilian centers during negotiations smacks of ethnic cleansing, not of a good faith effort to incorporate the peoples of Ossetia and Abkhazia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 08/11/2008
- cardineau I'm a Fan of cardineau 36 fans permalink
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There is no way that Georgia acted unilaterly on this attack. The US and Israel have military advisors spread thru-out the Georgian military. To have amassed the necessary artillery and ammunition and troops on the border without US knowledge is impossible. The sneak attack was done with US blessing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 08/11/2008
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 26 fans permalink

In fact Bush/Cheney have obvious reasons to encourage Saakashvili. Their quick removal of Georgian troops from Iraq indicates they are more than willing to escalate the conflict.

(1) a good ploy for the upcoming elections

(2) possible cover for an attack on Iran

(3) another step in the overall neoCON PNAC plan. Specifically, revive the Cold War to further the militarization of the US in order to secure resources and ensure a most profitable distribution of wealth in the neoCON dubbed "New American Century".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 08/11/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Let's see.......­if a good ally (Georgia) recalls their troops from a U.S. led coalition, should the U.S. aid this ally or should we thumb our nose at them.....t­oughy.....­..hmmmmm..­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 08/11/2008
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Is anyone listening to The Maverick? He says he knows how to win wars. Maybe our ally Georgia can call The Maverick and get the double super secret on winning the war against Russia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 08/11/2008
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I never knew sitting in a prison for the duration of a war is experience needed to win wars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 08/11/2008
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Is UU going to activate Condi? She is an expert on Russia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 08/11/2008

Let’s see if I got this right. By supporting Georgia and flying their troops home on U.S. planes, we are on the side of Georgia’s domination of South Ossetia and Abkhazia rather than Russia’s domination of the same territory. Somebody is going to dominate the land in question − there’s no question about that.

Georgia’s domination and ethnic cleansing is OK, Russian domination in any form is bad.

Is that our policy? Sounds like normalcy to me. How I long for the days of good old Republican “Realpotitik” instead of this Neocon “fantasypo­litik.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 08/11/2008

Giving Georgian troops a ride home is hardly taking sides, one way or the other. We have so far stayed out of it, and wisely so. This isn't a bush, Obama thing. It's a Russian/Georgian thing. How smart is it for a three foot man to punch a man who is 6'5???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 08/11/2008
- cardineau I'm a Fan of cardineau 36 fans permalink
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I disagree ... Ferrying in additional troops is aiding the enemy from Russia's point of view.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 08/11/2008
- rwe2late I'm a Fan of rwe2late 26 fans permalink

The Bush/Cheney government finances, equips, trains, and advises the Georgian military. The obviously had advance knowledge of the sneak attack and approved of it, since it fits in well with their overall goals.

The haste with which the Georgian troops were transferred is also revealing.

You are being obtuse to describe Bush/Cheney as "not taking sides".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 08/11/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 388 fans permalink
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In the grand scheme of things, I don't see 2000 extra Georgian troops making that big a difference. The forces are grossly mismatched.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 08/11/2008
- cardineau I'm a Fan of cardineau 36 fans permalink
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There is a good chance that one of those US transports ferrying Georgian troops home from Iraq might accidently get shot down. I wouldn't blame Russia one bit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 08/11/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 388 fans permalink
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That would be bad on several levels. I'm sure the Russians don't want to bring us into this any more than we want to be brought into it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 08/11/2008
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don't worry the Bush administration knew all along of russia's intention of attacking georgia it's all a facade and payback for our invading Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 08/11/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Again, we see the foreign policy inexperience of Premier NObama. His Carteresque tepid initial response leaves much to be desired. His over reliance on the U.N. Security Council, which Russia has veto power, underscores his lack of resolve and poor judgement. McBush held the high ground and the moment AGAIN when it came to a strong response to potential adversaries, whether political, diplomatic, or military. BRAVO, McBUSH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 08/11/2008
- Crake I'm a Fan of Crake 2 fans permalink

Georgia committed genocide against South Ossetia, once the dust clears McCain and his lobbyists are going to be viewed on most unfavorably.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 08/11/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Okaaaaaayy­yyyy......­...riiiiig­hhhhhttttt­..........­...How about that Girly Man, Edwards while we're on the inane.....­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 08/11/2008

How so?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 08/11/2008
- Joeinloth I'm a Fan of Joeinloth 2 fans permalink

Yeah, well Lieberman had to tell McCain that ATLANTA was in no real danger!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 08/11/2008

LOL! Best joke on the web so far. And probably true to boot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 08/11/2008

What has the US done, actually??? Other than issue statements of condemnation and requests for the end of hostilities? Neither bush, nor Obama nor McSame has really done anything. I think we should stay the hell out of it. Georgia started this little skirmish. I'd say we currently have our hands full with al Qaida and the Taliban and Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 08/11/2008

Alright, why don't you tell us right away as to what exactly has to be done to whom and for what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 08/11/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 388 fans permalink
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And McCain did exactly what? Wrote a sternly worded letter to the Kremlin? Called Russia a bad name?

Since the Russians seem to still be conducting operations I don't think it did a whole heck of a lot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 08/11/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

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YES - Another Diplomatic F**K up Feather in Bu sh and Che ney's Hat!

Posted 05:11 AM on 08/11/2008


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America gets the gold for Shock and Awe with Russia getting the Silver medal.

Posted 06:23 AM on 08/11/2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 08/11/2008
- johnwinner I'm a Fan of johnwinner 13 fans permalink

Truth is what it is. The Bush Cheney spin machine can't change that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 08/11/2008

Georgia is NOT the heroic country, despite what the media would have you believe. The President of Georgia (Saakashvili) is a thug. Justin Raimondo at Antiwar.com wrote the following:

"What's particularly disgusting is the spectacle of the fraudulent Saakashvili's smug mug all over Western television – the BBC and Bloomberg, for starters – invoking his great love of "democracy" and "freedom" and calling on the U.S. to intervene in the name of supposedly shared "values." What drivel! Up until very recently, Saakashvili has been busy rounding up his political opponents and charging them with espionage, as his police beat demonstrators in the streets. When this happened, even our somnolent media sat up and took notice, but they seem to have forgotten.­"

and:

"GWB has presided over a regime that has legalized torture, but only for foreign "terrorists" (José Padilla excepted). Saakashvili, on the other hand, throws his domestic political opponents – whom he labels "terrorists" – in jail and tortures his own countrymen­."

Don't listen to the media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 08/11/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Wan't he duly elected by his countrymen?? I suspect a double standard by LEFTIES...­....eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 08/11/2008

Hitler was also democratically elected as a Chancellor of Germany. This in itself does not bear the aura of ultimate righteousness. The best example of it isGeorge Bush who won the national elections by the shred of a few hundred votes, then quickly shredded our constitution, legitimized torture, invaded a foreign nation under the false pretenses causing irrepairable human and material demage, and now is seeking to invade more countries to spread his "democratic" agenda. So the way you get to power means very little these days, it's what you do with the power that counts the most.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 08/11/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 388 fans permalink
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So were Ahmadinejad and Chavez if you want to get technical about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 08/11/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

No, he wasn't really "duly" elected. Putin has taken control of the media in Russia. He can now elect whomever he wants. He can oust whomever he wants. Russia is a fake democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 08/11/2008
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Putin is an ex K-G-B thug too, what else is new?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 08/11/2008
- joanndarc I'm a Fan of joanndarc 3 fans permalink

Thugs usually get educated in Harvard or Yale..The bigger ones tend to sit in Washington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 08/11/2008
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