Russia Expands Bombing Blitz Against Georgia

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MISHA DZHINDZHIKHASHVILI | August 10, 2008 10:59 PM EST | AP

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A column of Russian tanks rolls near the town of Dzhava in the separatist Georgian province of South Ossetia, Sunday, Aug. 10, 2008. Georgia called a cease-fire Sunday and said it was pulling its embattled troops out of the disputed province of South Ossetia, submitting to Russia's far superior firepower, but Moscow disputed the pullout claim. (AP Photo/Musa Sadulayev)

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatist Georgian province battered by days of intense fighting.

Russia claimed to have sunk a Georgian boat that was trying to attack Russian vessels in the Black Sea, and Georgian officials said Russia sent tanks from South Ossetia into Georgia proper, heading toward a strategic city before being turned back.

Russian planes on Sunday twice bombed an area near the Georgian capital's airport, officials said.

The violence appeared to show gargantuan Russia's determination to subdue diminutive, U.S.-backed Georgia, even at the risk of international reproach. Russia fended off a wave of international calls to observe Georgia's cease-fire, saying it must first be assured that Georgian troops have indeed pulled back from South Ossetia.

International envoys were heading in to try to end the conflict before it spreads throughout the Caucasus, a region plagued by ethnic tensions. But it was unclear what inducements or pressure the envoys could bring to bear, or to what extent either side was truly sensitive to world opinion.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili said one of the Russian raids on the airport area came a half hour before the arrival of the foreign ministers of France and Finland _ in the country to try to mediate.

Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Temur Yakobashvili said Russian tanks tried to cross from South Ossetia into the territory of Georgia proper, but were turned back by Georgian forces. He said the tanks apparently were trying to approach Gori, but did not fire on the city of about 50,000 that sits on Georgia's only significant east-west highway.

Russia also sent naval vessels to patrol off Georgia's Black Sea coast, but denied Sunday that the move was aimed at establishing a blockade.

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The ITAR-Tass news agency quoted a Russian Defense Ministry spokesman as saying that Georgian missile boats twice tried to attack Russian ships, which fired back and sank one of the Georgian vessels.

South Ossetia broke away from Georgian control in 1992. Russia granted passports to most of its residents and the region's separatist leaders sought to absorb the region into Russia.

Georgia, whose troops have been trained by American soldiers, began an offensive to regain control over South Ossetia overnight Friday, launching heavy rocket and artillery fire and air strikes that pounded the regional capital Tskhinvali. Georgia says it was responding to attacks by separatists.

In response, Russia launched massive artillery shelling and air attacks on Georgian troops.

Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin said more than 2,000 people had been killed in South Ossetia since Friday, most of them Ossetians with Russian passports. The figures could not be independently confirmed.

The respected Russian radio station Ekho Moskvy reported that two journalists were killed by South Ossetian separatists, citing a correspondent of Russian Newsweek magazine.

Thousands of civilians have fled South Ossetia _ many seeking shelter in the Russian province of North Ossetia.

"The Georgians burned all of our homes," said one elderly woman, as she sat on a bench under a tree with three other white-haired survivors of the fighting.

She seemed confused by the conflict. "The Georgians say it is their land," she said. "Where is our land, then? We don't know."

The scope of Russia's military response has the Bush administration deeply worried.

"We have made it clear to the Russians that if the disproportionate and dangerous escalation on the Russian side continues, that this will have a significant long-term impact on U.S.-Russian relations," U.S. deputy national security adviser Jim Jeffrey told reporters.

The U.S. military began flying 2,000 Georgian troops home from Iraq after Georgia recalled them, even while calling for a truce.

"Georgia expresses its readiness to immediately start negotiations with the Russian Federation on a cease-fire and termination of hostilities," the Georgian Foreign Ministry said in a statement, adding that it had notified Russia's envoy to Tbilisi.

But Russia insisted Georgian troops were continuing their attacks.

Alexander Darchiev, Russia's charge d'affairs in Washington, said Georgian soldiers were "not withdrawing but regrouping, including heavy armor and increased attacks on Tskhinvali."

"Mass mobilization is still under way," he told CNN's "Late Edition."

President Bush sought to contain the conflict in Georgia on Sunday as the White House warned that "Russian aggression must not go unanswered." Bush, in Beijing for the Olympics, has pressed for internaitonal mediation and reached out Sunday to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who heads the European Union. The two agreed on the need for a cease-fire and a respect for Georgia's integrity, a White House spokesman said.

The U.N. Security Council met for the fourth time in four days Sunday, with U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad accusing Moscow of seeking "regime change" in Georgia and resisting attempts to make peace. Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said Russians don't use the expression, but acknowledged there were occasions when elected leaders "become an obstacle."

Georgia borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia and was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union. Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia have run their own affairs without international recognition since fighting to split from Georgia in the early 1990s.

Both separatist provinces have close ties with Moscow, while Georgia has deeply angered Russia by wanting to join NATO.

Georgia's Security Council chief Alexander Lomaia said the Georgian troops had to move out of South Ossetia because of heavy Russian shelling. "Russia further escalated its aggression overnight, using weapons on an unprecedented scale," Lomaia said.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner called the hostilities in South Ossetia "massacres," hours before he and Finnish counterpart Alexander Stubb left for Tbilisi and a meeting with Saakashvili.

Kouchner said he would deliver a "message of peace" to Georgia and Russia, and call on both countries "to stop the fighting immediately."

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, meeting Saturday with South Ossetia refugees who had fled across the border to the Russian city of Vladikavkaz, described Georgia's actions as "complete genocide." Putin also said Georgia had lost the right to rule the breakaway province _ an indication Moscow could be ready to absorb the province.

Russian jets raided several Georgian air bases Saturday and bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility. The Russian warplanes also struck near the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline which carries Caspian crude to the West.

Russian officials said they were targeting Georgian communications and lines of supply. But a Russian raid Saturday on Gori near South Ossetia, which apparently targeted a military base on the town's outskirts, also killed many civilians.

Tskhinvali residents who survived the Georgian bombardment overnight Friday by hiding in basements and later fled the city estimated that hundreds of civilians had died.

The Georgian government said Sunday that 6,000 Russian troops have rolled into South Ossetia from the neighboring Russian province of North Ossetia and 4,000 more landed in Abkhazia. The Russian military wouldn't comment on troop movements.

Russia also sent a naval squadron to blockade Georgia's Black Sea coast. Ukraine, where the ships were based, warned Russia in response that it has the right to bar the ships from coming back to port because of their mission.

Both Ukraine and Georgia have sought to free themselves of Russia's influence, and to integrate into the West and join NATO.

Georgia said it has shot down 10 Russian planes, but Russia acknowledged only two.

NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said Russia violated Georgia's territorial integrity in South Ossetia and employed a "disproportionate use of force."

Adding to Georgia's woes, Russian-supported separatists in Abkhazia launched air and artillery strikes on Georgian troops to drive them out of a small part of the province they control.

Abkhazia's separatist government called out the army and reservists on Sunday and declared it would push Georgian forces out of the northern part of the Kodori Gorge, the only area of Abkhazia still under Georgian control.

Separatist Abkhazia forces also were concentrating on the border near Georgia's Zugdidi region.

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Associated Press writers David Nowak in Gori, Georgia; Douglas Birch in Vladikavkaz, Russia; and Jim Heintz, Vladimir Isachenkov and Lynn Berry in Moscow; and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report.

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatis...
TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatis...
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The illegal weapons used against civilians by Georgians are crimes that shouldn’t go unpunished. The Russians should collect the Georgians responsible for committing these atrocities and bring them to trial in their cities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

I wish I knew more. I think it would be ever so helpful for us amer Americans to be more informed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 AM on 08/11/2008
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And what about the Russians blowing innocent civilians in Tbilisi? Should they get medals? Both sides are fu cked up, neither gives a shlt about all the innocent civilians that are killed because of their goals.

So knock off the BS about either side being right or wrong, both governments (not the citizens) are as miserable as our government is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 08/11/2008
- max08 I'm a Fan of max08 48 fans permalink

Yasir is right.. Get your news from the BBC. Reporters are too uniformed in this country to assess it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 08/11/2008
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And what about the Russians blowing_innocent civilians in Tbilisi? Should they get medals? Both sides are fu cked up, neither gives a shlt about all the innocent civilians that are_killed because of their goals.

So knock off the BS about either side being right or wrong, both governments (not the citizens) are as miserable as our government is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 08/11/2008

I haven't seen any legitimate news yet reporting Russians attacking innocent civilians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

One more time. I think killing people, to make your point is beyond counter productive. When i see people shot in the head, yikes, or see men and women consumed with grief, i am them. I wish i didn't feel like that But i do. I can't stand the way our world is being wound. I want something different. Peace

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 08/11/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 226 fans permalink
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Me too, sweetheart. Unfortunately, we live in this imperfect world full of a humanity who is slow to come around to the self-preserving idea of peace. It is almost as if people have nothing better to do than find excuses to "play" with their guns and their bombs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:56 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

I hate that. What's funny is that I don't hate anything or anyone. What I am so sad about, is that there are too many people who do. Makes me wanna cry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 08/11/2008

I agree with you completely....... and sometimes the sadness consumes me.... All I want is peace as well.... When are people going to learn that w a r is not the answer.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 AM on 08/11/2008

This whole thing kinda reminds me of when the Israeli's started bombing and invading the "sovereign territory" of Lebanon a couple of years ago, and the Lebanese government practically begged the UN/US to get the Israeli's to stop. Did the Israeli's stop? Finally. Did the US encourage it, and delay the stopping of the carnage? Yes.

Are the Russians going to listen to anything the US has to say after the US has done everything it can to provoke Russia by arming and training Georgia's military, it's former territory for two hundred years, in Russia's back yard? Doubt it? Did US encourage, if not outright okay Georgia president ( CIA trained) to attack South Ossettia during opening day of Olympics? Probably, especially since only last month the US had 1000 US military trainers in Georgia training Georgia's troops. How's that for timing?

The question now is why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 08/11/2008
- max08 I'm a Fan of max08 48 fans permalink

Ynetnews has more info:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3580136,00.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 08/11/2008
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Can anyone else see a problem with the US military flying 2,000 troops back to Georgia?
What happens if the Russians shoot down the American transports?
Have the Galaxy transports got American Fighter cover?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 08/11/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
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Yah, I can see a problem with it. What concerns me more than that, is all the special ops troops we've had in Georgia for a while now. And if they might get caught in the crossfire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 AM on 08/11/2008
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One would assume that they will choose a course that would keep them away from any Russian airspace. I would doubt Russia would make such a provocative move on any U.S. transports in Georgian airspace. It would really escalate this to "above the fold" news in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 08/11/2008
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The only safe airspace that I can seeis up and through Turkey.
But the Russians control the air over Georgia, maybe they will just fly them to the top of Turkey and they can truck them in.
I don't think Russians will allow 2,000 reserves to just flow in.

Maybe the US Air force will get that air war that they have always been hoping for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 08/11/2008
- max I'm a Fan of max 11 fans permalink

Remember when the US had credibility? Eight years of incompetence wiped that away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 08/11/2008
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And the GOP is offering four years of incontinence as a solution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

Please sAY it will be Obama. Please!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 08/11/2008
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I've been trying to lighten the mood with some humorous posts tonight but seriously, doesn't the juxtaposition of the Olympics and the war between Russia and Georgia, each proceeding with a kind of obliviousness to the other, make the concept of The Olympics seem hollow?

Considering that they are being held in an oppressive nation that is even imposing its authoritarian control over the media and its people throughout the Olympics, isn't the concept relatively bankrupt?

With so many of these athletes "supertrained" since they were three or pumped up on human growth hormones or whatever while pro athletes compete against amateurs, it just seems so far away from what it used to be and represent.

And again, with this horrific Georgian/Russian war and Iraq and Afghanistan all raging because of the hatred and greed and power-lust that is unfortunately more and more prevalent, isn't it just superficial to claim a sports competition somehow brings the world together? And honestly, doesn't it instead promote nationalism instead of world unity? Aren't "we" rooting for USA to beat China and Russia and vice-versa?

Sorry to be a wet blanket but I think this Olympics set in China and occurring simultaneously with so many unnecessary wars and_deaths being caused by the same big nations touting how wonderful The Olympics are for world unity, is fully exposed this year to be an entertaining but irrelevant event with regards to the real world.

Sincerely,

The Grinch Who Stole The Olympics

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 AM on 08/11/2008
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I had already decided to boycott, so recent events just make the Olympics all the more incongruous. Everyone can watch it if they want to, but it just doesn't feel right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 08/11/2008
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Unfortunately I would have to agree, it all seems rather upside down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 08/11/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 08/11/2008

The Georgian leader who kick started this war is a dead man walking. He was too arrogant to realize the Russians were waiting for an excuse to remove his influence. Now that the bear has tasted blood, and thereby succeeded in attaining their goals, Russia may forgo the lessons of Afghanistan and employ force again.

If Russia and Iran are both intimidated, they may feel compelled to form an alliance. Between the two, they control the oil spigot and can force concessions from many countries. Too bad the Bear was awakened by the guy who was emboldened when we trained hiis army and supplied them with weapons. He probably believed the administration's militant talk and thereby believed he would be rescued. Now he is a dead man walking.

I would not put it past Cheney to deliberately mislead him into attacking Ossetia with the purpose of using the carcas of Georgia to motivate Ukrane to break ties with Russia. But that is when the Russians join a nuclear military/p­olitical/e­conomic alliance with Iran and Venezuella.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 08/11/2008

Russians should stop the retaliation now. But the international community should condemn Georgia for its barbaric action against civilians. Why did Georgia attack the breakaway region knowing well what the reaction of Russia could be? The people in this region are ethnic Russians. How do you expect Russians to sit and watch their brothern slaughtered by misguided NATO memeber wannabe Georgian leaders?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

This is far from funny. When will we as people, decide that killing people is not the answer? I hate hate having to explain why the powers that be think this is the answer to our problems. My kids want to know. They don't think it makes much sense either. Again, i ask, War what is it good for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 08/11/2008
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The Russians can justify the war by stating the Georgia has WMD, got Yellow Cake from Africa,and caim that this is part of the war on Terror.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 08/11/2008
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They should forge a document and present it to their Parliament. Works like a charm.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 08/11/2008
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this idea got wiped earlier, don't know why -

O bama should say ' we have one President at a time. while I would hope both sides would enact an immediate ceasefire to stop the killing of innocent civilians, I will not try to make foreign policy pronouncements from the campaign trail. To do so undermines our current President."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

You are my favorite. For sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 08/11/2008

There is no question that Georgia started this and is therefore the agressor. Initially Russia's response was justified, especially since the Georgian attack caused some Russian soldiers being killed. But not there are strong signs that Russia's response is disproportionate.

Since the United States has been arming and training the Georgians, this is a major international crisis. So why is our President still watching the Olympics in China instead of returning home and taking charge of the crisis? It's Katrina all over again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 08/11/2008
- Cynth I'm a Fan of Cynth 13 fans permalink

Vacations take precedence over duty. Besides, how does this conflict affect Bush?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

War! What is it good for...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 AM on 08/11/2008

Absolutely nothin'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 08/11/2008
- Kalima I'm a Fan of Kalima 73 fans permalink
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Say it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 08/11/2008
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True story.

I got a copy of that Frankie Goes to Hollywood 12" disc. For a couple weeks I thought it sounded so bizarre, but I couldn't figure out why. THEN I realized it was 45RPM! LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 AM on 08/11/2008

LOL! It took a couple of weeks? Hahahahaha­hahahah...­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 AM on 08/11/2008
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Way to set an example for other powers of the world Mr. President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 08/11/2008
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Update and alert: Cuba defeats USA in women's volleyball. M c C a i n calls for expulsion of all Cubans currently residing in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 08/11/2008
- luvobama I'm a Fan of luvobama 228 fans permalink

He did not!! Please say he didn't. I hate him enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 08/11/2008
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Joking. : ))

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 08/11/2008
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