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MISHA DZHINDZHIKHASHVILI | August 10, 2008 10:59 PM EST | AP

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A column of Russian tanks rolls near the town of Dzhava in the separatist Georgian province of South Ossetia, Sunday, Aug. 10, 2008. Georgia called a cease-fire Sunday and said it was pulling its embattled troops out of the disputed province of South Ossetia, submitting to Russia's far superior firepower, but Moscow disputed the pullout claim. (AP Photo/Musa Sadulayev)

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatist Georgian province battered by days of intense fighting.

Russia claimed to have sunk a Georgian boat that was trying to attack Russian vessels in the Black Sea, and Georgian officials said Russia sent tanks from South Ossetia into Georgia proper, heading toward a strategic city before being turned back.

Russian planes on Sunday twice bombed an area near the Georgian capital's airport, officials said.

The violence appeared to show gargantuan Russia's determination to subdue diminutive, U.S.-backed Georgia, even at the risk of international reproach. Russia fended off a wave of international calls to observe Georgia's cease-fire, saying it must first be assured that Georgian troops have indeed pulled back from South Ossetia.

International envoys were heading in to try to end the conflict before it spreads throughout the Caucasus, a region plagued by ethnic tensions. But it was unclear what inducements or pressure the envoys could bring to bear, or to what extent either side was truly sensitive to world opinion.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili said one of the Russian raids on the airport area came a half hour before the arrival of the foreign ministers of France and Finland _ in the country to try to mediate.

Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Temur Yakobashvili said Russian tanks tried to cross from South Ossetia into the territory of Georgia proper, but were turned back by Georgian forces. He said the tanks apparently were trying to approach Gori, but did not fire on the city of about 50,000 that sits on Georgia's only significant east-west highway.

Russia also sent naval vessels to patrol off Georgia's Black Sea coast, but denied Sunday that the move was aimed at establishing a blockade.

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The ITAR-Tass news agency quoted a Russian Defense Ministry spokesman as saying that Georgian missile boats twice tried to attack Russian ships, which fired back and sank one of the Georgian vessels.

South Ossetia broke away from Georgian control in 1992. Russia granted passports to most of its residents and the region's separatist leaders sought to absorb the region into Russia.

Georgia, whose troops have been trained by American soldiers, began an offensive to regain control over South Ossetia overnight Friday, launching heavy rocket and artillery fire and air strikes that pounded the regional capital Tskhinvali. Georgia says it was responding to attacks by separatists.

In response, Russia launched massive artillery shelling and air attacks on Georgian troops.

Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin said more than 2,000 people had been killed in South Ossetia since Friday, most of them Ossetians with Russian passports. The figures could not be independently confirmed.

The respected Russian radio station Ekho Moskvy reported that two journalists were killed by South Ossetian separatists, citing a correspondent of Russian Newsweek magazine.

Thousands of civilians have fled South Ossetia _ many seeking shelter in the Russian province of North Ossetia.

"The Georgians burned all of our homes," said one elderly woman, as she sat on a bench under a tree with three other white-haired survivors of the fighting.

She seemed confused by the conflict. "The Georgians say it is their land," she said. "Where is our land, then? We don't know."

The scope of Russia's military response has the Bush administration deeply worried.

"We have made it clear to the Russians that if the disproportionate and dangerous escalation on the Russian side continues, that this will have a significant long-term impact on U.S.-Russian relations," U.S. deputy national security adviser Jim Jeffrey told reporters.

The U.S. military began flying 2,000 Georgian troops home from Iraq after Georgia recalled them, even while calling for a truce.

"Georgia expresses its readiness to immediately start negotiations with the Russian Federation on a cease-fire and termination of hostilities," the Georgian Foreign Ministry said in a statement, adding that it had notified Russia's envoy to Tbilisi.

But Russia insisted Georgian troops were continuing their attacks.

Alexander Darchiev, Russia's charge d'affairs in Washington, said Georgian soldiers were "not withdrawing but regrouping, including heavy armor and increased attacks on Tskhinvali."

"Mass mobilization is still under way," he told CNN's "Late Edition."

President Bush sought to contain the conflict in Georgia on Sunday as the White House warned that "Russian aggression must not go unanswered." Bush, in Beijing for the Olympics, has pressed for internaitonal mediation and reached out Sunday to French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who heads the European Union. The two agreed on the need for a cease-fire and a respect for Georgia's integrity, a White House spokesman said.

The U.N. Security Council met for the fourth time in four days Sunday, with U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad accusing Moscow of seeking "regime change" in Georgia and resisting attempts to make peace. Russian Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said Russians don't use the expression, but acknowledged there were occasions when elected leaders "become an obstacle."

Georgia borders the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia and was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union. Both South Ossetia and Abkhazia have run their own affairs without international recognition since fighting to split from Georgia in the early 1990s.

Both separatist provinces have close ties with Moscow, while Georgia has deeply angered Russia by wanting to join NATO.

Georgia's Security Council chief Alexander Lomaia said the Georgian troops had to move out of South Ossetia because of heavy Russian shelling. "Russia further escalated its aggression overnight, using weapons on an unprecedented scale," Lomaia said.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner called the hostilities in South Ossetia "massacres," hours before he and Finnish counterpart Alexander Stubb left for Tbilisi and a meeting with Saakashvili.

Kouchner said he would deliver a "message of peace" to Georgia and Russia, and call on both countries "to stop the fighting immediately."

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, meeting Saturday with South Ossetia refugees who had fled across the border to the Russian city of Vladikavkaz, described Georgia's actions as "complete genocide." Putin also said Georgia had lost the right to rule the breakaway province _ an indication Moscow could be ready to absorb the province.

Russian jets raided several Georgian air bases Saturday and bombed the Black Sea port city of Poti, which has a sizable oil shipment facility. The Russian warplanes also struck near the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline which carries Caspian crude to the West.

Russian officials said they were targeting Georgian communications and lines of supply. But a Russian raid Saturday on Gori near South Ossetia, which apparently targeted a military base on the town's outskirts, also killed many civilians.

Tskhinvali residents who survived the Georgian bombardment overnight Friday by hiding in basements and later fled the city estimated that hundreds of civilians had died.

The Georgian government said Sunday that 6,000 Russian troops have rolled into South Ossetia from the neighboring Russian province of North Ossetia and 4,000 more landed in Abkhazia. The Russian military wouldn't comment on troop movements.

Russia also sent a naval squadron to blockade Georgia's Black Sea coast. Ukraine, where the ships were based, warned Russia in response that it has the right to bar the ships from coming back to port because of their mission.

Both Ukraine and Georgia have sought to free themselves of Russia's influence, and to integrate into the West and join NATO.

Georgia said it has shot down 10 Russian planes, but Russia acknowledged only two.

NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said Russia violated Georgia's territorial integrity in South Ossetia and employed a "disproportionate use of force."

Adding to Georgia's woes, Russian-supported separatists in Abkhazia launched air and artillery strikes on Georgian troops to drive them out of a small part of the province they control.

Abkhazia's separatist government called out the army and reservists on Sunday and declared it would push Georgian forces out of the northern part of the Kodori Gorge, the only area of Abkhazia still under Georgian control.

Separatist Abkhazia forces also were concentrating on the border near Georgia's Zugdidi region.

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Associated Press writers David Nowak in Gori, Georgia; Douglas Birch in Vladikavkaz, Russia; and Jim Heintz, Vladimir Isachenkov and Lynn Berry in Moscow; and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report.

TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatis...
TBILISI, Georgia — Russia battled Georgian forces on land and sea, reports said late Sunday, despite a Georgian cease-fire offer and its claim to be withdrawing from South Ossetia, the separatis...
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Flagged again.

Go buy a Do It Yourself Bris kit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 08/11/2008
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With a dull blade and the required magnifying glass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 08/11/2008

Do-it-yourself, I hope LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 08/11/2008
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I don't know AdamWykle from Adam, but Israel is very deeply involved in Georgia and has about 1000 military trainers there. There are rumors that these trainers have taken up active combat against the Russians, but I don't know if this is true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 08/11/2008
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I wonder if VP and GWB are still getting googly eyed over at the summer games? I looked in his eyes........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 08/11/2008

But 43 saw a man he could trust when he looked deeply into his eyes...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 08/11/2008
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It was love at first sight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 08/11/2008

Evil knows evil when it sees it..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 08/11/2008

Ooo... I got pending for this.....

Ev il knows Ev il when it sees it.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 08/11/2008

Any report of the 7th fleet moving to the Black Sea??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 08/11/2008
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Only this dispatch which was snagged from a sub-space communique; the author; Emperor Palpatine himself: "Send the fleet to the far side of Endor... there it will stay until called for".
The plot thickens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 08/11/2008
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According to The Nation http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/amess), the U.S., Britain and Georgia turned down an agreement with Russia at an emergency U.N. Security Council meeting early Friday because we didn't want to agree to "renounce the use of force." Does this mean we could have stopped this, but didn't?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 08/10/2008
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Yes.

"At the request of Russia, the U.N. Security Council held an emergency session in New York but failed to reach consensus early Friday [08/08/08] on a Russian-drafted statement.

"The council concluded it was at a stalemate after the United States, Britain and some other members backed the Georgians in rejecting a phrase in the three-sentence draft statement that would have required both sides "to renounce the use of force," council diplomats said."

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/ames

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 08/11/2008
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It really backfired. Its easy not to agree to renounce to the use of force, when you are not in the line of fire

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 08/11/2008
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G.D. it!

Another phuque-up by "W". Oh, wait, he was AWOL wasn't he?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 08/11/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 357 fans permalink
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The NeoCons strike again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 08/11/2008
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G.D. it!

Another phucke-up by "W". Oh, wait, he was A_W_O_L wasn't he?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 AM on 08/11/2008

And this is why diplomacy matters. It can prevent wars, save lives, stop suffering. We can only hope that the next President of the United States recognizes this age-old truism.

I'm sure we have Bush-Cheney and their hatred for real negotiations with foreign nations *partly* to thank for this debacle. But Putin is the same man who probably ordered a "false flag" bombing operation against his own nation to provide justification for invading Chechnya, and succeeded in provoking this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 08/11/2008
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Just finished the article. We could have stopped it. We clearly gave them the Big Wink. Thanks for posting this article! Anyone who wants to know what happened must read this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 08/11/2008
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Great, another war for oil -- that's what this is. With our credibility lost, there is nothing we can do. Great job Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 08/10/2008

That seems to be the way it's shaping up. 43's comments about respecting sovereign nations and their borders was just to ironic for words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 08/11/2008
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Are McCain supporters all this demented..?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 08/10/2008
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yes.that's apparent,isnt it?it comes with being a f a s c i s t.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 08/11/2008
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It's been pretty tough on Republicans, scrapping the bottom of the barrel and all....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 08/11/2008
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The U.S. response makes no sense. The Georgian rebels are for the most part Islamist Extremists aren't they? And the U.S. is supposedly involved in a war with Islamist Extremists right? So why isn't the U.S. welcoming Russia as an ally and their efforts a valuable front in the war?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 08/10/2008
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" The Georgian rebels are for the most part Islamist Extremists " - please tell me you're joking !

PLEASE !!!!

Go look at the Georgian flag! Does it look like anything Islamist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 08/10/2008
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Uh ... no. Georgians are Orthodox Christians ... about 85%

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/11/2008
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is this your take on 'facts'?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 08/11/2008
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According to a Russian General on Pravda, Georgia has Israeli advisors on the battlefield. Its no wonder the US media is so pro-Georgian!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 08/10/2008

This is where they get most of their oil these days. Between exon and them, it is fun to watch both sweat this one out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/11/2008
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israel announced a halt of weapons shipments to georgia,yesterday,after russian complaints.seems the israeli's dont want to make russia mad,while america is stretched so thin ,thanks to b u s h and gallil and saulgoode.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/11/2008

By constantly asking as to when the Democratic nominee is ending his vacation, the tr0lls seem to be admitting that he is more qualified to deal with the situation than either the current Resident or the Republican nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 08/10/2008
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Hmmmmmmm........somebody is wearing his rabbit ears tonight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 08/10/2008
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Kinda like they wanted Jesse Jackson to handle this before even asking "W" or Mayor McCheese the other night.

heh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 08/10/2008
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Yep. And is not H a w a i i a state? They act as though he's in a foreign country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 08/11/2008

Will Russia need five-plus years to defeat a vastly inferior force?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 08/10/2008
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Mc.Cain calls for Russia to stop bombing of Czechoslovakia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 08/10/2008
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He's calling for the support of President Putin of Germany.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 08/10/2008

I hear that he's also concerned about the Ottoman Empire's threat to Constantinople.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 08/11/2008
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But Putins 200000 germans call for Obama :(

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 AM on 08/11/2008
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He is calling for a surge in The Bahamas

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 08/10/2008
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"At the request of Russia, the U.N. Security Council held an emergency session in New York but failed to reach consensus early Friday on a Russian-drafted statement.

"The council concluded it was at a stalemate after the US, Britain and some other members backed the Georgians in rejecting a phrase in the three-sentence draft statement that would have required both sides "to renounce the use of force," council diplomats said."

-- From Reuters, Aug. 8

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-strikes-as-%20georgia-moves-against-rebels-888487.html

Also, http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/ames

So, the U.S. and Britain teamed up with Georgia on Friday to kill a peace accord because we couldn't renounce the use of force? Unsurprisingly, it looks we're in this up to our necks, and we've helped make a mess of things, as usual.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 08/10/2008
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Is Putin out to rebuild the Stalinist empire?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 08/10/2008
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Not Putin, but rather, Saakashvili, he cherishes Stalin's legacy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 08/10/2008
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Seems so. That, and a grab for oil pipelines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 08/10/2008

Have been to Russia 3 times for extended periods. I can tell you Putin is not out to put the Soviet Union back together again. He is out to restore Rusians pride and strength and show the world that Russia cannot be pushed around and dismissed as it was during the 90s under Yeltsin.

He's going to start by taking the former republics that "don't behave" to the woodshed. My guess is they intend to change leadership in Georgia or force a humiliating peace. Ukraine better watch itself.

We need Russia's help against the radical moslems and they have the oil and gas we need if we are ever to get out of the middleast. If we were smarter we'd be trying to get on their good side instead of antagonize them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 08/10/2008
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no.just protecting his troops who were attacked and killed.how stupid of georgia was that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 08/10/2008
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Try to do a little research, not on Fix News, to learn what the conflict its all about

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 08/11/2008
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Folks, I want you all to know that I had a great time here all day today.
It was a great topic of ' conversation ' and I learned quite a bit here today.
Huff Po and all it's members rock ( yeah, even the Repugs ).
I'm signing of for today at 8:40P.M. Pacific time.
Talk to all of you soon.

VIVA BARACK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 08/10/2008

Sadly, McCain will probably get a bump out of this, even though the foreign policy he touts was the CAUSE of this crisis! I'm glad we goaded the Georgians into attacking Russia and now are leaving them to be slaughtered... We look incredibly weak and helpless against the Russians...

Obama needs to make it clear that this is the result of eight years of failed foreign policy of the Bush administration, and electing McCain would only make problems like these worse!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 08/10/2008
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