McCain Seizes On Russia-Georgia Conflict During Obama's Vacation

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First Posted: 08-11-08 12:35 PM   |   Updated: 09-11-08 05:12 AM

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Maybe Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin didn't get the memo. World leaders are supposed to grease the skids on the global stage for Barack Obama, not turn long-simmering regional tensions into boiling international incidents during the one week the presumptive Democratic nominee takes a vacation.

All kidding aside, Russia and Georgia likely don't care one way or the other right now about how their conflict plays in America's presidential campaign. But those who do care should note that John McCain currently has the field to himself in addressing the hot international topic of the week.

In a statement released to reporters, McCain not only recapitulates points he made over the weekend, but goes into full-blown professor mode, educating Americans about the history of Georgia and its importance to America's interests.

"Georgia is an ancient country, at the crossroads of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and one of the world's first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion," McCain said Monday. "After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922. As the Soviet Union crumbled at the end of the Cold War, Georgia regained its independence in 1991, but its early years were marked by instability, corruption, and economic crises."

It goes on like this, charting the rise of the Rose Revolution that brought President Mikheil Saakashvili to power. The message is not so much about the conflict, but about McCain being in total command of the facts.

Meanwhile, the Obama campaign is standing pat with its weekend statement. An aide said the campaign didn't see McCain gaining any great traction with the traveling press with on Georgia and played down the need to respond with anything new while Obama is on vacation.

But Steve Clemons, director of the non-partisan New American Foundation, disagrees -- on both the substance and the politics. "There are two levels of ways to look at this: what kind of leadership is needed in terms of diplomacy, and what plays well with American voters."

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Thus far, Clemons believes Obama is faring poorly on both counts. On the politics side, McCain has staked out a useful, if not especially nuanced, position of standing by Georgia and "pointing a big finger at Russia," Clemons said. "It plays to the sense that McCain is decisive and can give people a lesson in this part of the world that's obscure for many Americans."

By contrast, Clemons said Obama's weekend statement was "tepid, McCain lite," adding that he has an opportunity to rebut some of the neocon arguments being made on Georgia's behalf by the likes of Bill Kristol (for more on this, see Matthew Yglesias).

"It's not just who rolled their tanks in first," Clemons says of the Russia-Georgia conflict. "It's a question of the other interlocking pieces of this. How did we get there? One, America has been, at best, disinterested in Russia's interests of late. When Kosovo declared its independence, we completely ignored Russia's statements at the time -- when they were promising us payback."

What's more, Clemons says, Obama could work the Georgia angle into his broader critique of "Bush's own inattention and getting us trapped in parts of the world that make our deterrent capability [not respected]."

But if Obama really is missing an opportunity here, how big is it? According to Brian Katulis at the Center for American Progress, it's not huge. "I suspect there's not a good time for anybody who's running for president to go on vacation," Katulis said, adding that he does agree that McCain is attempting to capitalize. "It is being used as an opportunity to score more points in the national security realm, but I don't know that it benefits him that strongly, or how much people are paying attention."

Katulis, who has also provided advice to Obama on foreign policy, said he expects there will be a cessation of hostilities between the two sides before long. When that happens, he said, he thinks the issue will "fade in the face of Olympic news, and also economic concerns at home and summer vacations."

Political consultants often advise candidates to undertake activities that "average" Americans like and understand. After his disastrous excursion into bowling in Pennsylvania, perhaps Obama was simply due to catch a political break by doing what lots of Americans do in August, and simply take a rest from the world's problems.

Maybe Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin didn't get the memo. World leaders are supposed to grease the skids on the global stage for Barack Obama, not turn long-simmer...
Maybe Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin didn't get the memo. World leaders are supposed to grease the skids on the global stage for Barack Obama, not turn long-simmer...
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- PumaAnn I'm a Fan of PumaAnn 27 fans permalink

Mistake on o's part to respond so weakly initially. Mac comes off looking like the real deal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 08/11/2008
- Shelly1970 I'm a Fan of Shelly1970 9 fans permalink

AnninCA (aka PumaAnn),

You were a yawner and transparent during the primaries and, we all clearly see, you haven't changed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 08/11/2008
- reliant1 I'm a Fan of reliant1 24 fans permalink
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pumann aka pantsuit dem - mcmonster was always your strong man...but having found wikipedia he'll be good for your cerebral side too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 08/11/2008
- SeeDaddy I'm a Fan of SeeDaddy 8 fans permalink

Your "real deal" copped most of his speech on Georgia from wikipedia almost verbatum. He and Bush wag their finger and scowl. Bush says ""These actions have substantially damaged Russia’s standing in the world..." He ought to know. US standing tanked after with his conspiracy to concoct phony documents and intelligence about WMDs, yellow cake, etc. to invade and occupy a nation that did not and could pose a threat to theUS. The mighty Bush and the US have no moral ground to denounce Russia's invasion of Georgia. We did worse in Iraq. The war in Iraq made us incapable of doing anything about Georgia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 08/11/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 388 fans permalink
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So, if I get this right, McCain's sternly worded warning to Russia was more sternly worded than Obama's sternly worded warning to Russia. Somehow this proves that Republicans are tough and Democrats are weak (at best) or communist sympathizers (at worst), even though Russia hasn't been communist for over a decade.

I guess in right-wing world it somehow makes sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 08/11/2008
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Sounds like your ready to kneel down for McBush.

That's great I hope you don't plan on making as much as a man makes for the another four years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 PM on 08/11/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 279 fans permalink
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Mc CRAZY only knows what his handler tell him AND HE CAN'T REMEMBER THAT !!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 08/11/2008
- Zoolie I'm a Fan of Zoolie 4 fans permalink

McCain has no leadership experience, despite all his hype. His brain is so addled, he's probably expecting Putin to cross the border into Alabama next.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 08/11/2008
- mari2JJ I'm a Fan of mari2JJ 37 fans permalink

Remember McCain pushed to sent the "surge" to Iraq and now leaves us with NO troops to do anything about Russia's move into Georgia if that is needed. Hmm, that leaves us with inadequate troops to finish off Afghanistan mess and now the Georgia invasion by Russia. So much for the McCain judgment and remember, Obama warned about this very thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 08/11/2008

You slay me!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 08/12/2008
- ShamusNYC I'm a Fan of ShamusNYC 12 fans permalink

First of all, wasn't it McC who told America - TWICE - that B was the guy to lead the country, implying that he respected his leadership on these issues? So, where is his wonderful judgement?

Secondly, isn't Rice supposed to be an expert in Russian relations?

Why should we trust McC to lead the country now? He's largely responsible for where we are now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 08/11/2008
- darker I'm a Fan of darker 40 fans permalink

what are MCAIN's civilized values?

REPUBLICAN VALUES?

CORRUPTION, DENIAL, INVASIONS, WARS, PROFITEERING, LYING, CHEATING, STEALING, creating a NANNY STATE FOR THE RICH. Mocking and trashing REAL VALUES like TRUTH, HONESTY, STATESMANSHIP, LOYALTY TO COUNTRY not just party.

MCCAIN = MORE OF THE SAME.
hah, he should talk!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 08/11/2008
- zigzag1 I'm a Fan of zigzag1 6 fans permalink

Looks like Cindy helped John find Wikipedia. Doofus!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 08/11/2008

HA HA that was good

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 08/11/2008
- wanj I'm a Fan of wanj 7 fans permalink

There are still a few journalists out there with brain cells left... thank Gawd!!!

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/08/11/obama-s-highfalutin-hawaiian-vacation.aspx

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 08/11/2008

I don't believe one word Bush or Rice has to say about this conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 08/11/2008
- jupitor I'm a Fan of jupitor 2 fans permalink

Ya mccain stole his speech on georgia from Wilipedia! check it out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 08/11/2008
- tigs I'm a Fan of tigs permalink

of course it wasnt his words ,probably an aide found it , mc cain isnt that profound , totally out of character, i doubt he could repeat any of it off the cuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 08/11/2008
- lincheryl I'm a Fan of lincheryl 6 fans permalink

Especially impressive is the fact that he mispronounced Saakashvili three times and pretty much copied the speech from Wikipedia. I don't think he actually found it himself. Someone must have pulled it up for him.

He is like a sit com.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 08/11/2008

Anyone still on the fence that Mc Cain's attitude, tone and cowboy style to foreign policy is ANY different than Bushes? McBush, Talking tough and making threats just like his twin. O is doing the right thing, don't let your first response be a threats when you don't "one" have the facts and "two" no plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 08/11/2008

"Allowing time for peace will only allow Saddam Hussein to prepare for war." - John McCain.

Where's his credibility? Didn't he help push this nation into an unnecessary "regime-change" war under false pretenses?

How can the people who waged the war in Iraq, criticize the Russians of the very thing they are guilty of. The only difference is we waged war in the name of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY.­.....But the Russians targeted civilians you say.....Th­ere have been 86,606 – 94,487 documented civilian deaths from violence in Iraq.

This war is WRONG, but it comes out of the VERY same philosophy, and rational as our own White House, and Republican neocons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 08/11/2008

Once again, Barack Obama comes off as a true leader who doesn't turn international events for political points (at least more subtley). He has been outspoken on this issure, much more than McCain and has shown better judgement, and general knowledge (IVY league education kicking in)

http://www.mfa.gov.ge/index.php?lang_id=ENG&sec_id=78&info_id=6991

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 08/11/2008

What exactly are you doing by using the event to say that Obama is a better leader? Forget this political bickering. An American politician has issued a great statement condemning Russian agression - good for him. This event should at least be unifying for Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 08/11/2008

this can't be unifying for Americans unless GW and McCain stops the bully tactics and in turn have Russia ready start a war with us. We cannot afford a third war at this time We simply can't. Besides - the world is aware that GW and McCain are just blowing hot air and they can't back it up. This just makes us look really really stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 08/11/2008
- cwar I'm a Fan of cwar permalink

McBush is just angry that HE and his party didnt get to invade Georgia first!!!
But then again he is so dumb he woulda run tanks down to Atlanta instead!!!

His reply woulda been "We cannot let another Civil War between the north and the south tear apart our great nation"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 08/11/2008
- Crowhaul I'm a Fan of Crowhaul 13 fans permalink
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According to Reuters, McCain has requested that his staffers 'quietly look into' shipping cigarettes to Russia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 08/11/2008
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Isn't this Bush's job. I guess he's too busy muffing volleyballs. Whose overstepping their authority now. I think Bush emailed him, but unfortunately McCain doesn't know how to retrieve his email.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 08/11/2008

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/russia...

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin criticized the United States for viewing Georgia as the victim, instead of the aggressor, and for airlifting Georgian troops back home from Iraq on Sunday.

"Of course, Saddam Hussein ought to have been hanged for destroying several Shiite villages," Putin said in Moscow. "And the incumbent Georgian leaders who razed ten Ossetian villages at once, who ran elderly people and children with tanks, who burned civilian alive in their sheds _ these leaders must be taken under protection­."

The U.S. military was flying Georgian troops back home from Iraq and informed the Russians about the flights ahead of time to avoid mishaps, said one military official said Monday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the subject on the record.

Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman said Monday morning that U.S. officials expect to have all Georgian troops out of Iraq by the end of the day.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 08/11/2008
- jupitor I'm a Fan of jupitor 2 fans permalink

Announcement! Mccain stole his speech from Wikipedia folks! Not his own words! Ha Ha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 08/11/2008

Why don't you report that McCains' foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, was a registered lobbyist for Georgia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 08/11/2008
- sharpz111 I'm a Fan of sharpz111 2 fans permalink

Who does McCain think he is?

If all these statements aren't presumptuous I don't know what is! Somehow I don't think McCain expects a reply from the Kremlin, or even for them to listen to him.

This is for home consumption. This is 'Presidential', or so the political consultants running McCain's campaign would say - might be good for the poll numbers!

Never mind that jumping in and blaming Russia for igniting the conflict before the White House properly responded undermines the US Government, or that Vladimir Putin doesn't give a rats ass what John McCain thinks.

McCain is trying to look tough. Trying to look more 'Presidential' than Bush, and trying to get some limelight whilst Obama is off the cable news scene for a week. It's basically a good excuse for the same 'Commander­-in-Chief' foreign policy crap that is apparently the only area where McCain thinks he has an advantage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 08/11/2008

Spot on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 08/11/2008
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