McCain Seizes On Russia-Georgia Conflict During Obama's Vacation

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First Posted: 08-11-08 12:35 PM   |   Updated: 09-11-08 05:12 AM

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Maybe Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin didn't get the memo. World leaders are supposed to grease the skids on the global stage for Barack Obama, not turn long-simmering regional tensions into boiling international incidents during the one week the presumptive Democratic nominee takes a vacation.

All kidding aside, Russia and Georgia likely don't care one way or the other right now about how their conflict plays in America's presidential campaign. But those who do care should note that John McCain currently has the field to himself in addressing the hot international topic of the week.

In a statement released to reporters, McCain not only recapitulates points he made over the weekend, but goes into full-blown professor mode, educating Americans about the history of Georgia and its importance to America's interests.

"Georgia is an ancient country, at the crossroads of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and one of the world's first nations to adopt Christianity as an official religion," McCain said Monday. "After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922. As the Soviet Union crumbled at the end of the Cold War, Georgia regained its independence in 1991, but its early years were marked by instability, corruption, and economic crises."

It goes on like this, charting the rise of the Rose Revolution that brought President Mikheil Saakashvili to power. The message is not so much about the conflict, but about McCain being in total command of the facts.

Meanwhile, the Obama campaign is standing pat with its weekend statement. An aide said the campaign didn't see McCain gaining any great traction with the traveling press with on Georgia and played down the need to respond with anything new while Obama is on vacation.

But Steve Clemons, director of the non-partisan New American Foundation, disagrees -- on both the substance and the politics. "There are two levels of ways to look at this: what kind of leadership is needed in terms of diplomacy, and what plays well with American voters."

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Thus far, Clemons believes Obama is faring poorly on both counts. On the politics side, McCain has staked out a useful, if not especially nuanced, position of standing by Georgia and "pointing a big finger at Russia," Clemons said. "It plays to the sense that McCain is decisive and can give people a lesson in this part of the world that's obscure for many Americans."

By contrast, Clemons said Obama's weekend statement was "tepid, McCain lite," adding that he has an opportunity to rebut some of the neocon arguments being made on Georgia's behalf by the likes of Bill Kristol (for more on this, see Matthew Yglesias).

"It's not just who rolled their tanks in first," Clemons says of the Russia-Georgia conflict. "It's a question of the other interlocking pieces of this. How did we get there? One, America has been, at best, disinterested in Russia's interests of late. When Kosovo declared its independence, we completely ignored Russia's statements at the time -- when they were promising us payback."

What's more, Clemons says, Obama could work the Georgia angle into his broader critique of "Bush's own inattention and getting us trapped in parts of the world that make our deterrent capability [not respected]."

But if Obama really is missing an opportunity here, how big is it? According to Brian Katulis at the Center for American Progress, it's not huge. "I suspect there's not a good time for anybody who's running for president to go on vacation," Katulis said, adding that he does agree that McCain is attempting to capitalize. "It is being used as an opportunity to score more points in the national security realm, but I don't know that it benefits him that strongly, or how much people are paying attention."

Katulis, who has also provided advice to Obama on foreign policy, said he expects there will be a cessation of hostilities between the two sides before long. When that happens, he said, he thinks the issue will "fade in the face of Olympic news, and also economic concerns at home and summer vacations."

Political consultants often advise candidates to undertake activities that "average" Americans like and understand. After his disastrous excursion into bowling in Pennsylvania, perhaps Obama was simply due to catch a political break by doing what lots of Americans do in August, and simply take a rest from the world's problems.

Maybe Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin didn't get the memo. World leaders are supposed to grease the skids on the global stage for Barack Obama, not turn long-simmer...
Maybe Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin didn't get the memo. World leaders are supposed to grease the skids on the global stage for Barack Obama, not turn long-simmer...
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- SCG2 I'm a Fan of SCG2 24 fans permalink

Everyone rest easy Mc Cranky is on top of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 08/11/2008

What McCain is doing may not seem impressive to policy wonks, but it will look impressive to the medium and low information voters. And there are a lot more of them around than policy wonks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 08/11/2008

Give Obama a break. He'll be fine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 08/11/2008

This is wishful thinking. Unless Obama seizes the initiative on this, McCain is going to gain ground and may even take the lead in the polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 08/11/2008

I am an Obama supporter and think he is making a mistake not have a press conference regarding the situation in Georgia. I realize he is on vacation, and after the long primary he deserves a vacation. But, when he is president, he will have to stop vacations when world crisis break out. He needs to show his leadership ability in this situation. A situation that could change the international landscape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 08/11/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

He already did ... on Friday!! Sure you're supportive or just being critical!!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 08/11/2008

Compare Obama's tepid statement with the statements that McCain is making that make him look presidential to middle America. So far on this issue McCain is running circles around Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 08/11/2008
- MyAudacity I'm a Fan of MyAudacity 18 fans permalink
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There can be only one Commander in Chief at a time. This is George Bush's baby to handle, and Obama is doing right to continue with his vacation, while monitoring the situation.­..answer if asked, but not interject himself presumptiously as if he was already the President.

McCain is being McCain....­being opportunistic, while not doing a damn thing...bu­t being an overblown motormouth.

A walking, grinning talking point.....­when he's allowed to speak by those who command him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 08/11/2008

They want him to stop acting like the President one moment, then the next moment "why is he on vacation while Russia and Georgia go at it?" Hello, we have a President, a sorry excuse for a human, but a President voting in by the people. Let him handle this issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 08/11/2008

This is the equivalent to the 3 A.M. phone call as far as the political campaign is concerned.
If you are on vacation, no matter how deserved, when you get the 3A.M. phone call, you need to cancell it and do all needed to deal with the problem. If he wants to win, he should have immediately cancelled the vacation and flown to his campaign headquarters in Chicago. And he should be issuing statements that show that he has better command of the situation than McCain.

Once again the Obama campaign has allowed McCain to gain the initialtive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 08/11/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

What did a 3 a.m. phone call ad do for its author!!??

Once again Mc puts his foot where it does not belong ... in a surface thinking Wilipedia lifted, written statement on foreign affairs!! How shallow is that!!??

Mc needs to cease his unbelievably stupid sabre rattlings about kicking Russia out of G-8!! In fact Mc needs to stop talking out of his @rse about anything of importance to america!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 08/11/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

"Wikipedia" ... article above!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 08/11/2008

I know exactly what you mean: like a goat reading about another goat while the towers fell.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 08/11/2008

Be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. Obama has been showing his style. Brash statements and a cowboy attitude got us into a lot of the situations we're in now. Perhaps letting the world take a deep breath and actually analyzing the situation would have longer term benefits. I thought we would have learned that after rushing into Iraq or more recently with the assassination of Bhutto. Sometimes things are not as clear as they seem at first glance.

McCain talks a good game but was in such a rush to be tough and certain that he lifted his speech on Georgia from Wikipedia. Behind the scenes diplomacy is needed now and not some maverick sticking pins in the tail of one of the other lions in the world. What do we actually gain from more cowboy talk as opposed to careful deliberation and diplomacy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 08/11/2008

Evidently Russians are not giving a hoot to what GW, Rice, or the European leaders are saying. Let alone barkings of a grand standing "presidential candidate" like Johnny Mac.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 08/11/2008

But the voters will pay attention to what the candidates are saying.

So far on this issue McCain is running circles around Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 08/11/2008
- MyAudacity I'm a Fan of MyAudacity 18 fans permalink
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I am a voter, and I don't give a hoot about what McCain has to say. This is all just psychology at this point....e­veryone knows who they are going to vote for, and it would have to be something pretty dramatic to make a person change their mind.

McCain's silly little do nothing speech should only remind folks that he has someone on his campaign who has profited from Georgia, and may even have been aware of the situation that before it occurred. It is amazing that this happened during the week Obama went on vacation, and McCain has a guy in his campaign with close ties to Georgia.

Why has that not been considered

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 08/11/2008

We should be paying attention to what Bush is saying. But...he's not saying nothing. Last time I looked he was POTUS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 08/11/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

What do you consider "running circles around Obama" to actually mean??

Was it not Mc & probably you who accused O of being presumptuous!? Now you presume that Mc is running circles around O because he gives a 3rd grade essay on Georgian history??? Give it a rest Captain or you too will be presumed ignorant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 08/11/2008

Got a culefor you Capt. The voters don't give a rats $ss about Georgia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 08/11/2008
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It may be better for Obama to step back from this for a couple of days. His rational approach of getting both sides to stop shooting and start talking to each other probably isn't as spectacular or newsworthy as the nonsense that the McFox camp will come up with.
No matter what Obama says, he'll be falsely labeled as a closet Muslim AND a Soviet sympathizer.

@poco767b & helonias
Them Reds, they's-a still out there I tell ya! Just waitin' for the day they can rise up and fluoridate our water supply!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 08/11/2008
- SMP I'm a Fan of SMP 17 fans permalink
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Clemons is speaking as if McCains speech was original..­..........­...well buddy it wasnt..it was copied straight from Wikipedia.­..........­.....no leadership there eh???? McCain gets a "F" for original thinking

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 08/11/2008

McCain is addlepated and would not be able to give an original speech even if he did have a complete grasp of the issues.

Let's watch McCain's buddies in the main stream media ignore McCain's plagerisim.

Once again McCain proves that he is not strong on foreign policy and national security.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 PM on 08/11/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

He brings nothing!! He still has not explained where the hell he plans to store nuclear waste!! Perhaps in he & missy's backyard!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 08/11/2008
- jrterrier I'm a Fan of jrterrier 5 fans permalink

no, it wasn't copied from wikipedia. you are the one that is parroting another overblown and inaccurate huffpost headline. if you actually compare the speech and the info on wikipedia the similarities relate only to actual facts and dates, about when it became independent and that type of thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 08/11/2008
- edwarvir I'm a Fan of edwarvir 36 fans permalink

John McCain knows how to WIN a WAR! So he saids ! Okay my friend You have the
stage all to yourself tell us what to do. End this War .Don't worry about Senator O
you have the world stage all to your War Loving self . Tell your friend Bush
what to do. to end this Conflict Here's a thought what about a Surge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 08/11/2008
- Moxo I'm a Fan of Moxo 11 fans permalink

Ahh, the irony of it all - Iraq has the Kurds wanting their own little state, Georgia has Abkhazia and South Ossetia wanting theirs.

Has McCain suggested we send troops yet?? He won't, since fmost Americans are tired of war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 08/11/2008

LMAO

McCain's big foreign policy and national security speech ripped from Wikipedia!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/did-mccain-plagiarize-his_n_118207.html

Once again proof that it's nothing but a myth that McCain is strong on foreign policy and national security.

Of course the main stream media will allow their buddy McCain to get a pass on this as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 08/11/2008
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"That's not change we can believe in."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 08/11/2008
- MyAudacity I'm a Fan of MyAudacity 18 fans permalink
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OMG! LOL! I can hear him say that in his smarmy voice.....­with that cheesy grin, in frong of that awful yellow sign.....T­hat really should rank as the worst speech ever....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 08/11/2008
- jrterrier I'm a Fan of jrterrier 5 fans permalink

have any of you actually compared the wikipedia article and what obama said. stop the echo chamber. it doesn't help.

besides, what's most important is that this is a real crisis. what if russia decides to try to invade all of the former soviet nations. and this fight is over oil and the pipeline that runs through georgia and south ossetia. if this isn't resolved soon, we are going to be beholden to both arab and russian oil. $4/gallon tank is going to seem like a gift.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 08/11/2008

Oh, these are the people responsible for the high price of oil?

I was honestly under the mis-impression that it was Bush's oil buddies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 08/11/2008

McCain gets all of the media attention and he blows it!! McCain makes the worse gaffs ever.
His speach has been plagerized!! Got to love it. This proves McCain is nothing but an addlepated empty suit. Nothing but a puppet who needs Lieberman and Graham to whisper in his ear.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/did-mccain-plagiarize-his_n_118207.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 08/11/2008
- edwarvir I'm a Fan of edwarvir 36 fans permalink

John McCains speech was too long, and painfully borring I didn't hear ANY solution
in his speech as to how to settle this war between Russia and Georgia. He did
say a couple of weeks ago that he is the ONE that knows how to win a WAR.
Well John Bush needs to hear from you. YOU HAVE THE STAGE MY FRIEND
FRONT AND CENTER. SO NOW THE WORLD WAITS FOR YOU TO TELL GEORGIA
AND RUSSIA WHAT TO DO. Stop worrying about Senator O and his campaign and
tell Bush Cheney and the president of Georgia what to do to end this CONFLICT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 08/11/2008
- TKI I'm a Fan of TKI permalink

Russia's conflict with Georgia has a much broader political implication than immediately meets the eye. The US must be very careful not to fall into Putin's trap to make the obvious all the more so by portraying it as a toothless bulldog in the world arena, especially when it comes to the deterance of Russia, and comparable millitary powers. The wiser approach here would have been through the UN; but we had proven, through the invasion of Iraq, that we do not hold that path in high regard. So, are we going to threaten the Russians too with air strikes and sanctions if they sustain their military campaign in Georgia? Had we shown a little respect to the institution of the United Nations and bolstered, rather than diminished, what it could stand for, we would be expecting the same respect from the Russians.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 08/11/2008
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let me get this straight..­. Obama should cut his much needed time with his family short because Americans will question his diplomacy regarding something between Georgia and Russia? As an American voter this issue does nothing to sway me towards McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 08/11/2008

No the argument about Obama being on vacation is to detract from McCain's speech has been ripped from Wikipedia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/did-mccain-plagiarize-his_n_118207.html

Got to love it McCain - the guy claim is so experienced and the main stream media has built up as being strong on national security and foreign policy rips his foreign policy off of Wikipedia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/did-mccain-plagiarize-his_n_118207.html

WHAT A JOKE. I am so loving this just LMAO!!!

McCain is dumb and his national security and foreign policy team are even dumber for thinking that they could rip a high school quality paper off of the internet and no one would notice.

Too bad McCain does not use the "internets" - if he did he might have saved himself from much embarrassment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 08/11/2008
- BlueZoo I'm a Fan of BlueZoo 44 fans permalink

John McCain's comment re "civilized values" tells me more about this man than anything else he's ever said. His civilized values are all those related to convenience, both in his private and his public life. I'd write in a vote before I'd even think of giving my precious life into the care of this man!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 08/11/2008
- who38 I'm a Fan of who38 67 fans permalink

Thank you. He probably couldnt' define either "civilized" or "values" even with Joe's help.....n­ot that Joe would be much help in this instance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 08/11/2008

BLUEZOO:

McCain's comments are ripped straight from Wikipedia. No the argument about Obama being on vacation is to detract from McCain's speech has been ripped from Wikipedia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/did-mccain-plagiarize-his_n_118207.html

Got to love it McCain - the guy claim is so experienced and the main stream media has built up as being strong on national security and foreign policy rips his foreign policy off of Wikipedia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/11/did-mccain-plagiarize-his_n_118207.html

WHAT A JOKE. I am so loving this just LMAO!!!

McCain is dumb and his national security and foreign policy team are even dumber for thinking that they could rip a high school quality paper off of the internet and no one would notice.

Too bad McCain does not use the "internets" - if he did he might have saved himself from much embarrassment.

So, much for the myth that the main stream media loves to parrot that McCain is strong on national security and foreign policy.
McCain is an addlepated jerk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 08/11/2008
- Organotic I'm a Fan of Organotic 4 fans permalink

The Obama camp should turn this around on McCain questioning both the authenticity of his speech as well as his presumptive presidential attitude about the situation.

The reality is that there is really nothing that can be done regardless of what McSame or Obama would want for them to do. Absent from McSame's wikipedia speech this morning was the fact that Russia has been bombing the borders of Georgia for years baiting them to fight back in order to justify attacking and invading them. They did the same thing with the car bombs that they, themselves, planted in order to justify invading Chechnya.

So what are you going to do? They are a nuclear armed state that has deep levels of paranoia with respect to having western influence on their borders and other countries controlling their self perceived oil supplies.

If nothing else this was bad timing for Obama but what can you say? The guy has been campaigning non-stop for the last year and a half. McSame has coasted on a free ride since February and hasn't even been to the Senate since April.

But at least we know that he may be able to use a computer if he got his speech from wikipedia. Or no, that was his campaign staff that got it... never mind!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 08/11/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

Just saw a short clip on CNN, Obama on "Friday" gave a very short statement re: Russia/Georgia conflict! O said that he supports Georgia's sovereignty and hoped that the two sides will resolve this matter peacefully. The reporter stated that O was not as severe or harsh as Mc is/was in his total lecturing of Russia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 08/11/2008
- PoliJunkie I'm a Fan of PoliJunkie 17 fans permalink

I mean dam if he does dam if doesn't. And if by chance he cut his vacation short (I pray he doesn't) and starting looking MORE presidential then he would be considered "Presumptu­ous." So let me get this straight this conflict is between 2 countries we have nothing to to with? Now John is the MAN!!!! Give me a frigging break!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 08/11/2008
- Freakpower I'm a Fan of Freakpower 20 fans permalink
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Yes, when a crisis in the Former Soviet Block broke out, John M.Cain jumped the Gun, and started making provocative statements to Foreign governments, and about Strategic, and tactical polices- possibly undermining the Elected Government of the United States.

If that weren't bad enough, He miss-pronounced the name of the president of Georgia, three timesand plagiarized large portions of his speech from An on-line Encyclopedia, written by anyone with a computer, and a modem.

Mc.Cain "a lose-cannon",
Mc.Cain "Unfit to lead!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 08/11/2008
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Actually, when you get right down to it, Mc'Same has taken off a lot more time on the campaign trail than has O'bama because he only campaigns M-F. If you add up all the weekend days he has been of the campaign trail, O'bama could have taken a three week vacation and still have campaigned more days than McSame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 08/11/2008
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