Oil Prices Finally Bristle At Georgian Conflict

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MADLEN READ | August 11, 2008 06:12 PM EST | AP

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NEW YORK — Oil prices finished at a new three-month low Monday after briefly dropping below $113 a barrel mark, as the dollar extended its rebound and more signs emerged that China's energy demand could be leveling off.

In earlier trading, oil fluctuated as traders monitored the conflict between Russia and Georgia that some believe could disrupt supplies. But those worries faded to the background as the dollar's recovery accelerated, and as the energy market focused on a report from China that the country's crude oil imports in July were down 7 percent from last year.

"Now we're focused on the weak demand side of the equation," said Phil Flynn, analyst at Alaron Trading Corp. in Chicago. "There was this thought process that the high price of energy didn't matter to China and other countries _ but we're finding that that's not the case."

After falling nearly $10 a barrel last week, light, sweet crude for September delivery fell another 75 cents to settle at $114.45 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. It was the lowest close since May 1.

Crude, which fell as low as $112.72 a barrel during the session, has been plummeting in recent weeks from its record of $147.27 on July 11.

"The market's still kind of reeling," said Darin Newsom, senior analyst at DTN in Omaha, Neb. He said more signs of economic slowdown could take prices back below $100 a barrel _ a level not seen since early April.

U.S. retail gasoline prices edged down to $3.81 a gallon, on average, on Monday from $3.818 a day earlier, according to auto club AAA, the Oil Price Information Service and Wright Express. On July 17, the average hit a record $4.114.

The euro fell to $1.4925, the pound fell to $1.9117, and the dollar held at around 110 yen. A weak dollar helped boost oil prices earlier this year, because dollar-denominated commodities are often used as hedges against inflation and a falling U.S. currency. But gains in the currency are reversing that trend.

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Peter Beutel, president of the energy risk management firm Cameron Hanover, wrote in a research note that investors appear to be selling commodities to get back into stocks, which traded higher by midday trading Monday. On Friday, the Dow Jones industrial average surged more than 300 points.

Beutel noted in his Monday note that crude oil open interest _ or the number of futures contracts that are not closed or delivered on a given day _ has sunk by more than 100,000 contracts since the record high in mid-July, a sign of heavy liquidation.

In Nymex trading, heating oil futures slipped 0.85 cent to settle at $3.1195 a gallon, while gasoline futures fell 2.08 cents to finish at $2.8666 a gallon. Natural gas futures rose by 10.1 cents to $8.349 per 1,000 cubic feet.

In London, Brent crude futures fell 66 cents to settle at $112.67 a barrel on the ICE futures exchange.

Crude, gasoline and heating oil prices had traded higher in earlier trading on concerns that shipments from two Georgian ports could be hindered by the violence in the region.

The South Ossetia province broke away from Georgian control in 1992. Georgia, whose troops have been trained by American soldiers, began an offensive to regain control over South Ossetia last week. Georgia says it was responding to attacks by separatists. In response, Russia launched attacks on Georgian troops.

On Monday, Russia opened a second front of fighting in Georgia, and the world's seven largest economic powers called on Russia to accept an immediate cease-fire.

"(Russian forces) came to the central route and cut off connections between western and eastern Georgia," Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili told a national security meeting.

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Associated Press Writers George Jahn in Vienna and Alex Kennedy in Singapore contributed to this report.

NEW YORK — Oil prices finished at a new three-month low Monday after briefly dropping below $113 a barrel mark, as the dollar extended its rebound and more signs emerged that China's energy dema...
NEW YORK — Oil prices finished at a new three-month low Monday after briefly dropping below $113 a barrel mark, as the dollar extended its rebound and more signs emerged that China's energy dema...
 
 

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- RRK70 See Profile I'm a Fan of RRK70 permalink

One disruption in Nigeria or a hurricane enters the Gulf and the price of oil goes up. Russia invades Georgia, no problem, forget about it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 08/11/2008
- useyourbrain See Profile I'm a Fan of useyourbrain permalink

This is great news for the future. What if they gave a war and no one could come because they didn't have fuel!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 08/11/2008
- KillTheMessenger See Profile I'm a Fan of KillTheMessenger permalink

Georgia is a net oil importer and one doubts the Russians want to shut a pipeline from Azerbaijan down. They are trying to teach Georgia a lesson on not to be suicidal. It's not about hitting the West by shutting down oil supplies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 08/11/2008
- Seven7s See Profile I'm a Fan of Seven7s permalink

Yeah the Russians arent doing anything our nation hasnt done to those who would deare challenge us.

hell, we dont even needs to be attacked to start a war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 08/12/2008
- CaptainStormfield See Profile I'm a Fan of CaptainStormfield permalink

As I'm listening to Cable Neocon News... Americans Flee the Russian Invasion...

Jeezz.. I cant believe they would distort the truth about this proxy war.
All you have to do is look at a map of pipelines and oil and gas in the
region.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JH12Ag02.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 08/11/2008
- darthdarcy See Profile I'm a Fan of darthdarcy permalink

The price of Oil can fall that much, and even farther because it was all artificially manipulated and ballooned by the criminals at Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, London and Dubai and it can come down much more if we attack these markets and get them back under regulation and oversight with rel teeth added to enforcement to end this insider trading...

Also all this talk about China is way over blown so far China uses 7 million barrels per day and they get 3/12 million of that from their own sources so only 3/12 million barrels comes for the international market for China...

America uses 26 million barrels per day on average, and Europe uses 21 million barrels..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 08/11/2008
- vippy See Profile I'm a Fan of vippy permalink

Congress finally put the reigns on the future's market but not 100% and one has to wonder why
they leave themselves a loophole? Also, congress knew about the Enron Loophole that created
the housing and banking mess and the exhorbitant gas prices since last December and one has to wonder why they did not act upon it until Mr. Ed Wallace of the Fort Worth Star Telegram did some research and found that the ICE was to blame along with Richard Lugar, Tom Delay and
Phil Gramm. And since the new restrictions were imposed the price of oil has been coming down
though the gas should be at $ 2.89 but it is not. It is slow in coming down, and not like it was when
going up in large increments on a daily basis, oftentimes more than once per day.
The answer is our dear congress/senate was involved in making money and they wanted to ride
it out until they got caught. Shame on them and remember this when you vote - fire them!
Vote out all incumbents, they are not interested in you and me but themselves!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 08/12/2008
- KillTheMessenger See Profile I'm a Fan of KillTheMessenger permalink

Hey, if they manipulated it all the way up, they can manipulate it all the way down, again. Don't you think? You got to be logically consistent. The cigar smoking men in that dark room can do whatever they please.

Or... it is supply and demand and demand after all. And who knows, demand is down because this year's summer driving season was a real bust and more people are taking the train. And trust me, A LOT MORE people are taking the train.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 08/11/2008
- darthdarcy See Profile I'm a Fan of darthdarcy permalink

KTM I said they can move the price of Oil even lower much lower as it is a bubble and artificially inflated the market is being manipulated whether you will ever learn, this or agree...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 08/12/2008
- cunuck See Profile I'm a Fan of cunuck permalink

You have to move the market up and down to make the big bucks. Think Enron. Allow prices to go down then buy. Push the markets up then sell. Repeat until your pockets are stuffed with dollars......

ICE, ICE, Baby
http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/651928.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 08/11/2008
- Rule Of Law See Profile I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law permalink

Yes, it is pretty incredible isn't it? There's a goat roasting fire by a oil pipe in Turkey and crude goes up. Russia, a nuclear power by the way, and Georgia--a nation that chafed under the old Soviet rule with a wide streak of Nationalistic Pride, go to war, and what?.........Oil goes down? Go figure, huh?

Nah, can't be a fixed game at all, huh Darth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 08/11/2008
- KillTheMessenger See Profile I'm a Fan of KillTheMessenger permalink

If China uses 7 million barrels a day today, they will be using 8 million barrels a day a year from now because they are looking at 15% demand growth or so. Since supply has been flat for the last three years, somebody, either in the US or in Europe needs to start saving. For the US that would mean around 3-4% less consumption. Do we really believe that? Hardly. In total the world will probably be able to save whatever China and India consume more, but it will happen at increasingly higher price levels.

Please remember that China is building giant stuff with this oil that promises a return on this investment, which in the US it's mainly the soccer Moms driving oversized vehicles. There is no return on that wasted oil whatsoever. In a bidding war they win and we lose because they invest where we just waste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 08/11/2008
- EinChicago See Profile I'm a Fan of EinChicago permalink

"If China uses 7 million barrels a day today, they will be using 8 million barrels a day a year from now because they are looking at 15% demand growth or so. Since supply has been flat for the last three years, somebody, either in the US or in Europe needs to start saving."

yeah. Nobody wants that stiniking extra 2.5 million barrels that Iraq is going to put on the market,. Or that stinking 3 million bpd that KSA has slated to come on line later this year. And forget about that extra 2-3million BPD of canadian tar sands production slated for over the next 3 years. Just forget about that. It's peak oil in 2012!! No, wait it's peak oil in 2015!! If not by 2020, at the latest. But absolutely no later than 2035. And in no instance whatsoiever any later than 2063!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 08/11/2008
- EinChicago See Profile I'm a Fan of EinChicago permalink

This is the slow, gentle pace for the door as the big guys try to whistle nonchalantly as they slowly back out of the oil market. Wait until all the small guys look around and realize they are left holding the bag and then see the stampede for the doors. Barring another saber rattling false flag episode from Iran or Venezuela to try and prop up rpices, oil is going to $50-65 pretty quickly. Heck, even Algeria stated that oil would be at $70 by the end of the year, and it's the biggest price hawk in OPEC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 08/11/2008
- cunuck See Profile I'm a Fan of cunuck permalink

You are spot on.

Here's a report from Deutsche Bank ( one of the owners of The Intercontinental Exchange (ICE))

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/08/04/ccview104.xml
"Oil will slide back towards its "marginal production cost" of $60 to $80 a barrel;"

The game is called "Pump and Dump"...........................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 08/12/2008
- KillTheMessenger See Profile I'm a Fan of KillTheMessenger permalink

Dream on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 08/11/2008
- EinChicago See Profile I'm a Fan of EinChicago permalink

Yeah...I'll take your opion over the President oif OPEC's.....not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 08/11/2008
- KillTheMessenger See Profile I'm a Fan of KillTheMessenger permalink

Those damn speculators are driving the oil price into the ground! We need to stop them.

:-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 08/11/2008
- VivaComputers See Profile I'm a Fan of VivaComputers permalink

What does Obama have to do with the price of tea in China?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 08/11/2008
- Nym See Profile I'm a Fan of Nym permalink

So, markets think Russia is not in taking over and regimechanging. What a world lately, russians are the good guys, oilmarkets can think, and a republican mismanages fearmongering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 08/11/2008
- Nym See Profile I'm a Fan of Nym permalink

Re "In response, Russia launched massive artillery shelling and air attacks on Georgian troops."

Is it really that hard to write: "When russians arrived hours later to respond, they launched massive artillery shelling and air attacks on Georgian troops."

Makes a big difference. As in "lots of time to flatten the city."

The way you put it sounds likeGeorgians attacked a well defended city. Fits with your preferred headlines, but see, if you spin like this, how can i trust the things i learned here about Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 08/11/2008
- 20090120 See Profile I'm a Fan of 20090120 permalink

You mean just like the neo-cons spun the BS about the Irag war for the last SEVEN years....and now we have McBush...then it's not so hard to trust....well, almost anything that's not the lying machine in the form of Bushie or McSame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 08/11/2008
- watcher269 See Profile I'm a Fan of watcher269 permalink

On Sunday, Vice President Dick Cheney told Georgia's pro-American president, Mikhail Saakashvili, that "Russian aggression must not go unanswered, and that its continuation would have serious consequences for its relations with the United States," Cheney's office reported.

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Cheney dictating to other countries to start wars too - just how many countries has Cheney Fu*ked up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 08/11/2008
- RRK70 See Profile I'm a Fan of RRK70 permalink

If Cheney is healthy enough to hunt, he must be healthy enough to fight. Draft Cheney (into the Marines) '08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 08/11/2008
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