Source: Obama To Start Looking The Other Way On 527s

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First Posted: 08-11-08 03:53 PM   |   Updated: 09-11-08 05:12 AM

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Senator Barack Obama will start looking the other way when it comes to the role 527s and other independent groups play in the election, a source close to his campaign told the Huffington Post.

The implicit acknowledgment that outside organizations have a role to play signifies a marked contrast from Obama's longstanding policy that electoral efforts be funneled through his campaign. A spokesman for Obama, Bill Burton, denied that any policy vis-à-vis 527s -- political organizations that can raise unlimited soft money -- and other outside groups had changed.

"Whoever is saying that has no idea what is going on inside our campaign," he said. "Senator Obama has said consistently that if folks want to help this effort, they should do so through our campaign."

But on Monday two reports surfaced suggesting that a softening of Obama's stance may already be taking place. Earlier in the day, Politico's Ben Smith wrote that PowerPAC, a 501c4 that was initiating voter registration efforts primarily in the South and West, was planning to spend $10 million during the election. In the afternoon, FireDogLake's Jane Hamsher reported that "a source close to the Obama campaign," acknowledged their position on independent expenditures was changing.

"Despite actively discouraging donors from giving to groups like Progressive Media at one point, they are now taking the position that it's nothing they have any control over," Hamsher wrote.

What effect contributions such outside groups could have on the election at this point remains to be seen. Anything organic would likely take weeks if not months to organize and finance. As such, advertising efforts from 527s likely aren't in the works due to budgetary restrictions. But grassroots efforts, especially if overseen by already established organizations like SEIU or ACORN, could yield important results.

"Independent groups can talk to constituencies where the Obama campaign or the DNC aren't credible messengers. The best example would be Working America and its reach into white working class communities," said Tom Matzzie, who had headed the organization Progressive Media before starting a new group to target right wing financiers. "There are some groups that are ready to take more donations: Working America, VoteVets, the Choice groups and ACORN to name a few. Otherwise it is almost too late to get a new ground group going. A new advertising outfit could be put together by experienced independent campaigners in a few days. The key is not to fund the grab-ass efforts that are mostly a consultant hustle. Instead invest in really good work."

The Obama camp has been, to this point, cold to the idea of unleashing outside groups, urging the party's big money contributors to not donate beyond the campaign.

"I think that our interest is in controlling the message of our own campaign and in not allowing others to develop a message for us," Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, told the Huffington Post in an interview in late May. "So to the extent possible we would like people to give their donations to us, so that we can use the money to deliver a message that is consistent with Obama's desires."

The extent to which such top-down oversight is possible was an object of debate and, at times, concern among Democrats. Certainly, there are risks to having outside groups play a major role. Message control can be lost and Obama's traditional opposition to independent expenditures would effectively be sullied. But in recent weeks, as John McCain has repeatedly launched negative ads at Obama, there has been some concern that equally negative counter attacks weren't in the offing.

"There have been some in the campaign all-along who have argued against the firm, hard-line position they have taken," said a Democratic insider.

Senator Barack Obama will start looking the other way when it comes to the role 527s and other independent groups play in the election, a source close to his campaign told the Huffington Post. The im...
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At times I feel extremely optimistic about the future of this country. At times I am proud for all the progress made. But then there are so many ugly moments when I just want to scream. I have heard so many whites say that they would never vote for a black. I have heard white women say that they can never imagine having a black fist lady, it's like worse than the black president itself.
What does McCain have that Obama doesn't, except his age and maybe 5 years of prison? So what? The 5 years of POW exactly should remind people what wars can do to people! They certainly destroyed McCain's own marriage, like the Iraq war is destroying many people's lives and marriage. They destroy trust. They destroy our budget balance. They destroy our economy. They leave people live in shadow and fear for decades. What can McCain do that Obama can not? What is America waiting for? With all my imagination I can not picture McCain go to Russia, France, Germany, China, Japan to deal with all the important issues%2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 08/27/2008
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At times I feel extremely optimistic about the future of this country. At times I am proud for all the progress made. But then there are so many ugly moments when I just want to scream. I have heard so many whites say that they would never vote for a black. I have heard white women say that they can never imagine having a black fist lady, it's like worse than the black president itself.
What does McCain have that Obama doesn't, except his age and maybe 5 years of prison? So what? The 5 years of POW exactly should remind people what wars can do to people! They certainly destroyed McCain's own marriage, like the Iraq war is destroying many people's lives and marriage. They destroy trust. They destroy our budget balance. They destroy our economy. They leave people live in shadow and fear for decades. What can McCain do that Obama can not? What is America waiting for? With all my imagination I can not picture McCain go to Russia, France, Germany, China, Japan to deal with all the important issues ahead of the next president! And I don't think he knows anything about how the economy functions since he never had to deal with anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 08/27/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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after the viscious lies and all out slander from the MCCain camp and advocates. All of whom MCCAin has said nothing to quell. he has actually said he is proud of his campaign. conjuring fake images of the anti christ, celebrity, and of Obama beign an elitist...­heck yea this campaign needs some teeth...
and how much could he actually control an outside group anyway. the Repugnants have already slung mud, falsehoods, distorted the facts and now this guy Corlisi has come out with a whole book of lies and falsehoods with the whole purpose of slamming Obama and the campaign.
this is not a flip flop, this is simply the realization that the Repugnants only want to play this low road game instead of discussing the issues that are devistating all Americans, so please 527's smack back at these low life's with the facts of their negative campaign, the lies they tell, and how they are trying once again to deceive and scare the American citizaens into giving them control of our government once again.....­....The Republicans represent a bleek future for America and our future generations they want to separate the US intot he Ultra rich and the desolate..­.....witht he middle class as a forgotton memory....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 08/14/2008
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Jeez I couldn't have said it any better than you just did. Great Job. Now 527's for Obama go out & get them. Please bring American's the truth about the lies that are being spread by the RNC< McSame and the radical right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 08/14/2008

Wow this "Source" guy knows everything. He's like the only guy journalists get information from anymore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 08/12/2008

Yes, well he probably should, he has to first become President before he can begin to change anything. If he continues to let McSame swiftboat him, he'll never be President!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 08/12/2008
- 4real I'm a Fan of 4real 29 fans permalink
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Good for him. He has to go up against all the msm smears, books and internet lies that are going to be out there until Nov. He can't do it alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 08/12/2008
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Barack, The Viking has tried to negotiate a peaceful accomodation to no avail. Time to move in the Berzerker Brigaid. McCain has left him no alternative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 08/12/2008
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Yes he will look the other way. The DNC will direct the attack machine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 08/12/2008

What a shock... the Obama contingent is here defending him. He's a different kind of politician, so he can do the same old things because he has to win, because he's a different kind of politician.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 08/12/2008
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Here you go.....in case this doesn't work......­....dial 911 asap
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DO NOT leave the casualty unattended. Reassure the casualty constantly.
* Treat any cause of shock which can be remedied (such as external bleeding).
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 08/12/2008

Perhaps people are just loathe to believe these "anonymous sources" that are saying Obama is going to turn his back on one of his primary policies without any actual proof of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 08/12/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 85 fans permalink

This time around we must win. There is no other choice, and I'd rather have Obama become president than gladly take the high road and lose. 2004 was critical because of the Supreme Court and we lost. Now is do or die.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 08/12/2008
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New kind of politics.

Hope & Change

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 08/12/2008
- truegreen I'm a Fan of truegreen 22 fans permalink

The Obama campaign isn't doing a good enough job push backing against republican smears. Obama needs the 527 groups to push back against McCain and the republicans. I can tell u, as an ardent Obama supporters. i am sick of this 'high road' garbage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 AM on 08/12/2008
- lobear00 I'm a Fan of lobear00 25 fans permalink

I will still write-in Dennis Kucinich, The "Media does not like him, the Republicans do not like him, the Democrats do not like him. "Change" We have "Corruption" full circle in this Country! and Obama is not the one to even come close to changing it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 08/12/2008
- biglith I'm a Fan of biglith 13 fans permalink

Might as well write in Winnie the Pooh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 08/12/2008
- BARRY08 I'm a Fan of BARRY08 3 fans permalink

MCCAIN IS NOT READY TO LEAD = RAISE MY CASE :

McCain has been among the most ardent supporters of the war in Iraq -- the most disastrous foreign policy decision in American history.

McCain falsely claims that, from the beginning of the war, he called on former Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to resign. He should have, but he didn't.

McCain thinks it's "not too important" when American forces come home from Iraq.

McCain falsely claimed that the surge was what led to the Anbar Awakening, even though the Sunni revolt against al-Qaeda in the province began months before Bush even announced his plan to send more troops to Iraq.

McCain falsely claimed at the end of May that American troops in Iraq were down to "pre-surge levels" (brandished as proof that the surge was "succeeding") -- even though two-thirds of the additional surge troops were still in Iraq. And, when called on his mistake, he refused to acknowledge that he was wrong.

The world cannot afford McCain in the White House. George Bush has brought us to the brink of disaster; John McCain's will undoubtedly take us over the edge.


Obama needs to make it clear to the nation that that's what this election is all about.

MCCAIN IS NOT READY TO LEAD ........HE IS NOT APT TO THE TASK !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 08/12/2008

Change, Change and more change. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss! Just without any experience, cause he is about change, change and more change. As long as its the same......­....

No real interest in change. Just winning! That's what it is all about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 08/12/2008
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Well gee.......­......winn­ing would be a prerequisite to making change happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 08/12/2008
- BARRY08 I'm a Fan of BARRY08 3 fans permalink

McCAIN is not ready to LEAD - he is less than consistent and does not know what he is doing .... not even Jimminy Cricket can help in a moment of crisis...

Need more proof of why McCain is not "ready to lead"? Do you want a president who thinks there is an "Iraq/Pakistan border"? Who believes Darfur is in Somalia? And that Czechoslovakia is still a country?

McCain and his handlers believe that national security and terror will be their secret weapon come the fall -- and any day when their ability to deploy it is not undermined by the Obama campaign is a good day indeed. (Hence the celebrity distractio­n.)

WAKE UP AMERICA - MCBUSH IS NOT READY TO LEAD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 08/12/2008
- vonny I'm a Fan of vonny 2 fans permalink

“… the FEC had sent two letters to the Obama campaign seeking additional information regarding contributions it received that appeared to exceed the $2300 legal limit.

Among those questionable contributions, were donations from Monir and Hosam Edwan, (MEMBERS OF HAMAS). The Obama campaign responded to the first letter in May 2008, but apparently the FEC was not satisfied with its response and sent out a second letter to the Obama campaign on July 30,2008 requesting additional information for sixteen pages of questionable contributions, including several of Monir Edwan’s contributions.

the Obama campaign failed to tell the FEC about the refunded money both in its original FEC report and in its response to the FEC’s letter in May of 2008 (5 months after they allegedly returned the money). Otherwise, the FEC would have had no reason to further question them about these donations in its follow up letter (in July) - which makes the Obama campaign’s claim - that it returned their donations in December - all the more difficult to swallow.”

You can see the two FEC letters to the Obama campaign here and here. You certainly won’t get to see them on MSNBC or CNN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 08/12/2008
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Poor bitter P U M A.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 08/12/2008

Obama sent that money to Hillary instead to pay off her debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 08/12/2008

You dont get maggo points here... so no that wont for the free trip on crooked talk xpress....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 08/12/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 237 fans permalink
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I can't find one thing in this article that supports the claim in the headline, and God knows I've looked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 08/12/2008

What about a headline like.... McCain to Father Martian Child? or Is McCain really a vampire and is 300 yrs old?.. or maybe THE TRUTH??? Huffpo stay writing misleading headlines.­....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 08/12/2008
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