GOPers For Obama Rip McCain On Georgia, Tout Hagel As VP

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August 12, 2008 11:05 AM


A group of prominent Republicans supporting Barack Obama took to a conference call Tuesday morning to tout their preferred candidate, make the case for other GOPers to cross party lines, and warn about the dangers of John McCain's foreign policy.

Hoping to fill a void in news with Senator Obama on vacation, former Rep. Jim Leach, former Sen. Lincoln Chafee and Rita Hauser (a national intelligence expert who served in the Bush administration), offered at times sharp lines of criticism for the presumptive Republican nominee.

"I served with Sen. McCain, and he and I were the only two to vote against the Bush/Cheney tax cuts," recalled Chafee. "During this campaign it is a different John McCain. He is saying he would make the tax cuts permanent. He is advocating more drilling whereas he voted against drilling in ANWR. It goes to his credibility. And that is such an important issue for this country... plus his foreign policy has been consistently with Bush/Cheney and I know from my perspective that is a huge issue for the United States."

Hauser, meanwhile, pivoted off current events to highlight why Republicans like her viewed McCain's foreign policy as shortsighted and, quiet possibly, at odds with international interests.

"I think the little flare up we are witnessing in Georgia is another illustration of the different approach these two men are taking," she said. "McCain is bellicose: threatening to kick Russia out of the G8, use force if it is required. Obama is far more of the traditional position: turn to international institutions, call for reconciliation, call for an end of hostilities, but also be firm in his words. And that's the kind of leadership we need."

Reflecting disenchantment over the Bush/Cheney years, Leach, Chafee and Hauser all touted Obama's pledge of post-partisanship as a defining aspect in why they were crossing party lines. As for the true test of Obama's bipartisanship -- whether he would appoint a Republican official as vice president or to his cabinet -- the officials on the call deferred to the candidate. But Leach did give a nod to Sen. Chuck Hagel, a prominent Republican who seems tailor made to endorse Obama.

"There are a number of very impressive vice presidential candidates and this is a singular decision for one person and that is Sen. Obama. But I would be hopeful that among the serious list of people to be considered would be Chuck Hagel," said the Iowa Republican. "I think Chuck would be the type of Republican who will represent well this country."

As part of their Republicans-for-Obama effort, the group said they would be launch a website in the next few days that would, primarily, contrast Obama's positions against McCain's through a Republican lens. "It will encourage others to come on because they will see that there is a growing number of Republicans around the country that support him," said Hauser.

The imperative was there, said Leach. It was simply a matter of showing Republicans the shortcomings of the current administration and convincing them that Obama was within their political mainstream.

"This is not a time for politics as usual," said the former congressman. "The portfolio of issues passed on to the next president is as daunting as any since WWII. The case for inspiring new political leadership and the social ethic has seldom been more evident. Barack Obama's platform is a call for change, but the change that he is articulating is more renewal than departure. ... It is rooted in very old American values that are very much part of the Republican as well as the Democratic tradition. ... The national interest requires a new approach to our interaction with the world -- including the recognition that a long-term occupation of Iraq is likely dangerously destabilizing."

A group of prominent Republicans supporting Barack Obama took to a conference call Tuesday morning to tout their preferred candidate, make the case for other GOPers to cross party lines, and warn abou...
A group of prominent Republicans supporting Barack Obama took to a conference call Tuesday morning to tout their preferred candidate, make the case for other GOPers to cross party lines, and warn abou...
 
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I'm not sure if I'd be happy with Chuck Hagel as VP. He is vehementlely anti-gay, anti-choice and has worked to undermine important stem cell research. Obama would upset a great number of women and gays with his choice and the novelty of a Republican VP would wear off very soon!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 AM on 08/14/2008

The battle among Republicans isn't limited to the national stage. Here in New Hampshire the Divide Among Area Republicans Widens (http:www.laconiademocrats.org) and not just on national issues and candidates.

The GOP is finally self-destructing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 08/13/2008

There is no such thing as any consequential numbers of Republicans for Obama. Doesn't exist. http://www.blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/08/12/the-obamacan-movement-myth.aspx

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 08/13/2008
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You are referencing an op-ed that uses a Faux news poll as proof. Are you serious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 08/13/2008
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Yeah He is serious , Not Too Bright Though.

We See Right Through You !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 08/13/2008
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The fact that Fox News even ran such a fake poll shows how real the liklihood is of Republicans crossing over to vote for Obama. Every time Fox creates false news, their capacity to affect political outcomes decreases a bit more.

These days, they are just preaching to the choir.

And the back row is emptying out.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 08/13/2008
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Just so ya know ,

Here in Fla. there is a Growing number of Rep. support for Obama .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 08/13/2008

I have two friends who are staunch Republicans and foam at the mouth when they hear the word, Liberal. And yet, they will cross party lines and vote for Obama if Hagel is the VP choice. "Nuff" said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 08/13/2008
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How would they Vote if Obama does not choose Hagel ?

Let's say He Chooses Biden or Clark , would they still vote for Obama ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 08/13/2008
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Uh.

Yes.

They would.

Everyone, right and left, knows the war can't continue. It's a disaster of MASSIVE proportions.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 08/13/2008
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I know republicans who are going to cross the line even without Hagel because they are smart enough to know that the government we have now is neo con, not conservative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 08/13/2008

can someone tell me what PUMA means

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 08/13/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR permalink

Party Unity My Ass

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 AM on 08/13/2008

whats a PUMA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 AM on 08/13/2008
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They tend to be bitter middle aged white women who hate Obama because Hillary was an idiot (Mark Penn, hello!) and lost the primary. So now they go around threatening to disrupt the Democratic Convention and trying their damndest to get a delegate roll count (or something like that) so that they can usurp the nomination from Obama. It's weak and pathetic. Oh yeah, they also scream sexism where there isn't any. And just for the record, I'm a woman who watched everything that went on during the primary and all I saw was a woman who acted like a man (Yuck! If she'd kept her own council, she would have won) and didn't have the balls to lose like one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 08/13/2008

You are right. Everything said in your post is absolutely right. No, Hillary didn't just act like a man. She acted like a weary hag with a Republican's hat. This is what she kept for the women to be lousy mean bean losers and keep their sexist rhetorics alive to this day.

Had she run a different decent campaign, things would probably be different for her. But, she wanted to win at all cost so throw the mud all the way!

Besides, all these memos from her camp truly make this infamous PUMA camp just a wailing tots! lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 08/15/2008

Hagel for SecDef

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 AM on 08/13/2008

Thank the Lord for these brave souls! These individual's are the ones that show they really care about the American people! They are willing to put aside their party and to vote for the cause of the people! I hope the rest of the republican's wake up and realize a vote for McCain is for total destruction of America as we now know it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 08/13/2008
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Does McCain pledge to seek membership in NATO for Georgia if elected? Will he guarantee this with military force, if necessary?

Just asking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 08/12/2008

Why hasn"t anyone in the MSM mentioned McCain as "presumptuous" in his efforts regarding Georgia? Is he not talking forcefully like he"s already the president with his war mongering?

I've never shouted at the TV as much as I do now watching and listening to the talking heads in MSM....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 08/12/2008

Especially since we have so many troops to spare after the contrived war on Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 08/12/2008

I know this is a stupid question but what is the MSM that is always referred?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 08/12/2008

Main stream media...and there are never any stupid questions, only stupid people who don't ask questions before bolting off and getting involved in something they're neither informed about or prepared for (ie: Iraq conflict).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 08/12/2008

THE ONLY STUPID QUESTION IS ONE NOT ASKED!

welcome aboard the world of knowledge and hope!

MSM = MainStream Media = CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, NYT and most major newspapers... and then there's "FOXNEWS" which is not actually "news" it is a GOP Funded Propaganda Machine that masquerades as a news organization, which will, along with many of it's commentators, with any luck, one day, be charged with treason, war crimes and high crimes and misdemeanors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 08/13/2008


Yes McAK47 preempted the President on Georgia and even told the president what to do! If it was Obama the media would be falling all over themselves to say he is "presumptuous" But if it's McColt, no, he is just being commander in chief!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 08/13/2008

No wonder things are going so badly, we have three (3) idiots in the White House, none of which have a clue about foreign policy and each one is trying to trump the other. One is obviously behind the scenes (Cheney). George Bush and his side-kick McCain. Now that's a team (Yikes)!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 08/13/2008
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thank you GOPers for the needed support. We got to change this mess now before its too late for us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 08/12/2008

Thanks for crossing over to the good side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 08/12/2008

The Republican party should dump McCain and put up Chuck Hagel for President. He will inspire trust and he will also have a choice of very good prospects for his VP. As it stands now McCain has become as irrelevant as Dick Cheney.. Hagel will dump Carl Rove and that makes for a respectable ticket. This Republican party is hanging by a thread because of their ffailure with accountability and the of oversight of the Iraq war from day one. The failure to stop the corruption in the Department of Justice has put a stain on their Congress and Senate members. They all share the guilt. If not for a pliable and greedy media the public would have found out about everything evil that spewed forth from this administration. The fact that Cheney has a conflict of interest with his stock holdings and future bonuses from Halliburton. His stock should have been frozen at their value in 2001 and no bonuses for what they have earned since that date. Any monies paid to him are illegal. He stacked the deck. And Halliburton has left the country. Ha!Ha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 08/12/2008

The Republican party is not yet ready to accept Hagel as their presidential nominee. They still want to believe the war was a good idea. If Obama chooses him as VP, then that would make Hagel the eventual head of the Republican party as Republicans gradually come to terms with the horrors they have caused through their war president. Then in 8 years the Republicans can work through the issue of will they nominate Obama's friend, the man that Obama picked to be their leader, or will they split their party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 08/13/2008
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After the past 8 years I could care less Who the Rethuglicons Presidential Candidate is.
They will Never get My Vote Regardless ! They Could Choose God at this point & I would Vote for Anyone Else on the ticket !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 08/13/2008

Does anyone remember when Cheney claimed he was no longer affiliated with Halliburton and was not getting paid? Just checking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 08/13/2008

Glad to see that Republicans for Obama do indeed exist. Bill O'Reilly claimed on his radio show today that he thinks they are a phoney group because they haven't agreed to come on his show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 08/12/2008

No, the phony group are the repugs for PUMA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 08/12/2008

Can't hardly turn on FOX News without seeing a PUMA pop up somewhere to bash Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 08/12/2008

Why are you listening to that pompus windbag O'Rilly anyway? He has the nerve to talk about John Edwards, when he is known for sexually harrassing women up and down the coast. He's a hypocrite for even talking about Edwards.

These people are just speculating, they don't know a darn thing about anything. They're opinion does not and should not matter in this election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 08/12/2008

in this new age of instant karma and the evolution of human thought we're about to see this egotistical, narcissistic, low-life, serpent piece of sh*t melt down before the eyes of the world.

i've got a case of popcorn and gatoraide in the pantry just for that occasion -- hannity and limpbutt too -- heh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 08/13/2008
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yea, Keith Olbermann called O'Reilly out on his show today and reminded him of his sexual harassment lawsuit where he paid millions in hush money. O'Reilly shouldn't have touched this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 08/13/2008

I listen to O'Reilly for the laughs. It's a joke to hear him spin things his way. Just like him saying Republicans for Obama is phoney because they haven't agreed to come on HIS stupid show therefore they must not be real.

He certainly has had sexual indiscretions of his own so he has no room to talk about Edwards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 08/13/2008

O'Reilly is a documented stalking woman abuser, who pays off his victims. Why would anyone pay attention to anything he says much less be in the same room with him. !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 08/13/2008

Honest Republicans realize that this nation is headed towards a ditch after 8 years of Bush and allowing McCain into office to continue down that path is just not an option. Contrary to what the polls would have you believe - and notice how there are so few stories about this versus all the stories about the pockets of angry Clinton supporters threatening to vote for McCain - there are a LOT of moderate Republicans out there who are sick of the partisan mess and the Bush disaster and are eager to see someone like Barack Obama in office. I mean, even here in the deep south, I've talked with what would be textbook Republican voters - conservative, Christian, white middle-class voters - and what's interesting is they're actively researching Obama, his stance on the issues, etc. Obama has a HUGE chance to capture these voters and what I would advise all Obama supporters to do is be mindful that a LOT of Republicans are just as fed up with Bush and his cronies as we are and a good number are quietly rooting for Obama. As such, try to avoid blanket characterizations of the Republicans. Iinstead focus your criticism on specific policies and individuals. Also offer kind words and encouragement for Repubs like Chafee and Hagel - you will be surprised at how far these simple gestures will go. Remember that in the final analysis, we are all Americans and together we can put our nation on a better,

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 08/12/2008

thanks, mawrm, for your excellent comment. it's too bad that these comment boards are so extreme with mindless partisanship, foul language and poor etiquette, all so unreflective of what obama stands for. through all the unpleasant, sophomoric noise that pervades these dialogues at huffpost and everywhere else, sometimes a worthwhile insight emerges. your comment provided one, and i hope all the screamers and trolls read it and think about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 08/12/2008

Thank you mawrm! You are absolutely right. I think we have been so fruastrated with so much negative, it seemed that blasting McCain just didn't seem to be enough. We had the Clinton HELLraisers, PUMAS, and the Clintons, and because we believe in equal rights we had to throw the republicans in there too:). Anyway to the republicans that have joined the Obama campaign, we say "thank you" and welcome aboard! Obama 08! PS...this is serious business ya'll!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 08/13/2008

Thank you for reminding me that there's a stark difference between right-wing neocon thugs and real Americans who just happen to vote Republican. I'm guilty of heaping hate on Republicans because I absolutely HATE what they've done to my country. But I can't tell you how wonderful it is to know that Senator Obama has the support of Americans of both parties. I was wrong for generalizing. Americans of both parties are angry and revolted by what the Bush Administration has done to America. But if we work together, we can fix it, especially if we can stop all this partisan bickering, roll up our sleeves and get down to business. This makes me believe that if we pull together, it will actually happen.

I'll make you a promise: From now on, I'll temper my criticism to people who spew insane neocon talking points and avoid generalizing. I'm looking forward to the day when we have a President Obama. Hopefully he'll help us make peace with each other so we can stop being conservatives and liberals and go back to just being Americans. I can hardly wait!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 08/13/2008
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Marked as favorite. Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 08/13/2008
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And keep in mind that polls are not reflecting the perspective of a lot of the younger voters as they are conducted on hard lines.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 08/13/2008

According to former Senator Lincoln Chafee, John McCain voted against drilling in ANWR. Approximately two months ago, the Republicans started singing 'DRILL, DRILL, DRILL". Now, John McCain is for drilling, how convenient. In less than three months, its election time, so of course certain verbiage will be thrown out as fodder to the voters - because its HOWDY DOWDY TIME.

The time to have sung 'DRILL, DRILL, DRILL', was right after Katrina hit, and gasoline spiked dramatically, with spot shortages throughout the country, and President Bush's party had control of the Executive & Legislative Branches of Government. He could have placed drilling along the East Coast, West Coast and the Gulf of Mexico, by ramming through the legislation. The President rammed many pieces of legistation through Congress, but neither massive nor moderate drilling legislation was rammed through Congress.

Consider that if John McCain becomes President, he cannot force Big Oil to drill. Why? Because its the "free market". If an oil company chooses not to drill, John McCain cannot force them to drill, its that simple.

The VP pick for Obama may be Kaine, and if it is, think of the tag-line: VOTE OK 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 08/12/2008

as if that oil in anwar would make it to the u.s.,theyll sell it to japan and china first.What a joke!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 08/12/2008
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