McCain Recycles Obama Afghanistan Attack Debunked A Year Ago

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First Posted: 08-13-08 02:04 PM   |   Updated: 09-13-08 05:12 AM

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On Wednesday, John McCain's rapid response spokesman let fly with a "reaction" to a year-old incident.

"One year ago today, Barack Obama accused our men and women in Afghanistan of 'just air-raiding villages and killing civilians' in this country's fight against radical Islamic extremism," Tucker Bounds wrote in an email to reporters. "Whether those words were a product of inexperience or just bad judgment, they were not the kind of words we expect from any candidate for our nation's highest office."

Except Obama's comments from last August weren't directed at troops in the field, but rather at the shortage of troops available for combat in Afghanistan. At the New Hampshire event in question, the not-yet frontrunner said: "Now you have narco drug lords who are helping to finance the Taliban, so we've got to get the job done there [in Afghanistan], and that requires us to have enough troops that we are not just air raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there."

Presumably, Obama wasn't arguing for more troops to be added to Afghanistan so that more air raids targeting civilians could commence, and was instead advancing the notion that more troops could help execute a better kind of strategy. Still, for a day or so, his remarks set off a mini-firestorm, with Gov. Mitt Romney and the RNC immediately using the quote to paint Obama as disrespectful to the troops fighting there.

But the AP stepped in the next day, noting in a "fact check" piece that more civilians were, in fact, being killed by U.S.-led forces at that time than by the Taliban.

"As of Aug. 1, the AP count shows that while militants killed 231 civilians in attacks in 2007, Western forces killed 286. Another 20 were killed in crossfire that can't be attributed to one party," they wrote, in addition to reporting that Afghan President Hamid Karzai was concerned enough about the development to bring it up with President Bush.

After that, the Obama canard lost most of its salience. Until now.

In response to the McCain campaign statement, Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan wrote in an email to reporters: "Instead of a real debate about how to move forward in Afghanistan, it's clear that the Republicans would rather launch tired and old attacks to distract people from their record of completely failing to finish the fight against the Taliban and Al Qaeda."

Indeed, with U.S. casualties in Afghanistan outpacing those in Iraq recently, the argument for changing up our strategy against the Taliban and Al Qaeda has only taken on additional momentum in recent weeks. And even though former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski recently told the Huffington Post he isn't persuaded that additional troops are the answer, the issue of civilian deaths still poses a big strategic problem (in addition to the moral one).

Regarding the backlash among Afghan citizens that could grow in the wake of a continued high civilian death rate, Brzezinski said "it's just beginning, but it's significant."

On Wednesday, John McCain's rapid response spokesman let fly with a "reaction" to a year-old incident. "One year ago today, Barack Obama accused our men and women in Afghanistan of 'just air-raiding ...
On Wednesday, John McCain's rapid response spokesman let fly with a "reaction" to a year-old incident. "One year ago today, Barack Obama accused our men and women in Afghanistan of 'just air-raiding ...
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- MaeScott I'm a Fan of MaeScott 15 fans permalink
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Shrub and mccaiint: Liars and lying lips.
Fear and warmongeri­ng...follo­w the money, that's what they pledge allegience to.
shrub doesn't even know which way is up for the flag.
Know how to sacrifice innocents for more money, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 08/15/2008

REPUBLI-CONS YOU DON'T SCARE US.


OBAMA THE JUDGEMENT TO LEAD CHANGE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 08/14/2008

Look, another instance where Obama was right, and that was Truly "STRAIGHT TALK" whereas the McCain campaign is basically whollly fraudulent with everything they say.
They lie about their own stated policies.
They lie about the issues.
They lie about Obama's past, his words and deeds.
They Lie about his present, his religion, his actions.
They lie about his policies and his intents.

There is NOTHING the McCain camp says thats either true or accurate.
They know they are on the side of evil so they dont even try to win by telling the truth.

Another point about McCain's policies.. NPR was remarking last night how similar their Climate policies and words are..... I AM ASTOUNDED that they would be so Shallow.

Corporations are the single largest offenders to polluting our air, our streams, our land, our lakes, our rivers.
Corporations are the sole offenders for strip mining, leaking toxic metals and poisons into our environment.
McCain's corporate policies are IDentical to Cheney's which have left the door wide open for Commerical entities to do as they please with no penalty, no oversight, and no restrictions on any of the crimes against our earth listed above...solely for profits.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 08/14/2008

They take Pride in Being Ignorant.

their excuse for this,"We didnt know it had been debunked"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 AM on 08/14/2008

If this guy had a brain, he'd be dangerous! And to all his supports, get a life. This man is not capable of running the country. We are currently in two wars and this bum wants to fight with Russia? Is this the experience you guys are talking about? PLEASE!!!!!
Judgment that we can respect, Obama for sure!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 AM on 08/14/2008
- Shea4O I'm a Fan of Shea4O 2 fans permalink

I cannot wait for the debates.....Obama is smooth when it comes to this and he can take McCain down in a hot second. I can guarantee that McIown8homes will bring up "that he was a POW" during the Vietnam war and then slowly go into a burn and show his temper.

We need Obama to run an ad with all the lies and all the GI/Veternan Bill he voted agaisnt. and entitled it "McCain - A Legend In His Own Mind".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 AM on 08/14/2008
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McCain has nothing to offer but lies and bullsh_t! And those are the good parts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 08/14/2008
- NoahVail I'm a Fan of NoahVail 56 fans permalink
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As he has demonstrated recently, he knows how to START WARS, as well as WIN them. Just look at his military experience- where would we have been in Southeast Asia in 1974 without him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 08/14/2008
- iswideopen I'm a Fan of iswideopen 59 fans permalink

Hope Cindy isn't in too much pain; she might need those pills again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 08/13/2008
- noamjunior I'm a Fan of noamjunior 82 fans permalink

McCain is proving to be an even slimier Goper than Bush

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 08/13/2008
- Candyx I'm a Fan of Candyx 6 fans permalink

a campaign that is on the downward spin...let's end this in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 08/13/2008
- Gericault I'm a Fan of Gericault 10 fans permalink
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Well if they can confuse the average uneducated voter in this country they just might win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 08/13/2008
- JackND I'm a Fan of JackND 28 fans permalink

The scariest thing is that if Mc'Cain wins, this Tucker Bounds thing is probably going to be the White House Press Secretary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 08/13/2008

And we can once again rely on the news coming out of the White House.lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 AM on 08/14/2008
- OldKnute I'm a Fan of OldKnute 101 fans permalink

Yes,,, this is also why so many of out top Generals called for more troops in BOTH Afghanistan and Iraq!

And what happened to these Generals that opposed the Cheney/Rum­sfeld/Bush strategies for war?

They were fired, retired or discredited or relieved of command.

GOOD, honest, dedicated Patriotic to the core Generals who knew that duty and JOBS and only fault was telling the TRUTH to POWER.

Ask McCain about that he feels about how our Generals and Admirals have been treated.

Especially General Colin Powel,,,,

A great leader!!!

All the best

Knute Neo-LIB < -------- Hey Cheney,,, LOOK,, make me first,, TOP,,, on your list of purges!!!! Remember MY NAME! You are a LIAR!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 08/13/2008
- Birdman I'm a Fan of Birdman 34 fans permalink

Interesting how the statement is taken out of context and misquoted in other words they lied AGAIN. I wonder how people in this country still tolerate the lies of the republicans, is it because they lie as well? Wouldn't it be better for ALL of us to have people who were honest and were able to tell us the facts rather than some trumped up BS like WMD in Iraq? Haven't we as a country learned enough to keep making the same mistake after all look what GW has done to this country with all of HIS lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 08/13/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 52 fans permalink
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Get it through your thick head, they don't care if they lie. All they are doing in feeding the hungry minds of the knuckle draggers who don't care about the truth.

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Joseph Goebbels. Karl Rove proved that this was true in the 2004 campaign and now you see the same thing happening again since Rove's, protege has gone to work for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 08/13/2008
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watch the movie Idiocracy and you'll understand what is wrong with our country and where we're headed...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 08/13/2008
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