Russia defies truce with Georgia; US sending aid

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CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA and MATTI FRIEDMAN | August 13, 2008 11:58 PM EST | AP

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Russian soldiers walk in a street in Tskhinvali, in the Georgian breakaway province of South Ossetia, Wednesday, Aug. 13, 2008. Gutted and shrapnel-scarred buildings testify to fierce street battles and heavy rocket and bomb attacks in the separatist capital of South Ossetia. But there is little evidence civilians were specifically targeted by Georgian troops, as Russia claims. (AP Photo/Dmitry Lovetsky)

OUTSIDE GORI, Georgia — A Russian military convoy defied a cease-fire agreement Wednesday and rolled through a strategically important city in the former Soviet republic of Georgia, which claimed fresh looting and bombing by the Russians and their allies.

President Bush said a massive U.S. aid package was on the way for tens of thousands uprooted in the conflict and demanded Russia "keep its word and act to end this crisis."

"The United States stands with the democratically elected government of Georgia and insists that the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia be respected," Bush said sternly in Washington.

One day after the Kremlin and its smaller neighbor agreed to a French-brokered cease-fire to end the dispute over two pro-Russian breakaway territories, the pact appeared fragile at best.

An Associated Press reporter saw dozens of Russian trucks and armored vehicles leaving the city of Gori, some 20 miles south of the separatist region of South Ossetia and home of a key highway that divides Georgia in two, and moving deeper into Georgia.

Soldiers waved at journalists and one jokingly shouted, "Come with us, beauty, we're going to Tbilisi." The convoy roared southeast, toward the Georgian capital, but then turned north and set up camp about an hour's drive away from it.

Georgian officials said the Russians had looted and bombed Gori before they left. Moscow denied the accusation, but it appeared to be on a technicality: A BBC reporter in Gori said Russian tanks were in the streets while their South Ossetian allies seized cars, looted homes and set houses on fire.

As confusion reigned on the first day of the cease-fire agreement, Bush called a Rose Garden speech to express concern about reports the Russians were already breaking it.

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He said he was sending Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice first to France and then to Tbilisi to reinforce U.S. efforts to "rally the world in defense of a free Georgia."

For her part, Rice said: "This is not 1968 and the invasion of Czechoslovakia where Russia can threaten a neighbor, occupy a capital, overthrow a government and get away with it. Things have changed."

The president said a huge U.S. aid effort was under way, including American naval forces and C-17 military cargo planes, to get clothes, blankets, medicine and other supplies to refugees. The European Union agreed to consider deploying European peacekeeping monitors to the area.

Besides the hundreds killed since hostilities broke out last week, a United Nations agency estimates 100,000 Georgians may have been uprooted. A spokesman said the U.N. refugee agency was helping evacuate about 1,500 people fleeing the Kodori Gorge in the breakaway province of Abkhazia alone on Wednesday.

Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili conducted a blitz of interviews with news outlets at home and abroad and made a series of claims, some of which were disputed as inaccurate or exaggerated.

He said on national television that the U.S. arrival of a military cargo plane with humanitarian aid "means that Georgia's ports and airports will be taken under the control of the U.S. Defense Department."

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell stressed the United States had no plans to take over Georgian airports or seaports to deliver the aid.

"It is simply not required for us to fulfill our humanitarian mission," he said. "We have no designs on taking control of any Georgian facility."

In a sharp response to Bush's speech, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov called Georgia's leadership "a special project of the United States. And we understand that the United States is worried about its project."

Russian news agencies quoted him saying the United States would have to choose "support for a virtual project" and or "real partnership" on issues such as U.S.-Russian cooperation on Iran and other world tension spots.

Saakashvili criticized Western nations for failing to help Georgia, a U.S. ally that has been seeking NATO membership. "In a way," he said, "Russians are fighting a proxy war with the West through us."

The conflict centers on South Ossetia and another region claimed by Georgia that leans Russian, Abkhazia. When Georgia cracked down on South Ossetia on Aug. 7, Russia sent its tanks and troops into the two regions and deeper into Georgia proper.

Georgia, bordering the Black Sea between Turkey and Russia, was ruled by Moscow for most of the two centuries preceding the 1991 breakup of the Soviet Union.

Abkhazia lies close to the heart of many Russians. Its coast was a favorite vacation spot in Soviet times and the province is just down the coast from Sochi, the Russian resort that will host the 2014 Olympics.

Russia has distributed passports to most in South Ossetia and Abkhazia and stationed peacekeepers there since the early 1990s. Georgia wants the peacekeepers out, but Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has insisted they stay.

Jeffrey Mankoff, an adjunct fellow for Russian studies at The Council on Foreign Relations, said it was too soon to tell the real intentions behind Russia's push into Georgia.

"On the one hand this could be a way to set up a buffer zone between the separatist regions, and on the other it also seems there is an aspect of disbanding the Georgian military aspects," Mankoff said.

In defiance, a few dozen Abkhazian fighters, some with assault rifles and one with a dagger, planted their red, white and green flag in Georgian territory across the Inguri River.

"This is Abkhazian land," one of them said. Another laughed that Georgians retreating from Abkhazia had received "American training in running away."

The peace plan apparently would allow Georgian forces to return to the positions they held in South Ossetia and Abkhazia before Aug. 7 and clearly requires Russia to leave all parts of Georgia except South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

Nevertheless, Georgian Security Council chief Alexander Lomaia said 50 Russian tanks entered Gori on Wednesday morning. Some of the Russian units that later left to camp outside the city were camouflaged with foliage.

The convoy was mainly support vehicles, including ambulances, although there were a few heavy cannons. There were about 100 combat troops and another 100 medics, drivers and other support personnel.

About six miles away from the camp, about 80 well-equipped Georgian soldiers were forming what appeared to be a new front line, armed with pistols, shoulder-launched anti-tank rockets and Kalashnikovs.

Sporadic clashes continued in South Ossetia where Russians responded to Georgian snipers.

In the Black Sea port of Poti, and Georgian television showed boats ablaze in the harbor. Georgia's security chief also said Russian forces targeted three Georgian boats, while Lavrov said Russian troops were nowhere near the city.

For several days, Russian troops held the western town of Zugdidi near Abkhazia, controlling the region's main highway. An AP reporter saw a convoy of 13 Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers in Zugdidi's outskirts Wednesday. Later in the day, Georgian officials said the Russians pulled out of Zugdidi.

Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko issued a decree Wednesday saying that Russian navy ships deployed to the Georgian coast will need authorization to return to the navy base Russia leases from Ukraine.

The rights group Human Rights Watch said it has witnessed South Ossetian fighters looting ethnic Georgians' houses and has recorded multiple accounts of Georgian militias intimidating ethnic Ossetians. The report was important independent confirmation of the claims by each side in the Russia-Georgia conflict.

Meanwhile, at the Olympics in Beijing, Georgia and Russia clashed in competition for the first time. Georgia rallied to beat Russia in beach volleyball, two sets to one.

"Russia and Georgia are actually friends. People are friends," said the Georgian beach volleyball team leader, Levan Akhtulediani. "I say once again, its better to compete on the field rather than outside the field.

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Associated Press writers Christopher Torchia reported from Zugdidi, Georgia, and near the Kodori Gorge; Matti Friedman and Sergei Grits from outside Gori, Georgia; Misha Dzhindzhikhashvili and David Nowak from Tbilisi, Georgia; Vladimir Isachenkov, Jim Heintz, Lynn Berry and Angela Charlton in Moscow; Matthew Lee, Pauline Jelinek and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington; John Heilprin at the United Nations; and Carley Petesch in New York contributed to this report.

OUTSIDE GORI, Georgia — A Russian military convoy defied a cease-fire agreement Wednesday and rolled through a strategically important city in the former Soviet republic of Georgia, which claime...
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- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 231 fans permalink
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Exactly WHO is this 'AP reporter? Does he/she have a NAME? Can he/she manage a BYLINE?

AP, huh? Riiiiiiigg­ggghhhhht.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/13/2008
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Associated Press writers Christopher Torchia reported from Zugdidi, Georgia, and near the Kodori Gorge. Misha Dzhindzhikhashvili from Tbilisi, Georgia. David Nowak in Tbilisi; Sergei Grits in Ruisi, Georgia; Douglas Birch in Tskhinvali, Georgia; Jim Heintz, Vladimir Isachenkov, Lynn Berry and Angela Charlton in Moscow; Pauline Jelinek and Lolita C. Baldor in Washington and John Heilprin at the United Nations contributed to this report.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 08/13/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 231 fans permalink
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Please tell me why I should believe ANYTHING the AP prints. Then again.....­.. don't bother.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 08/13/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

Nailed K6!

ha!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 08/13/2008

But what is really important is what color shoes Condi has been shopping for....som­e expert on Russia..sh­e has been MIA during this entire conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 08/13/2008
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Not true I heard her on the radio just yesterday (and she sounded scared sh*tless).
Bushies are so out of their league.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/13/2008
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Apparently she knows enough to keep her nose out of stuff she knows nothing about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 08/13/2008
- LarsGruber I'm a Fan of LarsGruber 34 fans permalink

and she was SUPPOSED to be a Russian expert!

I knew that wouldn't pan out. Russians know that she's a lightweight who happens to work for an even lighterweight

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 08/13/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 08/13/2008
- aztecdiva I'm a Fan of aztecdiva 5 fans permalink
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Is anyone bothered by the idea that the Georgian President expected that if he went into South Ossetia that he would get US support? This seems to fall in line toward the NeoCon statements about creating some sort of national security issue that would support McCain's candidacy. He was just on CNN going off on Russia and got very upset when the anchor asked about his invasion into South Ossetia. Something smells very fishy. Even Condi Rice told Georgia not to go in and they did anyway. The Irish Times said that Putin went pale when he found out in Bejing that Georgia had invaded South Ossetia.

CNN pointed out that the oil pipelines had been shut down. Something just does sit well with me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 08/13/2008

I am. The sad part is the neocons are so proud of their record of destruction that they'll do anything to continue it. Now Georgian civilians are a campaign dirty trick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 08/13/2008
- aztecdiva I'm a Fan of aztecdiva 5 fans permalink
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Yesterday, the Georgian President was accusing the Russians of ethnic cleansing. Using that term after 5 days just sounds like a drum beat to get sympathy and create an international crisis to condemn Russia and the MSM to overlook Georgia's instigation of the conflict.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

Think about what you are trying to suggest: That weakening US foreign policy in the Caucuses is a campaign "dirty trick."

That makes little rhyme or reason.

Gee, do you think that MAYBE the RUSSIANS, who are in Georgia, should be blamed for THEIR bombing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 08/13/2008
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"Putin went pale," yeah that was because he saw the Aussie Olympic outfits as they walked in before the Chinese.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/13/2008

I'm from Sydney, and geez they were crap! What's with the light blue - green & gold at least was distinctive (or quasi-Iris­h...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

Everything is not a plot.

Georgia's actions did not strengthen the US, nor its position in that region. The President of Georgia was elected partially on the platform of reclaiming territory that is in the hands of separatists.

After all, both break-away regions ARE in Georgian territory.

Keep in mind, too, that Georgians were complaining about attacks coming for South Ossetia. After all, both the Ossetians and the Abkhazians feel emboldened by the Russian support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/13/2008
- aztecdiva I'm a Fan of aztecdiva 5 fans permalink
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Understandable, however if you saw the Georgian President on CNN, you would have a different impression. His comments were way out of sync of common sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 08/13/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 582 fans permalink
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"After all, both break-away regions ARE in Georgian territory.­"

Just as Georgia was in the territory of the USSR. Please tell us how a second standard applies to the ethnic Russian population of Abkhazia and South Ossetia... Riiiight, the self-determination of people only applies to US-friendly countries.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 08/13/2008
- shengirl I'm a Fan of shengirl 10 fans permalink

uuhhh, remember when Saddam invaded Kuwait, we had left him with the impression that we so favored him, we would do nothing if he invaded Kuwait. Gotta do something about that chapter in the State Department handbook, guys!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 08/13/2008

Huffpost, why is it hard for you guys to swallow the truth about my comment. Is that not the truth or you are afraid you will be targeted by .....? huh! The truth will always be out there and whether you agree with me or not others have written the same any wa, and it is my fervent prayer the Russians should not stop till they can also make their point but strongly to all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 08/13/2008
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And what point would that be ...comrade AfricanusI.

Would that point be how many Georgian Civilians your Russian Military can kill under an flag of "Truce."?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

Make their point...to who? And for why?

So, breaking a truce, looting, and continuing to attack is making a point? I guess it would be, "You cannot trust the Russians."

I guess it is the same point made in Chechnya, right?

You Neocoms really cut the cake.

You wouldn't know truth if it smacked you in the face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 08/13/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

I think the expression is "take the cake". If the Neocons would just cut the cake, they would be doing a service. Instead, they insist on taking it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 08/13/2008
- Lion24 I'm a Fan of Lion24 119 fans permalink
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Like they did in Eastern Europe for 45 years? What color is the sky in your world??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 08/13/2008
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Truce, lol...ther­e was never a Truce...th­e Russians just needed more time to consolidate there forces.
They now have so now its on to the Georgian Capital.

Truce ROFL there never was one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

Actually, the Russians agreed to it, but obviously they cannot be trusted to abide by it.

The President of France must feel a bit frustrated, seeing how the President of Russia lied to him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 08/13/2008

French and American presidents never lie to anyone, true?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 08/13/2008
- iblis I'm a Fan of iblis 2 fans permalink

It took the west nearly 50 years, led by the US to bring down the hollow Soviet Union. Putin's Russia grows fat on the world's dependence on fossil fuels. When dependence on fossil fuels is done away in another 20-25 years, Russia will collapse again. The recent Russian adventure has only reinforced former East Europeans mistrust and dislike of the Russian bear. W. Europeans now understand how important the US is to their freedom and security. They sort of took their freedoms for granted after the collapse of the Berlin wall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 08/13/2008

Ths U.S. could have brought down the Soviet Union in 1942 by not allying itself with Stalin.

Everything after that was damage control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 08/13/2008

Hey you Mudblood, did you forget about that Hitler problem we had going on at the time?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 08/13/2008
- axt113 I'm a Fan of axt113 2 fans permalink

McCain will keep us dependent for another 50-100 years, he doesn't like alternative energy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 08/13/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 375 fans permalink
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CNN has Matthew Chance on the line in the middle of the advance from Gori to Tbilisi.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 08/13/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 390 fans permalink
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Don't worry. I'm sure our administration's best foreign-policy minds are on the job as we speak.

Oh we are so f-ing screwed!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 08/13/2008
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We need Obama to step in and save the day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 08/13/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 390 fans permalink
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Couldn't hurt. He might get something right just out of sheer statistical chance which would still put him ahead of the current bunch. The bar has been set very, very low.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 08/13/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 582 fans permalink
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"our administration's best foreign-policy minds"

Best oxymoron of 2008...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 08/13/2008

I wonder if the Russian's are going to use mustard gas like they did in Afghanista­n..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 08/13/2008
- nastyvirus I'm a Fan of nastyvirus 2 fans permalink

No, there are modern ways to keep the terrorists at bay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

Yeah, such as indiscriminate bombing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 08/13/2008
- NYCMami I'm a Fan of NYCMami 13 fans permalink

This is all so terribly 80's. Remember that song "But, I'm afraid of the Russians, afraid we've got to fight"??

http://www.inthe80s.com/coldwar.shtml

....sigh..­... I miss bands that gave a c ra p.

Midnight Oil lives!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 08/13/2008

I personally do not believe that Russia is at fault here. I firmly believe Georgia has been terrorizing people in the disputed region, despite peace-keeping efforts there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 08/13/2008
- mabinog I'm a Fan of mabinog 39 fans permalink
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I believe that to be the situation as well, that however, does not mean that Russia will not take the opportunity to cripple Georgia militarily and then try to negotiate terms that make Georgia their client state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 08/13/2008
- dillydawg I'm a Fan of dillydawg 58 fans permalink
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I totally agree. We have such horrible press in this country, it's hard to believe anything of importance that they report. Their expertise is in trival entertainment matters, not in world or domestic concerns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 AM on 08/13/2008

Yes you are right, especially since McCain and the NeoCons are in bed w/ the Georgians via a McCain staffer as a lobbyist there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 08/13/2008
- aztecdiva I'm a Fan of aztecdiva 5 fans permalink
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It says something with the Georgia President lying saying that he didn't invade and that they will never surrender. Sounds way to similar to McCains drum beat for war!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

South Ossetia is in GEORGIAN territory. Of course it is not an invasion when it is within his nation's own border.

It was the Russians that invaded That cannot be disputed.

Well, only disputed by someone that appears to be missing their front lobe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 08/13/2008

DId you like Vladimir's Kool Aid ? You seem to have drank it all. I'm sure Putin is pleased with you.
WAKE UP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

OF course Russia is at fault - THEY ARE IN GEORGIAN TERRITORY.

Look at events: Russia provides citizenship to people who are, for all intents and purpose, Georgian citizens. After all, both Abkhazia and South Ossetia ARE in Georgian territory. This is recognized by every single nation on Earth.

Now, did Georgia have to start military operations against South Ossetia? Most likely, some other manner could have been found to resolve the issue. But South Ossetia is an internal Georgian issue, just like North Ossetia is an internal Russian issue (since it lies within Russian borders).

Let me gues - you are anti-Iraq war, right? But you are pro-Russian invasion?

Some of you are very, very strange.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 08/13/2008

Screw with the bull..you get the horns.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 08/13/2008
- jdfast I'm a Fan of jdfast 3 fans permalink
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You are right. No matter how much W and his dumb ass foreign policy advisers told the leaders of Georgia that they were the greatest thing since sliced bread, they enabled and emboldened them to tweek Russia's nose. They did and got their ass kicked. Maybe now the people of this country understand what kind of leadership we have had for the last eight years. Worthless would be the kindest word that I can think of at this time. No foreign policy, no energy policy, no economic policy, no nothing. Thanks for all your hard work W, and please take your assistants like Alberto and Dick and Condi, and the rest of the neocons with you when you turn out the light in January.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 08/13/2008

Another dim bulb liberal who can't bring himself to criticize Russia or Putin - it is all Bush's fault. You need a clear vision of reality not filtered thru your left wing bias.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 08/13/2008
- JJ30 I'm a Fan of JJ30 3 fans permalink

Totaldisbelief and jdfast: You guys are dead on correct and to add to that: Bush and McCain need to stay out of it. The last thing we need is to tick off Russia.

I was watching Olberman last night and he was talking about why McCain is taking the stand he is on this issue: One of McCain's top foreign policy who is advising him on this issue is a lobbyist for Georgia. No surprise there.

Bush and McCain just need to sit back and let the European leaders handle this. We (US) have problems of our own to deal with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/13/2008
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I don't know what you are thinking Russia sets up camp in Armenia to the south of Georgia.
taking over Georgia is a benefit to Russia How?

Why they get control of a pipeline that pumps boat loads of oil. Didn't cost them a penny to build it either.

They thwart plans to build a train line and they gain access to their Military bases in Armenia, which just happens to border Iran.

You go and run the world on your propeller beanie and unicorn wishes if you want to but Georgia has been a Western ally.

When Russia controls the Worlds oil supply you can be on your computer for a half an hour a month good luck with that Russian free speech clause, access to a free press or the rest of your human rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 08/13/2008
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Actually, screw with the bear, you get the teeth and clows.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 08/13/2008
- Baculus I'm a Fan of Baculus 3 fans permalink

Totaldisbelief, so you support the Iraqi war too, right?

Because if you oppose it, you are just another hypocrite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 08/13/2008
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