Clinton's Name To Be Placed In Nomination

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  |   August 14, 2008 08:40 AM



UPDATE: The AP is now reporting that a deal has been reached:

During the Denver gathering, Democrats will officially choose Obama to run against Republican John McCain this fall, but the state delegations will do a traditional roll call for their nominee's vanquished primary opponent as well.


Obama and Clinton -- fierce rivals then, reluctant allies now -- agreed to the arrangement after weeks of negotiations between their respective aides. The two sides made the announcement Thursday in a collegial joint statement.

"I am convinced that honoring Senator Clinton's historic campaign in this way will help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong united fashion," said Obama, an Illinois senator.

***END OF UPDATE***

Marc Ambinder reports that an agreement is close for Hillary Clinton's name to be included in the roll call at the Democratic National Convention:

Reports of strife between negotiators for Sen. Hillary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama are exaggerated and the two sides are nearing an agreement on how Clinton's delegates will participate in the formal nominating process at the Democratic National Convention, according to advisers to both Democrats.


Although Clinton had resisted pressure from donors, allies and supporters to accept demands to allow her name placed in nomination, she and aides to Obama seemed to realize independently that doing so would be the best way to incorporate and welcome Clinton's supporters into Obama's general election campaign, both symbolically and practically.

According to several people who have spoken with her, Clinton originally believed that if her name were included in the roll call on Wednesday, August 27, she would inevitably wind up with fewer delegates than the 1896.5 she earned from the primaries. That would look bad and could demoralize her supporters.

In negotiations this summer with Obama's campaign, Clinton's team did not ask for Clinton's name to be submitted.

But within the past week, Clinton advisers informed the Obama team that many of Clinton's staunchest supporters felt strongly that something had to be done, and that Clinton had concluded that, in part for the sake of unity, their wishes ought to be respected. They heard back immediately: the Obama campaign had always been open to having her name placed in nomination alongside his.

The New York Daily News reported recently that Clinton had asked not to be nominated. But at a fundraiser last week in California, Clinton told supporters she was looking for a way to recognize them at the convention. "I happen to believe that we will come out stronger if people feel that their voices were heard and their views respected, she said. "I think that is a very big part of how we actually come out unified."

UPDATE: The AP is now reporting that a deal has been reached: During the Denver gathering, Democrats will officially choose Obama to run against Republican John McCain this fall, but the state deleg...
UPDATE: The AP is now reporting that a deal has been reached: During the Denver gathering, Democrats will officially choose Obama to run against Republican John McCain this fall, but the state deleg...
 
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This will backfire in the worst way for these stupid Hillary supporters, and the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 AM on 08/18/2008

Stupid Hillary supporters?

Okay, like the a***hole Obama supporters

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 08/18/2008

Obama/Biden '08!!!
and the Clintons are aligned.
Guess the Republicans will go back to slandering all of the Democratic party now...
It's all they have.... their candidate is a toad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 08/23/2008

After reading this you may wish to have another choice
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0519/p09s02-coop.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 08/16/2008
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After reading and believing this, you should immediately seek psychiatric help!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 08/17/2008

D e a n was on the roll call in 2004. He had far fewer delegates than hill. It dodn;t bother anyone then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 08/15/2008

Hillary, your current drug of choice was banned by the FDA during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Obviously you are still consuming this highly intoxicating drug in its diluted generic form with a trace of meth and the like.......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 08/15/2008

Your a tad twisted and a severe hypocrite.

Bill and Hill will probably be v-e-r-y good for the 'dem' (actually far right lite) party. Wait and see ...... they'll be a big boost.

I think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 AM on 08/16/2008

A visible roll call: Can you say "Vendetta List" ???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 08/15/2008

Funny how Edwards and Obama turned out to be such Fakes.
They both lied about everything during the primaries.
And the Lemmming still lap it up.
Being cute works. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 08/15/2008

Were HRC and McSame any less fakes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 08/15/2008

Now THERE's a ringing endorsement!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 08/18/2008

And neither one are even that cute.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 AM on 08/16/2008

Obama supporters should be very very worried. The Clintons aren't holding this roll call vote just so she can have some "catharsis" nonsense. No way.

At this very moment, arms are being twisted, favors are being called in, files are being perused, and threats are being murmurred. If the Clintons can coerce just a small percentage of the delegates to switch their votes, Mr. Obama is going to get the shock of his life when all the votes are cast. And it would serve him right for trusting the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 08/15/2008
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"Cleave". Appropriate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 08/15/2008

Seriously, you're not buying all this "unity" stuff, are you? Do you honestly think the Clintons are interested in unity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 08/15/2008

It's a calculated risk - Obama weighed plus & minus - it's best in the long run. *BUT* I wonder how many SD's will be named Judas after the count. I would not want to be on that list. The sooner Clintons are disarmed, the better. This is a step to that end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 08/15/2008

I think anticipating a grand purple showdown at the convention overestimates the Clintons' power to sway delegates. At best the roll call will come off as their swan song; at worst, it'll just be a huge embarassment for them. All through the primaries, delegates switched from Clinton to Obama, but none ever switched in the other direction. Nothing has happened to reverse that trend. The Clintons have no standing in the party anymore and no real bargaining chips, so there's no reason to think any delegate will fear reprisals from them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 08/17/2008



Poor Senator Obama ,

This is worse than Corsi ..........
to be swift boated by your opponent's bully ways.........

Being a gentleman will get you nowhere

Clinton's do not give a dam about their country or their supporters
why should care about you Senator Obama

You know his supporters will neve waver .... why allow this to take place ??
They had no power at all - you were in charge
by allowing them to do this and giving them so much ......
you have given them power..........

SWIFT BOATED BY HRC

SHE HAS delievered the final blow ..........
JUDAS has striken !!!!

CORSI is a angel compare to this maqueavelic move from the Clinton's

Mind my words..................
Worst mistake ever !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 08/15/2008

Absolutely correct Barry08. Obama - having one of the of these "ready for diaster" moments?
Big mistake!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 08/17/2008

If Obama won't stand up to the Clintons, how can we expect him to stand up to anybody? If he gets elected, it's bye-bye Georgia, bye-bye Taiwan, bye-bye Iraq, bye-bye Israel . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 08/15/2008
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Oh please.

Obama is reaching across the aisle, as it were. I realize after the last 8 years that's a difficult concept to wrap your head around, but do try. This "game" is almost over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 08/15/2008

That is a bit extreme, MrCleaveland. The problem facing Sen. Obama is this: if he refuses to cooperate with Billary altogether, those disgruntled HRC supporters will become even MORE so! Still, as you suggest, he does not need to project an image of weakness with regard to dealing with the Clintons. As it is said, he is "caught between a rock and a hard place."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 08/15/2008

But I thought the Obama supporters said Hillary's supporters are mainly Republicans and don't equal more than a handful.

Why then would Sen. Obama be worried about them???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 08/16/2008

For something that whould bring about unity, there are over 5,000 divisive comments. She's doing it again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 08/15/2008

Hillary to Obama, "Come Into My Parlor Said The Spider To The Fly."
There are 1639.5 PLEDGED delegates for Hillary Clinton that were selected by the voters in the Democratic Primary. For her to get any less than that number at the Convention will demonstrate that the election process is a farce and can be rigged by buying the superdelegates and "Organizing" the Caucuses in Obama's favor. Never use the words, "Fair and Square" to describe Obama's nomination again.
Money linked to endorsements
BY ROB HOTAKAINEN
MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS
WASHINGTON -- When Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill endorsed Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, she said she'd found a candidate who "gives us a reason to believe again."
Obama believed in her, too, donating $10,000 from his political action committee to her 2006 campaign. She received nothing from New York Sen. Hillary Clinton's PAC.
A study by the Center for Responsive Politics concludes that campaign contributions have become a fairly reliable predictor of whose side a superdelegate will take.
If that's the case, it's good news for Obama. Since 2005, his PAC has donated $710,900 to superdelegates' campaign funds, more than three times as much as Clinton's PAC. Her PAC distributed $236,100 to their campaign funds during the three-year period.
In cases where superdelegates received money from Obama's Hope Fund but none from Clinton's PAC, Obama got the superdelegates' support 85 percent of the time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 08/15/2008

She underestimated her opponent. LIVE with IT!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 08/15/2008
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What, exactly, is she doing?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 08/15/2008

foxfan: Yeah, right, Hillary is causing the O supporters to spew hatred in over 5000 posts here.

It is all her fault.

Right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 08/16/2008
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Can't you just feel the unity?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 08/15/2008

Oh yeah.. Wrapping itself around the Democratic party like a lover's embrace, so warm, so comforting.. It's almost like being back in the womb...

Why I think we shouldn't stop here. Let's bring Monica Lewinsky, Gennifer Flowers and Kenneth Starr to the convention and sit them next to Bill and Hillary so they, too can have a "cathartic and healing experience", which they feel is so good and healthy for the rest of the Democratic party and the nation to experience

I'm sure they'll all go home feeling better and their marriage and family and lives will be stronger and happier as a result...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 08/15/2008

And don't forget the LOVE! Feel the LOVE, my Democratic brothers and sisters!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 08/15/2008

ALL of the pundits, Republican and Democratic alike, on CNN and MSNBC this morning all seemed to concur that this was a very, very BAD idea. The Republican strategists made the point that you can bet that the Republican won't be humoring any such roll call for Romney, Huckabee, etc - not that we should be looking to the Republicans in any way as to how to behave, quite the opposite, but it was still an interesting point.

I'm an Obama supporter and I completely support Clinton's name being placed into nomination - I just hope that the Party, stongly backed by the Clintons, will then have the backbone, after months upon months of pandering to and placating the dissenters in our Party, to show any residual underminers the door and lock it behind them if these folks can't then bring themselves, upon Clinton's conclusive and probably overwhelming loss at the convention, to show an ounce of grace and move forward with the Party and with an Obama nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 08/15/2008

Did Huckabee or Romney get the amount of votes and delegates as Hillary??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 PM on 08/15/2008

No, and they never will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 08/15/2008

A loss is a loss, now isn't it? What threshold do you suggest before someone can or can not be placed into nomination? Also, I'm sure that there's no shortage of Romney, Huckabee, or other R-candidates, that are very upset that their candidate didn't win, despise McCain, but they aren't complaining and are instead supporting their Party's nominee - which is why they win elections.

Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line, as they say. While I don't necessarity applaud "falling in line" it has proven repeatedly to be an election winning practice for the Republicans, now hasn't it? I myself would have been far from thilled with a Clinton nomination, but still would have fallen in line to secure a Democratic win. But I guess that's the difference between myself and maybe yourself - I support the Party and merely prefer a candidate, as opposed to worshipping a candidate and undermining the Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 08/15/2008
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60 mangy ol cats made the advertised 250 at the closed door conference - moved to new location for not meeting number of attendees required...

250 was small.

60 is nonexistent!

they've been busted and can now easliy be dismissed by hillory and the party. look for more education puma press...

and look for the puma bloggers to change to a different mangy old fur disguise. more sympathetic and placating - kind of leaves an oily feeling behind...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 08/15/2008

"...STRONGLY BACKED BY THE CLINTONS"??? I want some of whatever you put in YOUR coffee!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 08/15/2008
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"dissenters" is the new word for a Clinton supporter? The Convention is where the nominee is officially named still, right. Er.. and we do still live in a democracy, don't we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 08/15/2008

I think that is is great that Barack, our next president, is as big a person as he is. This inflates him in my eyes in a way that he hasn't been until now. I would love to still see Hillary as VP, but she will have a prominent role and she deserves one. She is an awesome role model to women and people everywhere. She didn't give up, and how many of us would? She has impressed men I know who I didn't think were impressible when it comes to women. This whole race has been good for our country in terms of whet Afircan descendents (half represented in Obama) and women can do. I know so many people who are voting for Obama and some of them are quite a surprise, given their past views and comments. I am shocked and pleased that I have dyed in the wool Republicans in my family that support him. They see how far our country has fallen, or think McCain is too old and elitist, and see Obama as a family man with young children that they can relate more to. They think that he will try to get more done for us because he can relate on some level, and is young and has youthful energy and a strong intellect. Truly amazing! This is a really good thing. Lets all keep it together and WIN! Obama 08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 08/15/2008
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When I look back over Hillary's campaign and recall the words and actions of Bill during that campaign, I am more and more convinced that (1) Bill in some sense hijacked her campaign, and (2) the reason he did is that he imagined himself, rather than Hillary, to be the one in the contest with Obama. Most striking to me was learning, from the leaked memos, that it was Bill and not Hillary who made the decision to go with the 3am ad. I harped on this in several posts because it seemed so telling. That should not have been a difficult one for her to make and yet she failed to make it; a fortiori, then, she left other, more difficult and more important decisions, to him.

Hillary did seem to begin deferring to him many months back; whether she did that on her own from lack of confidence or whether he hijacked her campaign and started making the decisions himself before she could stop him, I don't know.

I do believe that, in Bill's mind, this is a macho, alpha male, epic struggle with Obama and that Bill has no intention of losing. He won't be president again but if he could just get his wife through that oval office door one more time, he could be the next best thing to being president again. I wonder what he may have planned for the convention. It won't be candy and balloons, and it won't be humility, either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 08/15/2008
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If I might add something to my long, boring post about Bill hijacking Hillary's campaign. Here it is: I don't believe anymore that she will be able to steal the nomination. Thanks to cooler heads than mine and their assurances, I see that I was being kind of hysterical about that. However,I am not entirely convinced that Bill won't try. Or if not that, that he won't make some kind of trouble for Obama at the convention, even if it's just upstaging him. I will be so glad when that convention is over, I am going to have a big party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 08/15/2008

I am really looking forward to the convention, where the past and present of our great party, merge and give our next president, Barack Obama, a big and exiting send off for the general election. Be exited, don't be scared. Things are going well, and there is a good momentum building. Embrace it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 08/15/2008

I don't think that people should worry about her stealing anything. Instead, they should keep an eye out on the republicans, who have a track record and the experience of doing so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 08/15/2008

long and boring you saidit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 PM on 08/16/2008
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For those of you still supporting PUMA- look at this disgrace!


http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/15/puma-de-fanged-on-hardball/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 08/15/2008
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No. I'll just get all riled up again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 08/15/2008

abby4ever: Have you ever tried acting in Hollywood?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 08/16/2008

I understand that Barack supporters are very pleased with the unprofessional stance of MSNBC "reporters" (if that is what they call themselves). But you should understand that our democracy requires a press that is not biased and so unprofessional so that we can rely on them for information not slanted reports. Otherwise, we are left with propaganda, which we agree with when it's MSNBC or disagree with when it's FOX.

I don't see that Schuster was anything but partisan in this clip. He interrupted repeatedly. He made assertions that are either untrue or in dispute. In no sense, was that interview an impartial questioning of the people he had on the show.

I think it is a shame that what goes for news this days is partisan presentations be it Fox or now MSNBC and CNN. This is a very dangerous development.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 08/15/2008

He/MSNBC was hoping it made people like you realize how stupid you look to the country/world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 08/15/2008
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