Ocean "Dead Zones" Become Worldwide Problem

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RANDOLPH E. SCHMID | August 14, 2008 03:09 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — Like a chronic disease spreading through the body, "dead zones" with too little oxygen for life are expanding in the world's oceans.

"We have to realize that hypoxia is not a local problem," said Robert J. Diaz of the Virginia Institute of Marine Science. "It is a global problem and it has severe consequences for ecosystems."

"It's getting to be a problem of such a magnitude that it is starting to affect the resources that we pull out of the sea to feed ourselves," he added.

Diaz and co-author Rutger Rosenberg report in Friday's edition of the journal Science that there are now more than 400 dead zones around the world, double what the United Nations reported just two years ago.

"If we screw up the energy flow within our systems we could end up with no crabs, no shrimp, no fish. That is where these dead zones are heading unless we stop their growth," Diaz said in a telephone interview.

The newest dead areas are being found in the Southern Hemisphere _ South America, Africa, parts of Asia _ Diaz said.

Some of the increase is due to the discovery of low-oxygen areas that may have existed for years and are just being found, he said, but others are actually newly developed.

Pollution-fed algae, which deprive other living marine life of oxygen, is the cause of most of the world's dead zones. Scientists mainly blame fertilizer and other farm run-off, sewage and fossil-fuel burning.

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Diaz and Rosenberg, of the University of Gothenburg in Sweden, conclude that it would be unrealistic to try to go back to preindustrial levels of runoff.

"Farmers aren't doing this on purpose," Diaz said. "The farmers would certainly prefer to have their (fertilizer) on the land rather than floating down the river."

He said he hopes that as fertilizers become more and more expensive farmers will begin seriously looking at ways to retain them on the land.

New low-oxygen areas have been reported in Samish Bay of Puget Sound, Yaquina Bay in Oregon, prawn culture ponds in Taiwan, the San Martin River in northern Spain and some fjords in Norway, Diaz said.

A portion of Big Glory Bay in New Zealand became hypoxic after salmon farming cages were set up, but began recovering when the cages were moved, he said.

A dead zone has been newly reported off the mouth of the Yangtze River in China, Diaz said, but the area has probably been hypoxic since the 1950s. "We just didn't know about it," he said.

Some of the reports are being published for the first time in journals accessible to Western scientists, he said.

Nancy N. Rabalais, executive director of the Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium, said she was not surprised at the increase in dead zones.

"There have been many more reported, but there truly are many more. What has happened in the industrialized nations with agribusiness as well that led to increased flux of nutrients from the land to the estuaries and the seas is now happening in developing countries," said Rabalais, who was not part of Diaz' research team.

She said she was told during a 1989 visit to South America that rivers there were too large to have the same problems as the Mississippi River. "Now many of their estuaries and coastal seas are suffering the same malady."

"The increase is a troubling sign for estuarine and coastal waters, which are among some of the most productive waters on the globe," she said.

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Virginia Institute of Marine Science: http://www.vims.edu

Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium: http://www.lumcon.edu

WASHINGTON — Like a chronic disease spreading through the body, "dead zones" with too little oxygen for life are expanding in the world's oceans. "We have to realize that hypoxia is not a local...
WASHINGTON — Like a chronic disease spreading through the body, "dead zones" with too little oxygen for life are expanding in the world's oceans. "We have to realize that hypoxia is not a local...
 
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Vulnerable ecosystems are a problem. How much should we spend and when? Or should we spend at all and give them up as lost for ever? These issues have been recently raised in the idea of application of medical triage (well known in war zones for instance when resources are strictly limited) to the impacts of climate change. I found some good ideas relating to ornithology in Terry Root's speeches and also on the followon website at www.climatechangetriage.net. It seems to be a sensible step in the right direction.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 08/24/2008

So much for the vastness of the oceans that they aren't affected by human activity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 08/23/2008
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It's good to see interest in this topic but conversely, and annoyingly, the coverage provided is sensationalist and incomplete as far as providing a balanced overview.
Hypoxic reservoirs exist in all the worlds oceans and some are almost preternaturally difficult to explain with our inadequate understanding of the worldwide oceanic currents, layering, and chemistry. Yes we have fairly clear current maps and some understanding of the drivers of these currents. Yes we have a sure knowledge of the centrality of these heat distribution mechanisms to alterations in the climate and so they are being studied carefully.
But our computer models do not and cannot account for many oceanic anomalies such as finding hypoxic zones where none should exist!! (Damn it - it's not on my computer model so the carpet of dead fish must be an illusion.)
Hypoxic and toxic patches of ocean have been recorded as far back as we have historical accounts. While there is no doubting that many dead zones are due to anthropomorphic factors - the most interesting from a scientific standpoint, and probably the more significant, are those with a geological or biological origin.
The multi factorial origin of hypoxic reservoirs within the oceans is a topic well worth consideration - but not sensationalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 08/17/2008

No one said they have never occurred before. It's the extent they exist now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 08/18/2008
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Do I see hydroponics coming on strong? And more injection of fertilizers into the soil, instead of spraying it with "best wishes"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 08/17/2008
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Why don't we strat buoilding ocean water treatment plants?

A big filter on a boat the cleans the water, filters out sealife which can returned to the sea and re-oxygenates the water!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 08/17/2008

Because its impossible to get the squeamish to consider 'toilet to tap' drinking water without getting the 'eeeewww....cooties' reaction.

Same with toilet paper - people would rather cut down a tree to wipe thier a$$es with, than use recycled paper.

London has had water recycling plants for decades, in fact the average glass of water from the tap has been through another human being approximately 7 times before it gets to you.

Funnily enough, I'd drink London tap water over L.A's in a heartbeat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 08/17/2008
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it don't just disappear
we're all drinking and excreting the same molecules
over and over
there is an awful lot of water
but just think of the depth of the limestone deposits worldwide
such an awful lot of critters over such a mindbogglingly immense period of time
the ocean is a sea of excrement
we all sip dimetrodon urine in our daily cuppa
I reckon it's kinda comforting

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 08/17/2008
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Another reason to buy Organic....True Organic not this federally owned word that seems to be on every label nowadays (organic twinkies anyone?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 PM on 08/16/2008

I wish that someone would take up this cause and do a serious documentary on it as it is out of control now between the hypoxic and the plastics and the dumping grounds where the trash ends up isn't getting to the right people to have them hear what this is and how it affects us. Just like the burning of the rain forest and how it affects the ar the oceans being dead will also mean the death of us. It is time for more to know the impact on the world we make and it's all together to include climate warming. It is sad but it also includes the frenzy about the off shore drilling. The rigs leak too as well as the crap killing off the Gulf due to the farmers runoff which is supposed to help grow fields and keep the bugs down also is a killer. The list needs to be front and center so the impact is also something we have to see in front of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 08/16/2008

For those of you that would like to help to save the planet and live sustainably in the US, I have developed a full proposal and will soon be launching an initiative for a Campaign for a Sustainable America. It includes a Call for a National Strategy for Sustainability, which the US agreed to develop and implement during the World Summit on Sustainable Development in 2002. The mission is to make as rapid a transition to full sustainability in the US as possible. If you would like to help with this please call Rob Wheeler at 717-264-5036 or write Robineagle@worldcitizen.org. I can send anyone that is interested much more information.

Rob Wheeler
www.citnet.org/leadership

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/17/2008

I think that "timed release" fertilizers involve much less runoff. The "problem" is that they tend to be more expensive than the 4 dollar a bag nitrogen fertilizers. But I think they would be cheaper in the long run because you don't fertilize as often. They should be mandatory where any fertilizer flows into a larger body of water.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 08/17/2008
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I hope our descendants don't hate us too terribly bad. After all, we will leave them pictures, videos and specimens in zoos and museums about what a cool place this used to be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 08/16/2008
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I for one don't plan to leave my descendants some dog-eared photo albums, "rivrgrrl." It's still a cool place we have here, and I for one intend to keep doing everything I can to keep it that way...

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 08/16/2008
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I'm with you, Leland. I'll never stop fighting for this planet. But we are getting awfully close to the point of no return. I don't think our offspring will see the same wonderful world many now take for granted.

I remember my shock more than ten years ago when I read that there is no longer clean, pure water anywhere on this whole planet. Pollution was found in every sample tested. The only pure water available is that from melted glaciers. Now those too are melting at unprecedented rates.

While we can preserve what little is left and try to restore some that is lost, it will never be the same.

As I resent the Timber Barons of the last century who clear cut America, depriving us of the importance and beauty of virgin forests, our descendants may justifiable resent us for our poor stewardship of this great planet.

But I will continue to fight for what is still here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 08/16/2008

For those of you that would like to help to save the planet and live sustainably in the US, I have developed a full proposal and will soon be launching an initiative for a Campaign for a Sustainable America. It includes a Call for a National Strategy for Sustainability, which the US agreed to develop and implement during the World Summit on Sustainable Development in 2002. The mission is to make as rapid a transition to full sustainability in the US as possible. If you would like to help with this please call Rob Wheeler at 717-264-5036 or write Robineagle@worldcitizen.org. I can send anyone that is interested much more information.

Rob Wheeler
www.citnet.org/leadership

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 08/17/2008
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So let's just drill everywhere and destroy the rest of everything.

Humans destroy themselves for a new SUV.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 08/16/2008

I am 62 years old. In 1946, the year of my birth there were approximately 2.5 billion people on earth, now there are over 6 billion. Over population is a problem no one seems to be willing to face

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 AM on 08/16/2008

And the population of the country was maybe 150 million? I know it passed 200 million about the mid 60's. Now we are on our way to well over 400 million by 2050. But then when I mention overpopulation in this country below, you get some guy going on a rant because he's determined to be offended. That's why no one is willing to face it, because of the people who want to turn it into a right wing/left wing conflict. It's common sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 08/16/2008
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Gasper,

you're issuing a red herring here; planetary overpopulation will not be solved by halting immigration into the US, bottom line. And halting immigration into the US was your original argument, not halting overpopulation itself:

"And it's all made worse by overpopulation, in this country and aroung the world. In this country, we can do something about it by drastically cutting immigration, legal and illegal."

It's a nice attempt to co-opt the issue for the benefit of the anti-immigration crowd, but it won't stop the overall problem one iota. Merely "cutting immigration" does not equate to halting runaway population growth by any stretch of the imagination.

Those people you would exclude from the US will still be living in poverty, and still having too many children thanks to the triple-whammy of pervasive cultural and official Catholic anti-contraception dogmas, poverty, and sheer ignorance. Without family planning and access to contraception and, when needed, medically safe abortion, those babies will still keep coming, and potentially in greater numbers for the reasons I outlined above.

Common sense, yes, but not the way you originally presented it.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 08/20/2008

And it's all made worse by overpopulation, in this country and aroung the world. In this country, we can do something about it by drastically cutting immigration, legal and illegal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 08/16/2008
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You are right, there. We were at zero population growth when counting citizens. It is the immigrants that are pushing our numbers up. Time to close the borders and put Americans back to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 08/16/2008
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Rubbish. Illegal immigrants - the favorite boogeyman of the xenophobic far right- has nothing to do with the global overpopulation problem. The population growth rate will continue to increase even if we built our own Maginot Line along the border with Mexico. Illegal immigration is the symptom of a much broader disease afflicting billions of people worldwide, that of grinding, oppressive poverty exacerbated by a lack of education and economic opportunities.

Until family planning and access to effective contraception is made universally available to Third World populations, AND people in the developed nations stop thinking that having as many children as they can pop out is a God-given right, the global population will continue to spiral out of control, with catastrophic consequences for our entire species, to say nothing of the world's ecology as a whole.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 08/16/2008

You can read, correct? I said immigration, legal and illegal, to "this country" is contributing to the overpopulation of "this country". I never contended that illegal immigration is contributing to global overpopulation. And you can add, correct? Every person who comes here from outside the country adds to our population. Maybe next time you can actually reply to what I said, instead of going on some rant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 08/16/2008

This is all very worrying. Almost like the Earth has cancer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 AM on 08/16/2008
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Human-itis, a potentially deadly disease when left unchecked.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 08/16/2008
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The disease is avarice acted out through corporatism. Human overpopulation is the symptom.

The cure is attainable, and within our reach.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 08/16/2008

Hey I know how we can stop it. Lets enter into a anti-pollution accord with China, Russia, and India that will hamstring our economy and they won't live up to. That stuff always perks you glum libs up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 08/16/2008
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Part of the reason we're "glum" is that we want our grandchildren, and great grandchildren, to have the same opportunities we have, for basics like sunshine, a healthful environment, plentiful food, fresh air and water; and we're looking at signs that indicate that may not even be a possibility for them. Maybe you're happy just thinking in terms of the next game, the next TV show or superhero movie. If so, fine, but there's no need for you to waste anyone's time, including your own, coming here to disrespect people who aren't as short-sighted as you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 08/16/2008
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Spoken like a true 'idjut'.

It's like 'they' are proud of their ignorance, or something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 08/16/2008
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They are; they're the modern day version of the Know Nothings of America's 19th century body politic. Such also hold hypocrisy as a virtue, as long as they see it as profitable (or potentially so). Empirical data and human decency don't enter into their world view.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 08/16/2008
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Since you have no concern for any generation than your own to eat or fish or swim, fine, take that tack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 08/16/2008
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So, to use the village analogy, you and your neighbor have both been using the town well for both a water supply and a toilet. The water is starting to get funky. Do you continue to abuse the well in this manner because you are unsure if your neighbor will do so as well or not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 08/16/2008

No, what perks us glum libs up is solutions. And your handicap in the solutions department is what perks us down.

For some reason you seem to think you are actually making some point or other, when you assign an asinine scenario to the "lib" mindset -- one that a real progressive would never come up with -- and use it to put down a philosophy that's looking for real solutions.

Of course a "pact" like that would be useless, if it had no teeth. But you don't start a journey by carping on that it's impossible. You start a journey by packing and WALKING TO THE CAR.

It comes back to what you want, and what you think is possible. We want a livable planet, that will be livable for our descendants as well; what do YOU want, something to complain about?

We think we can get to that livable place, or we wouldn't be combatting your induced-helpless attitude. You likely think that a livable planet is (pick one): automatic -- "nature" will clean up all our messes somehow; or impossible -- just give up now, because there's no answer. Either of these attitudes are simply unacceptable, if the criteria is progress.

Another problem with such discussions, is that the one side (us) likes to use actual logic, whereas the other (you) think you can answer logic with ad-hominem and (ridiculous) ridicule. You make fun of us and think you've won the argument.

Um...NOT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 08/16/2008
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Oh, no...the oceans are crying...get a grip people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 08/16/2008

No, it's "the oceans are DYING."

It's YOU that needs to get a grip. On reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 08/16/2008
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dude...that is the funniest thing I have ever read.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 08/16/2008

bb(blah-blah)

After clicking on your profile, and reading a few of your silly foamings-at-the-mouth, I can consider the source and quickly move on.

Here's one....."You people make me sick." You are a sore on America's ass, the type that needs to be cleansed.

I also see you think of youself as a "Christain." Better think again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 08/16/2008
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Hilarious. I didn't even take the time to click on your profile (not worth my time) but already know you are a weak minded lemming who will believe any fodder that is thrown at your by your elite leadership. Your a joke, and your response made my day...too easy to fire up the sheep - and a blast -lol. Oh, and I didn't realize that you were in charge of "Christian" membership cards...funny as hell, you trying to judge others - like you have an ounce of authority. Get a grip clown.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 08/16/2008

hmmmmm

Global warming.

Dead seas.

oh well

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 PM on 08/15/2008
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Oh well LIKE HELL.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 08/16/2008
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