Georgia leader signs truce, but will Russia leave?

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MATTHEW LEE and ANNE GEARAN | August 15, 2008 10:41 PM EST | AP

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Russian soldiers block a road in Gori, northwest of the capital Tbilisi, Georgia, Friday, Aug. 15, 2008. Russian troops on Friday allowed some humanitarian supplies into the city of Gori but continued their blockade of the strategically located city. (AP Photo/Mikhail Metzel)

TBILISI, Georgia — Georgia's president grudgingly signed a truce with Russia Friday, even as he denounced the Russians as invading barbarians and accused the West of all but encouraging them to overrun his country. A stone-faced Condoleezza Rice, standing alongside, said Russian troops must withdraw immediately from their smaller neighbor.

President Bush talked tough, too, accusing the Russians of "bullying and intimidation," but neither he nor Rice said what the U.S. might do if Russia ignored them.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev's press office had no information Friday night on whether he had signed the cease-fire agreement. Russia's foreign minister assured Rice later that his country would implement the deal "faithfully," a U.S. official said. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Rice's conversation was private, said Russia was likely to sign the deal Saturday.

As the secretary of state spoke in Tbilisi, Russian forces remained camped out just 25 miles away.

Associated Press reporters had seen a convoy of some 50 Russian army trucks and armored personnel carriers roar without warning southeast from the city of Gori on Wednesday, some shouting they were heading to Tbilisi, the Georgian capital. But they veered into a field outside the town of Igoeti and set up camp conspicuously within sight of the road. The Russians were still visible there Friday.

Even as Rice stood with Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili in a show of solidarity, he asked, "Who invited the trouble here? Who invited this arrogance here? Who invited these innocent deaths here?"

Shaky and near tears following a difficult, nearly five-hour meeting with her, Saakashvili answered his own question: "Not only those people who perpetrate them are responsible, but also those people who failed to stop it."

Rice let that pass, focusing instead on the demand that Moscow immediately withdraw its forces.

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"With this signature by Georgia, this must take place and take place now," she declared.

There was no immediate clue to the Russians' intentions a week after their tanks and bombers attacked Georgia in retaliation for Georgia's attempt to retake a disputed province by force.

Russian troops allowed some humanitarian supplies into the strategic city of Gori but otherwise continued their blockade.

The cease-fire document sets out no specific penalties or deadlines. It contains concessions to Russia that Saakashvili obviously found hard to swallow. Russia could retain peacekeeping forces in the separatist region of South Ossetia and another breakaway region, Abkhazia, and the forces would have a broader mandate in South Ossetia.

Even if Russia fully complies with the cease-fire, the Bush administration says there will be more consequences to come. Bush's advisers are settling on penalties that would be intentionally modest and subtle, such as continuing to exclude Russia's foreign minister from discussions among his counterparts in elite gatherings of the world's leading economies.

The idea is to give Moscow the diplomatic cold shoulder while offering face-saving leeway for Russia to turn away from a mentality the West sees as throwback to its empire days. Russia would then have motivation, and some wiggle room, to seek inclusion in Western economic, political and security institutions.

In Washington, Bush accused Russia of resorting to thuggery from another era. He insisted the United States will not abandon Georgia, a Western-leaning democracy on Russia's southern flank and once part of the old Soviet Union.

"Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century," Bush said. "Only Russia can decide whether it will now put itself back on the path of responsible nations or continue to pursue a policy that promises only confrontation and isolation."

Russian withdrawal from Gori, in the center of Georgia proper, would be a major sign that Russia is not trying to hold permanent sway in Georgia or topple its enthusiastically pro-American government. By holding Gori, Russia holds the small country's only major east-west highway and effectively slices Georgia in half.

The peace pact was worked out earlier in the week by French President Nicolas Sarkozy and both sides had said they agreed to it.

Russian forces remained, however, and U.S. officials said the document would take effect once it was formally signed Friday. It tells both sides to pull their forces back to the positions they held before fighting broke out last week in South Ossetia.

Saakashvili's tirade and the forceful words from Bush in Washington suggested that a week into the crisis, both leaders were reassessing how they got here.

"We will rebuild," Saakashvili said. "We want them out. I want the world to know, never, ever will Georgia reconcile with occupation of even one square kilometer of its sovereign territory. Never, ever."

His leadership is founded on a close alliance with Washington that has always exasperated Moscow.

Bush gave his most sustained explanation of U.S. action during the crisis, saying the conflict is about much more than a small country far away. Bush made clear the real fight is about the power and ambition of nuclear-armed Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union and Russia's resurgence as an energy dynamo.

"The Cold War is over. The days of satellite states and spheres of influence are behind us," Bush said at the White House, before a vacation delayed by the crisis. "A contentious relationship with Russia is not in America's interest, and a contentious relationship with America is not in Russia's interest."

Rice said the time had come "to begin a discussion of the consequences of what Russia has done. This calls into question what role Russia really plans to play in international politics."

Rice was flying to Texas, where she was to give Bush a firsthand account of her diplomatic mission.

Apparently concerned that her awkward news conference with Saakashvili had set the wrong tone, Rice spoke briefly on her own before leaving Georgia.

"It's obviously a very emotional time here in Georgia," she said after visiting wounded people in a hospital.

"It's clearly a very emotional time, but I think that it should still be seen that this was a productive day. I hope now that peace can return to Georgia and Georgians can return to a normal life."

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Gearan reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Terence Hunt and Jennifer Loven also contributed to this report from Washington.

TBILISI, Georgia — Georgia's president grudgingly signed a truce with Russia Friday, even as he denounced the Russians as invading barbarians and accused the West of all but encouraging them to ...
TBILISI, Georgia — Georgia's president grudgingly signed a truce with Russia Friday, even as he denounced the Russians as invading barbarians and accused the West of all but encouraging them to ...
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Queen of Violets writes:

"Shaky and near tears following a difficult, nearly five-hour meeting with her, Saakashvili answered his own question:"

Five hours with Condi? A cordial meeting of allies? Or a bar room brawl? Georgia's president does not suffer criticism well. He has publicly abused America for its weakness in his hour of need. Advice to him appears to be taken as though it is beneath his monarchical dignity to acknowledge it. Conversely, I imagine he is perceived as immature and obtuse.

Others have noted that this is not the first time State Department officials have visited the student Prince to remind him that he is a mouse, not lion, on the world stage. The extent to which Saakashvili was deemed a loose cannon is just beginning to come out of Washington. It is doubtful this news is breaking accidentally.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/255/story/47631.html

The video of him running too fast for his bodyguards to keep up is of a man who perceives risk only when he sees a sky full of bombs, or Condi breaking him down..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 AM on 08/17/2008

this you will not be shown on your tv: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpbtWR7dkYY&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 AM on 08/17/2008
- randyjet I'm a Fan of randyjet 25 fans permalink

The days of satellite states and spheres of influence are behind us," Bush

That is not what most of the neo-cons are saying. They all think that it will be a blow to America if we lose Georgia. Of course, this flies in the face of what Bush said. Think Bush will disavow the Monroe Doctrine, or stop trying to overthrow Chavez? Too bad Bush doesn't believe his own BS. It is even worse when there are people who are stupid enough to fall for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 08/16/2008
- mnkors I'm a Fan of mnkors 5 fans permalink

My condolences to S. Ossetians, Russians, and Georgians who became crippled and who have lost their relatives and friends in this man-made disaster
The Georgian army, trained and armed by Americans and Israelis, was engaged in mass killing of civilian population on the order of a madman Saakashvilli, a former New York lawyer who had lost his mind to the grandiose illusion. Rice and Cheney’s bloody fingerprints are everywhere.
The Western mass media has been behaving in a despicable manner misnaming the invasion. But what should we all expect from the media conglomerates and the purchased talking heads?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 08/16/2008

Fair and balanced as usual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8XI2Chc6uQ

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 08/16/2008

In a collective "bitch slap" to the Bush Administration and McCain campaign, Vladimir just was quoted as saying "we may stay in Georgia for 100 years". He also said that similar to Iranan interference in Iraq, Poland and Ukraine have been helping Georgia and that this is of major concern. He must have taken Bush's play book while George was busy looking at his "lovely" blue eyes.

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 08/16/2008
- roselaw I'm a Fan of roselaw 10 fans permalink



The US and Israel have been selling/supplying and training Georgia in the use of up to date military weapons and tactics for years. Beginning on July 18th, Georgia and over 1,000 US marines spent TWO WEEKS in military exercises, called "Immediate Response 2008". (See Pepe Escobar at Real News)

Yet, the US claims it was surprised when, after declaring a "truce" with Russia following days of tit for tat skirmises, in early August, Georgia launched a violent night time assault on Ossetia's capital, using its new US/Israeli "toys."

Georgia got its "immediate response," which was to get its ass kicked. Russia is now removing or destroying Georgia's fancy new weapons, and no doubt gathering useful intelligence, from military bases in Georgia. Truce or no, Russia will not end these activities until it has disarmed Georgia, and gathered information on US/Israeli meddling in the Caucasus.

Its quite clear Georgia believed the US would come to its rescue. Both Georgia and the US are led by reckless fools. Bush has not given up on military solutions to political problems. He green-lighted Israel's hugely disproportionate attack on Lebanon, and supported a plot to overthrow Hamas using Fatah fighters, two other, similarly disasterous adventures.

In a 11/06 referendum, Ossetians voted on the order of 90+ percent to join with North Ossetia, which sounds something like the "freedom" "democracy" and "self determination" we ought to recognize, as we did in Kosovo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 08/16/2008

OF COURSE RUSSIA will not leave as per the Rice patty just signed---they will stay till the Olympics are over and the righteous wrath cools. Then they will act from their "base" which is allowed to make
sure that Georgia does with its oil and its pipe-lines exactly what Russian wants for those items.
Then we clash of course with Mr.Cheney and his Ilk---meaning "kind"--and then on to Phase III.
We can't invade Russia, but we can make life dreadfully different for them "at the bank" and in sales--
but then, so can they.
If the GOP goes, there will be peace in Georgian because at least as a nation we will not be interested in making other nations our puppets---Cheney and Halliburton can arrange their own
armies and ventures to secure what has to be the most important pipeline in human history apart from the Nile for the Egyptians. And their Cheney's all failed. J.Gorman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 08/16/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 217 fans permalink
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My God, the photo of the president of Georgia that is on the Politics page, would scare the life out of the devil himself. What is the matter with him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 08/16/2008

He is insane. He has been drinking the Kool Aid of the Bushies. They pumped him up with their David vs. Goliath dribble. They will leav him out to dry when they are done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 08/16/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 217 fans permalink
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He is so terrifying in appearance I wonder Russia had the courage to invade.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 08/16/2008

"Shaky and near tears following a difficult, nearly five-hour meeting with her, Saakashvili answered his own question:"

The guy seems a bit emotionally unbalanced.

It's funny but I feel like Condi Rice is the only sane person on the ground there. If she put him through a five hour meeting and he came out shaky and near tears, then she must have confronted him with the fact that he started the military action and his troops committed the first civilian casualties.

I wish this crisis could be resolved democratically by allowing the people in these separatist regions to determine their own futures in some internationally supervised referendum.

However I think that's probably way more freedom and democracy than Saakashvili is prepared to accept.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 08/16/2008
- OfficialA I'm a Fan of OfficialA 4 fans permalink

If the story is about the leader of Georgia, why the photo of Andy Kaufman? What? Oh...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 08/16/2008
- vaho I'm a Fan of vaho permalink

When thinking of the president of Georgia I’m reminded of the saying “better a wise enemy than a stupid friend”. Indeed, according to The New York Times Rice, on her last visit to Georgia, had warned him not to provoke Russia, but it seems the US educated president does not understand English.
Since South Ossetia’s and Abkhazia’s have Russian nationality, Russia, like any other state, has the right to defend its nationals both at home and abroad.
Now these regions “will never, ever be” a part of Georgia. After Kosovo this may be another victory for the principle of self determination in the battle against the principle of territorial integrity. Other victories will follow.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 AM on 08/16/2008
- ltyr2002 I'm a Fan of ltyr2002 11 fans permalink

Maybe Bush, Obama and McCain are ALL wrong.
Maybe this Georgian president, acting on vague encouragement from Condi & Co. thought we would back him right into hell against the Russians. What a dumb man!

Maybe we shouldn't mess in Russia's back yard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 AM on 08/16/2008


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5idQm8YyJs4

Some say that the view count is blocked for this video.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 08/16/2008

Good post..............I emailed it to CNN, Fox News, BBC etc.

Keep asking them to report the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 08/16/2008

Time to wage war on the US MSM and get them to start reporting the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 08/16/2008

I'll be there in a week and I going find out what's really going on, sure hope this isn't a manufactured conflict by the Republicans or the McCain Camp!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 AM on 08/16/2008

No hair product in the aid package? Bad war day and bad hair day?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 AM on 08/16/2008
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LOL. Desperate hair on a desperate man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 08/16/2008
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Russia needs China and Europe much more than it needs the USA (except that it needs USA to continue to lower dollar value and raise oil price...USA has been quite helpful to Russia lately).

China is Russia's cashcow right now. Russia also imports 40% of its food supply. It can not afford NOT to sell oil and gas. The real blow on Russia would be if dollar would go up in value and oil price comes down, Russia would then suffer economically and it might take very dramatic and dangerous approach to deal with international matters.

Russia does not seem to be in a strong position. But the problem is that US is in no position to threaten anyone effectively either. Georgia made a big mistake by choosing the wrong time (election year in the US) to act. US has no money, no soldiers, no political resources (election year again) to fight another war. This is the only leverage Russia has right now.

How long will that leverage last? The key for the US is really to have skillful diplomacy together with Europe and China to keep Russia's sanity check so that it does not feel cornered and act irresponsibly to the extent that it would be committing political suicide effectively (with heavy international casualties).

It will take a strong and smart USA president plus a willing Europe and China.

From:

http://www.chinationreport.com your daily balanced news about China

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 AM on 08/16/2008
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-"It will take a strong and smart USA president plus a willing Europe and China."-

That would be Obama! Hopefully things don't deteriorate irreparably from now until January, when he takes office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 08/16/2008
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