McCain Camp: Obama Too Extreme And Too Moderate On Taxes

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First Posted: 08-15-08 09:28 AM   |   Updated: 09-15-08 05:12 AM

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The Republicans' line of attack against Barack Obama is obvious today: taxes.

But exactly what kind of attack they mean to mount against the Illinois Democrat on the issue is less clear. Is he a shifty poll-watcher who moderates his positions in order to reflect the public's will, or a radical bent on taxing poor families into the dirt no matter what?

Reporters could see evidence of each attack, which taken in tandem appear contradictory, in their inboxes Friday morning.

First, Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant sent reporters a few press clippings with the subject line "Obama's Shifting Tax Rhetoric." The "shifts" in question were all moderate in nature. Conant's email quoted U.S News and World Report's analysis that Obama is "changing his plan because the polls are close and the issue was hurting him." The email goes on to cite several claims that Obama's new details on tax policy are studiously arranged so as not to affect investment earnings or payroll taxes for middle class Americans.

Conant also cited the Tax Foundation's Robert Carroll, who says that Obama's proposed 20 percent rate on capital gains and dividends "is below the 25 percent and 28 percent that have previously been reported." (Those previous reports may have been faulty, since Obama's camp merely said that 28 percent was the highest they would ever consider going.)

The Tax Policy Center also hit Obama for electing to delay enactment of his proposed Social Security plan (which involves raising the payroll cap on high earners) for ten years, another lower-tax move in the short run. Finally, a strategist at BMO Capital reacted to yesterday's Wall Street Journal op-ed by two Obama advisers as representing "a path that Obama's taking which takes him back more towards the middle," and closer to McCain.

All of which is fair enough, as far as it goes. Obama did make news by coming out with a less aggressive tax plan than earlier hints may have led experts to expect. But then how to explain the latest ad to come out of McCain's media shop, which was announced approximately 45 minutes after Conant's email went out? Entitled "Taxman," it portrays Obama as a ruthless tax-raiser who endangers a pair of middle class parents, crunching numbers while grasping their children.

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The McCain campaign's "fact sheet" for the ad cites mainly months-old media reports examining Obama's thinking on taxes at the time, some of which are in direct contradiction with the news made yesterday -- that is to say, Obama's less-sweeping "moderate" or "centrist" moves.

McCain wants it both ways on Obama's tax plan. Let's see if the press lets him have his way, or if they demand that Republicans choose an intellectually consistent line of attack.

Script For "Taxman" (TV :30)

ANNCR: Celebrity? Yes. Ready to lead? No.


Obama's new taxes could break your family budget.

The press warns the "taxman cometh".

Obama's taxes mean "higher prices at the pump".

Obama's taxes a "recipe for economic disaster".

Higher taxes. Higher gas prices. Economic disaster.

That's the real Obama.

JOHN MCCAIN: I'm John McCain and I approved this message.

UPDATE: The Obama campaign has issued a response to "Taxman" with a response and a new web video.

"This ad is just more of the same old false and discredited attacks that Senator McCain knows aren't true. Senator McCain will say or do anything to hide the truth: while Obama will cut taxes for the middle class, McCain will give a billion dollars in new tax breaks to America's eight largest corporations, while his plan provides no direct relief for more than 100 million American Families. And despite his rhetoric, he's refusing to support the bipartisan Senate proposal to expand production and invest in renewable energy because he wants to protect tax breaks for oil companies. We've seen what happens when we put the oil companies and their lobbyists ahead of working families, and that's exactly what Americans want to change in this election," said Obama campaign spokesman Hari Sevugan.

Here's the "fact check" web video:

The Republicans' line of attack against Barack Obama is obvious today: taxes. But exactly what kind of attack they mean to mount against the Illinois Democrat on the issue is less clear. Is he a shif...
The Republicans' line of attack against Barack Obama is obvious today: taxes. But exactly what kind of attack they mean to mount against the Illinois Democrat on the issue is less clear. Is he a shif...
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How long before we see him with a beer bottle in his hand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 08/15/2008
- loax I'm a Fan of loax 20 fans permalink

Bull**it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 08/15/2008

"recipe for economic disaster"

I guess George Bush is Master Chef Ramsey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 08/15/2008

He's trying to defend an administration and its policies that helped rack up a 9 trillion dollar deficit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 08/15/2008
- vonny I'm a Fan of vonny 2 fans permalink

Wow what a good add! Thank you JM for telling the truth about BO's tax increases.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 08/15/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

As usual, you wouldn't know the truth if it broke a 2x4 over your dome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 08/15/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

So you are better of today than you were 8 years ago?

What state are you in?
No downturn in housing?
No national guard or military in Iraq?
No job loses in your world?
Economic wealth has increased?
You making more that 250K? Otherwise nothing to fear about Obama Tax

Mc is selling fear and I see you still have enough in your wallet to invest in shipping jobs off shore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 08/15/2008
- M4DN3SS I'm a Fan of M4DN3SS 3 fans permalink

Enjoying your bliss?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 08/15/2008

LOL you're so delusional, it's hilarious.

"Wow!" LMAO!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 08/15/2008
- karela I'm a Fan of karela 86 fans permalink

Brad Delong/Economist/UC Berkley

1946-1976
per capita national income up 90%
average income bottom 90% of Americans rose 83%
average income top 1% of Americans rose 20%

1976-2006
per capita national income rose 64%
average income of bottom 90% of Americans rose 10%
average income of top 1% of Americans rose 232%

These are the gifts of the predominantly republican leadership over the past thirty years, especially under W. Under current loop holes made possible by lobbyist payments to the campaign funds of elected officials, two thirds of all U.S. corporations paid no taxes last year. Obama voted to end the Bush tax exemptions while at the same time making plans to bring tax relief to poor and middle class Americans. The Obama plan provides absolutely no tax increases of any kind whatsoever, including investment earnings, for any family making less than $250,000 per year. 95% of all Americans make less than $250,000 per year. The top 1% of Americans have a collective wealth of $19 trillion dollars. The other 99% of Americans have a collective wealth of $17 trillion dollars. Obama is trying to re-balance the playing field to give ordinary Americans a chance to prosper again. The top 1% got the 232% pay raise since 1976. If the rest of us had gotten that raise, we wouldn't any need help to afford our homes, health insurance or an education for our kids. McCain=Champion of the top 1%. Obama=Friend to the Rest of Us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 08/15/2008
- ranchosx I'm a Fan of ranchosx 4 fans permalink

this is also a pack of lies.

Mc Cain wants to tax employer provided health insurance which would cost the average family 3k per year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 08/15/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

When to the DR yester and the meds were $35 for kid's antibiotics. I can imagine that persons that have continual medical care issues and no job so no "tax employer " option are ok with paying 3k per year?

Yester NPR had story where seniors are leaving on credit to afford daily needs, eventually file bankruptcy leading to skipping meals, meds and homelessness they are lucky to get 3k a year so what do you and daddy war bucks have in mind for them?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 08/15/2008
- SoCalNick I'm a Fan of SoCalNick 84 fans permalink
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LOL Higher Gas prices LOLOLOL Gas have fallen for the last 39 days in a row, funny right AFTER Obama and the DEMS launched investigation into the manipulation of oil prices. The OIL White house and their war has had NOTHING to do with Gas prices LOL.... MAN If it were not so funny it would be sad. Sadder still is the fact that because of our GOP Bankrupted educational system there aren't enough people around smart enough to understand this whole scam they are running

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 08/15/2008
- vonny I'm a Fan of vonny 2 fans permalink

Gas prices fell after they started talking about drilling. WE know that the mid east. oil biggys don't want us to drill forour own oil!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 08/15/2008
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Any oil produced in the US is sold on the open world market.
It doesn't stay in the US.

The price of a barrel of oil dropped because the demand lessened and because the speculators knew the high price wasn't sustainable.

Why do you insist on displaying your intellectual shortcomings for all to see?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 08/15/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

Is that why prices rose by 20 cents when he started talking about the "tax holiday"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 PM on 08/15/2008
- Daly I'm a Fan of Daly 19 fans permalink

Talking about drilling might make your comfortable however, people in the real world know that this talk is for a payoff in 10 years. It would take at least that long to get the oil they think is avail. 10 years. McDonalds has no idea how much their big mac will cost in 10 years.

10 years is a very long time in the would of fuel.

10 years and that is best case

10 years!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 08/15/2008
- Gericault I'm a Fan of Gericault 10 fans permalink
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Exactly. Funny how no one remembers the reason for the last big spike in gas prices.

The question was ,"why when Americans are driving less are the prices still rising"?. At the time we had a glut of gasoline on the market but we were just about to start the summer driving season.
The answer was "the possibility of political unrest in Nigeria were keeping the prices inflated ".

Now we are actually having armed conflict between two major players in the european oil market and no fluctuation. Prices drop.

We are such a bunch of ignorant fools.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 08/15/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 227 fans permalink

Also, Bush started to implement O'bama's plans, like talking to Iran.

Not threatening war against one of the most oil rich countries does wonders for the price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 08/15/2008

Is he Ready to Lead? Yes he can Lead Anger Managment. Does he know about the housing market? Yes he does 10 homes worth 36.6 milli & he help cause the housing crumble the Economy is one of His greatest qualities. NOT "He said he does not know about the Economy but he read a few good books." This is the same guy whose Economical adviser call Americans "A Nation of WHINERS" NO WAY JOHN. NOT FIT TO LEAD.


OBAMA THE JUDGEMENT TO LEAD CHANGE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 08/15/2008
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Maverick no more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 08/15/2008
- Faye12 I'm a Fan of Faye12 3 fans permalink

Where is Obama's real birth certificate. I just got an email that the one on his website is fake. Is this true? Why won't he show us his real one?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 08/15/2008

So off topic and soooooo stupid. I guess you went to the Bureau of Vital Statistics and got the bc. If you take your meds correctly, you will be able to distinguish fantasy from reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 08/15/2008
- Egalitare I'm a Fan of Egalitare 6 fans permalink
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Apparently, I'm not on the "right" lists to get these kinds of e-mail.

Would someone please post what is thougt to be fake about his birth cert? Is the contention that he was born in Hawaii before it became a state? Or that he was not born in Hawaii at all? Or something entirely different?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 08/15/2008
- DaOne I'm a Fan of DaOne 45 fans permalink
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Idiot, please do not reproduce. Leave the gene pool immediately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 08/15/2008

Obviously this is not true or else he would not be running. I would call you pathetic but everyone has a right to their opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 08/15/2008
- RaraAvis17 I'm a Fan of RaraAvis17 7 fans permalink

I take it the stands for your age or I.Q.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 08/15/2008
- firewmn I'm a Fan of firewmn 62 fans permalink
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McCain is more of BUSH..

McCain is a BUSH THIRD Term..

No MORE McBUSH..

These ads are so yesterday.­..and he gets me soo annoyed with the same old washington ads..!

aaarrrgggh­hh..!

Obama 2008, 2012

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 08/15/2008
- bwither I'm a Fan of bwither 53 fans permalink

Gee, what an original ad by a republican. . .

Quick822 wrote
"It will be interested when Obama and McCain have their first debate, and Obama challenges him on the claims that he will raise taxes and all that crap, and McCain can't answer."

A few reporters and news programs have questioned him on this and McCain usually poo-poo's them away by saying something like, "you ned to go back and get your information straight."

Won't be able to pull that one in a face-to-face.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 AM on 08/15/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 124 fans permalink
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Man, their first debate will garner better viewership than opening night of the NFL. heh heh heh

...I can't wait, I hope McCain doesn't go into cardiac arrest or something, because he will become increasingly frustrated by Barack's calm demeanor, and factual approach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 08/15/2008
- cmp I'm a Fan of cmp 3 fans permalink

I'm with you.......­..........­....can't wait !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 08/16/2008
- JJeff88 I'm a Fan of JJeff88 22 fans permalink

All of which is to deflect attention from the more important economic issue of the campaign:

McCain's tax plan.

Which, as I understand it, continues Bush's tax cuts for the richest 5%. Gives billions in tax breaks to Big Oil. Wants to cut Medicare benefits and privatize Social Security.

The dumbest bit of fiction perpetrated by traditional media is that "we know all we need to know about John McCain/, but we need to know more about Sen. Obama."

Actually, we need to know a lot more about John McCain - who after the more voodoo-like aspects of his so-called "economic plan" were initially brought to light and challenged (most notably, "psychological recession") - he's never answered his critics and the media hasn't followed up to make him accountable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 08/15/2008
- JJ30 I'm a Fan of JJ30 3 fans permalink

Here we go again...Mo­re attack ads and less spending time talking about how himself will raise taxes and sink America into more debt. Obama...ec­onomic disaster????? Nah, McCain is a disaster PERIOD!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 08/15/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

BARACK..

get home... and get control of your campaign again.

i can tell you.. from personal experience­... its not the same campaign that you had in the primaries. and THAT is not a good thing. its out of touch and there its starting to have all the infighting and power grabbing that camps who fail have. and i think you are now in "the bubble" and don't know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 08/15/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 124 fans permalink
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What the f*ck are you talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 08/15/2008
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I've seen nor read ANY NEWS about infighting in the Obama camp -- state your sources

2. A primary campaign is much different than a general election campaign -- if you run the same campaign you will probably loose

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 08/15/2008
- MelDel7365 I'm a Fan of MelDel7365 19 fans permalink

First - Are people actually falling for that ridiculous celebrity line? To me, it sounds like a jealous old man hurling 3rd grade insults at his better qualified and more popular opponent.

...And most of those claims about Obama's tax plan have been soundly debunked..­.but the media will probably let "Donuts with sprinkles" McCain slide again - they always do...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 08/15/2008
- PAposter I'm a Fan of PAposter 124 fans permalink
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Furthermore, what's wrong with being a celebrity or famous for whatever reason? Isn't the alternative indifference and infamy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 08/15/2008
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