China Takes Away Bibles From American Christians

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GILLIAN WONG | August 17, 2008 10:02 PM EST | AP

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BEIJING — A group of American Christians who had more than 300 Bibles confiscated by Chinese officials when they arrived in China is refusing to leave the airport until they get the books back, their leader said Monday.

Pat Klein said he and three others from his Vision Beyond Borders group spent Sunday night at the airport in the southwestern city of Kunming after customs officers took the Bibles from their checked luggage.

"I heard that there's freedom of religion in China, so why is there a problem for us to bring Bibles?" said Klein, whose Sheridan, Wyoming-based group distributes Bibles and Christian teaching materials around the world.

The Bibles were printed in Chinese, he told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

The move comes as China hosts the Olympics in Beijing, where false media reports last year claimed Bibles would be banned from the games. The state-run China Daily reported last month that 10,000 bilingual copies of the Bible would be distributed in the Olympic Village, which houses athletes and media.

In China, Bibles are printed under the supervision of the Communist government. The officially atheistic country allows them to be used only in government-sanctioned churches and in some big hotels catering to foreigners.

A woman on duty at Kunming airport's customs office confirmed over the telephone late Sunday that 315 Bibles were found in the passengers' checked baggage.

The officer, who would only give her last name, Xiao, denied confiscating the Bibles. She said authorities were just "taking care" of them and provided no further details. She later said she was not authorized to speak to the media and referred questions to the national customs headquarters in Beijing, which did not answer phones on Sunday.

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On Monday morning, Klein said Chinese officials had shown the group what they said were laws that banned bringing Bibles into China, but that the documents were in Chinese. "We are waiting for them to come back with the law in English," he said.

Chinese officials had asked the Christians to leave the room at the airport where they spent the night, but Klein told the officials they did not want to go without the Bibles.

Klein said the customs officers had told him that they could each have one Bible for personal use, but no more than that. He said the officers had videotaped them and were insisting that they leave the airport.

"We don't want to go without taking those books. It cost us a lot of money to bring them here," Klein said. "They're saying that it's illegal to bring the Bibles in and that if we wanted to, we had to apply ahead of time for permission."

China faces routine criticism for human rights violations and repression of religious freedom. Religious practice is heavily regulated by the Communist Party, with worship allowed only in party-controlled churches, temples and mosques, while those gathering outside risk harassment, arrest and terms in labor camps or prison.

A Chinese Christian activist was detained Aug. 10, the opening weekend of the Olympics, on his way to a church service attended by U.S. President George W. Bush in Beijing. A rights group said later that the activist, Hua Huiqi, a leader of the unofficial Protestant church in Beijing, had escaped from police and was in hiding.

Police have denied any involvement in Hua's disappearance.

BEIJING — A group of American Christians who had more than 300 Bibles confiscated by Chinese officials when they arrived in China is refusing to leave the airport until they get the books back, ...
BEIJING — A group of American Christians who had more than 300 Bibles confiscated by Chinese officials when they arrived in China is refusing to leave the airport until they get the books back, ...
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Is anyone going to hold China to account on the promises it made that hosting the Olympics would improve human rights in China?

China’s officials must let people practice whatever religion or spiritual practice they choose. Just like they must let journalists go about their business without censorship, and let peaceful human rights defenders campaign on whatever issues they like, and just like they must let ethnic minorities to express their culture.

http://uncensor.com.au/uncensor/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 08/19/2008
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FoxNews: An American pastor checked into upscale hotels in the Olympics host city this week, filmed himself painting two of his rooms with slogans like "Beijing 2008 Our world Our nightmare" and then disappeared. Without paying.

Eddie Romero's unusual protest, now making the rounds on YouTube, shows foreigners can still sneak through the tight security measures China imposed to keep potential troublemakers away from the games, which start Friday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,399701,00.html

Isn't he an insult to America?
http://www.chinationreport.com/#EditorsChoice

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 08/18/2008

Go, China!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 08/18/2008
- tlgeiger62 I'm a Fan of tlgeiger62 60 fans permalink
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So now they're just hanging out at the airport waiting for a translator? What a drag!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 08/18/2008
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"I heard that there's freedom of religion in China, so why is there a problem for us to bring Bibles?"

Imagine if a group of Muslims started to freely distribute Korans written in English in the middle of the buybull belt. How long would they last before getting lynched to death?

Religion is a mental disease. Any government that tries to protect the weakest of mind from the greed of snake-oil peddlers has my approval.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 08/18/2008
- mh01 I'm a Fan of mh01 26 fans permalink

Wow, how are we going to care for the 90% of the earths population that has a mental disease (believes in some kind of religion?)

I am going to buy stock in drug companies, once it gets out that only 10% of the worlds population DOESN'T have a mental disease, there will be a lot of lithium, ritalin etc. to be sold!!!

If you like governments that stifle free religion, might I suggest China or North Korea for your permanent vacation, i'm sure they will meet with your approval..­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 08/18/2008

China alone makes up about 20% of the world population and we all know that most Chinese are atheists or agnostic. So I wonder which great pollster figured that 90% of the world are religious?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 08/18/2008
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Now, why would anyone be surprised that a far left American would admire a far left dictatorship like China? Do you swoon every time you see a picture of Stalin? How about Castro? Do you feel all warm and helpless when you hear him speak?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 08/19/2008
- paixa3 I'm a Fan of paixa3 23 fans permalink

There is NO BETTER way to wake up ""merka"" than to take their bibles, NONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 08/18/2008
- Jared137 I'm a Fan of Jared137 3 fans permalink

Hey China, here is some of the Godliness you have to look forward to:

"Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces"

Now those are words of wisdom!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 08/18/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 53 fans permalink

The NON denominational protestant christian church is growing and the churches very often are big and full. They also have semanaries of their own. We need to keep our hands off. The president of one of those semanaries did say "Americans do harm when they smuggle Bibles into China like spies, we do not need James Bond for Jesus here, anybody can buy a Bible". They also spread the Word in their own way.
I posted this at the beginning but it is worth repeating: Smuggling Bibles into China HURTS the Christian movement in China. Millions of Bibles are printed in Nanjing by the Amity Printing Co. Any Chinese person who wants to buy a Bible CAN. And the movement is growing. So far they have kept out the predatory fundamentalists who I guess, go underground. The Christian churches are non denominational and most Christians would recognize the hymns and the Bible verses. They follow a regular service format like most Christians here. It is bible oriented and not what you see with some that aren't, in this country. So before you go off half cocked about bibles being confiscated, just remember you are in another country who has their own set up, allows Bibles to be printed and sold and obtained and kept. This business of smuggling seems to be for the people doing it. Do they feel more righteous or what? And truly, it does hurt the Chinese Christian people to do this. Americans.­..get a grip.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 08/18/2008
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How dare you impinge on our right to react emotionally to headlines!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/18/2008
- Mort I'm a Fan of Mort 38 fans permalink
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No, there isn't freedom of religion in China. But the way to change that doesn't include breaking the law and sneaking in "subversive" materials. That only makes it worse and strengthens their resolve. Now that Hong Kong is back under their control, there are a few churches there that the Chinese have allowed to stay, but there are strict rules about not spreading into China itself. Eventually it'll happen. Not through subterfuge, but through friendshipping, service and longsuffering patience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 08/18/2008

People like to complain about religious freedom in China but did they know that almost ALL newly printed bibles are made in China? One single Nanjing factor alone is expected to produce some 25% of all bibles produced in the world for 2009.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 AM on 08/18/2008
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Amity Printing Co..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 08/18/2008
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Imagine for a moment that the items confiscated weren't 300 copies of the Bible rather that they were 300 copies of, let's say, The Joy of Cooking. Not only would this not be a news story, nearly all would understand the concept that countries have different customs laws. This could be a matter of precisely that.

However, given that it wasn't the Joy of Cooking and was indeed a book representative of a particular religion and given that China has a past history of religious suppression, many will jump to the conclusion (rightly of wrongly) that this was a deliberate and concerted effort to prevent religious worship.

I'm inclined to wait for more information before rushing to judgement, but if this was a case of religious suppression, shame on them. I'm an atheist and I think it is important for us to allow individuals to choose for them self whether to accept or reject religion. It is a deeply personal decision and government has absolutely NO place in the regulation of that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 08/18/2008
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 30 fans permalink

I have no use for organized religion, and don't believe the bible is the "word of god". But if someone wants to import religious books into this country, they could and they do. To defend this is hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 08/18/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 579 fans permalink
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You can IMPORT bibles into China. You cannot SMUGGLE bibles into China. Can you see the difference? And can you imagine a group of Muslims trying to freely distribute Korans in West Virginia?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 08/18/2008
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No religion? Sounds like paradise to me. I have yet to meet meet a true believer (read religious nutjob) that wasn't baser evil, virulently bigoted, intolerant and an overall pushy, selfserving boor. I say you go China, maybe you will escape the downfall of the West and Middle-east afterall and become the powerhouse you are destined to become. Now can You also work on some of the other freedoms froms to

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 08/18/2008

So why not move you a$$ to China?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 08/18/2008
- jaschrod I'm a Fan of jaschrod 21 fans permalink

Can't afford to, because I am paying property tax on my property that would be much lower if the churches would pay their fair share on their million dollar churches. I get a kick out of the churches stating how they want to help the poor, and yet stick it to the working people by not paying property tax. I do not know one solitary person that calls themselves christian, that are not hypocrites. Just this week end I was following a woman, and on her bumper was a bumper sticker that stated that she was a thinker , and that was why she was pro life. As I followed her she was speeding through town, and ended up turning into a church. All this way she did not think about the life she could have taken by speeding through town.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 08/18/2008

Preach on!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 08/18/2008
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Smuggling?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 08/18/2008
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Qur'an is the present preferred phonetic spelling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 AM on 08/18/2008
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