US, allies contemplating action against Russia

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DEB RIECHMANN | August 17, 2008 11:59 PM EST | AP

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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice returns to her motorcade after appearing on the Sunday morning television talk shows to discuss the crisis in Georgia, Sunday, Aug. 17, 2008, in Crawford, Texas. President Bush warned Russia on Saturday against trying to pry loose two separatist regions in Georgia and said Moscow must end military operations in the West-leaning democracy that once was part of the Soviet empire. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

CRAWFORD, Texas — The United States on Sunday accused Russia of stalling its military pullback in Georgia, but the Bush administration is not rushing to repudiate Moscow for its actions.

The White House is struggling to figure out the best way to penalize Russia. It doesn't want to deeply damage existing cooperation on many fronts or discourage Moscow from further integrating itself into global economic and political institutions. At the same time, U.S. officials say Russia can't be allowed to get away with invading its neighbor.

Fighting broke out after Georgia launched a massive barrage Aug. 7 to try to take control of the separatist province of South Ossetia, which is heavily influenced by Russia. The Russian army quickly overwhelmed Georgia's forces, then drove deep into the country, bombed Georgian ports and military installations and tied up an east-west highway through the nation.

The New York Times, citing anonymous U.S. officials who were familiar with intelligence reports, reported Sunday that the Russian military moved missile launchers into South Ossetia on Friday.

The U.S. officials told the Times that Russia deployed several SS-21 missile launchers to positions north of Tskhinvali, the South Ossetian capital. That would put the missiles within range of Georgia's capital, Tbilisi, the Times reported on its Web site.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who briefed President Bush on the fast-changing crisis over the weekend at his Texas ranch, said, "There's no doubt there will be further consequences" to Russia.

She returned to Washington on Sunday and is flying to Brussels, Belgium, on Monday to talk with NATO allies about what message the West should send to Russia.

Rice is then flying to Warsaw, Poland, where she will sign a formal agreement with Poland for the establishment of a missile interceptor site there. Moscow has protested the U.S. plans for such a base so close to its borders.

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Russia can't use "disproportionate force" against Georgia and still be welcomed into the halls of international institutions, Rice said.

"It's not going to happen that way," she said. "Russia will pay a price."

But neither Rice nor Defense Secretary Robert Gates would be specific about what punitive actions the U.S. or the international community might take.

"We're going to take our time and assess what further consequences there should be to the relationship," Rice said.

The United States wants to take a tough stance against Russia, but there is much at stake.

"The facts are that the United States has to work with Russia on Iran, on nuclear problems of proliferation, on a whole raft of trade issues at a time in which the United States has a huge domestic deficit," said Sen. Richard Lugar, the senior Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

And holding open the prospect of taking steps against Russia gives the United States some leverage in pushing Russia to withdraw from Georgia. But nothing is expected to happen in a hurry, and the United States doesn't want to turn the conflict into a fight between the former Cold War rivals.

"There is no need to rush into everything," Gates said. "We don't want to do it unilaterally.

"I think there needs to be a strong, unified response to Russia to send the message that this kind of behavior, characteristic of the Soviet period, has no place in the 21st century," he said.

Asked whether Russia should be kicked out of the Group of Eight major industrialized states, or whether it should be kept from joining the World Trade Organization, Gates replied vaguely, saying the U.S. and its allies can choose from a broad menu of possible punitive steps. Russia already is feeling repercussions, he said.

"The whole world is looking at Russia through a different set of lenses than just a week and a half or two weeks ago, so there are already consequences," Gates said. "I think they may not appreciate the magnitude of those consequences yet. The longer they take to get out and to observe the cease-fire that's been declared and the arrangements that have been worked out, I think the greater those consequences will be."

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said Russian troops will begin leaving Monday, but made no mention of leaving the separatist province at the heart of the conflict between the countries.

The Bush administration is hopeful yet skeptical that Russia will honor its pledge to withdraw troops quickly from Georgia under terms of a cease-fire it signed Saturday.

"My own view is that the Russians will probably stall and perhaps take more time than anybody would like," Gates said. "I think we just need to keep the pressure and ensure that they abide by the agreement that they've signed and do so in a timely way."

The Russians say they're going to take their time in leaving the South Carolina-sized democracy that declared its independence in 1991.

Konstantin Kosachev, chairman of the Russian parliament's foreign affairs committee, said Russian forces will be out of Georgia "sooner or later," but how much time it takes depends on how Georgia behaves.

Echoing Bush's call to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq depending on conditions on the ground, Kosachev said: "If I would ask you ... `How fast the American forces can leave Iraq?' ... the answer would be, as soon as we have guarantees for peace and security there.

"The same answer would be toward this situation: as soon as we are assured that Georgians will not continue to use military force against South Ossetians and against Abkhazians" _ residents of two separatist areas of Georgia now overrun with Russian troops and abandoned by Georgian soldiers.

Rice and Gates pressed the administration's case during appearances on five Sunday talks shows _ Rice on "Fox News Sunday," CBS' "Face the Nation" and NBC's "Meet the Press," and Gates on ABC's "This Week" and "Late Edition" on CNN. Kosachev and Lugar also appeared on CNN.

CRAWFORD, Texas — The United States on Sunday accused Russia of stalling its military pullback in Georgia, but the Bush administration is not rushing to repudiate Moscow for its actions. The Wh...
CRAWFORD, Texas — The United States on Sunday accused Russia of stalling its military pullback in Georgia, but the Bush administration is not rushing to repudiate Moscow for its actions. The Wh...
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- lisakaz2 I'm a Fan of lisakaz2 106 fans permalink
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Only the US is allowed to invade countries apparently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 08/17/2008

The other world leaders look at Condi as a joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 08/17/2008
- dtrobert I'm a Fan of dtrobert 8 fans permalink

Because she is... She went from being a mediocre academic "sovietologist" to a mediocre mid-level government bureaucrat. And her career went downhill from there...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 08/17/2008

And which in which McD are you flipping burgers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 08/18/2008
- Jen326 I'm a Fan of Jen326 8 fans permalink

I really hope so

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 08/17/2008
- Quaoar I'm a Fan of Quaoar 31 fans permalink
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Send Bush, Cheney, and Condi there. That's punishment enough for any nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 08/17/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 48 fans permalink
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Just like the service personel and the citzens of Iraq?

When Russia suspends the oil and gas to Europe we'll see who else pays a price!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 08/17/2008
- Crake I'm a Fan of Crake 2 fans permalink

And when will the White House be punished for its illegal invasion of Iraq?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 08/17/2008

Well, the White House set the precedent for invading little countries that posed no real threat. Oh, look - here comes a roosting chickenhawk!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 08/17/2008

Maybe Russia is the price we are paying for Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 08/17/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 49 fans permalink

Boggles my mind that everyone just overlooks our offenses against Iraq by invading, overturning a sovereign nation, occupying and oppressing. Who are we to throw stones?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 08/17/2008
- Bozwellian I'm a Fan of Bozwellian 32 fans permalink

Thw hubris ad chutpahing by Bush and his cohorts is amazing as their arrogance and ignorance continues to parade about with McCain chortling in as if HE has a grip on the realities this nation is quagmired in. HOW is it they "seem" to fail to comprehend the shock and awe held by the rest of the world of what the USA has become under the leadership/management of the Bush brigade ? IS ASTOUNDING and yet , we have citizens who are grasping at similar straws incapable of comprehending the damage the Bushlers have indeed done to prestige, our power , our integrity and more and to see where some are embracing McCain and claimed too concerned that Obama lacks judgement or ability , further astounding and perhaps more just our innate racist "tudes showing thru but as NOT politically correct to admit, use ridiculous frivalous nonsense to disparage him and claim they just do not "know" therefore do not feel they can "trust". This nation has the opportunity, the choice is critical and btw, there IS NO WAY Obama will be able to sooth all the frazzlizations, but will be a step forward to altrenatives rather than endless war and all such that devastates us even more !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 08/17/2008
- danelle1 I'm a Fan of danelle1 2 fans permalink

I agree, especially if you take into consideration that Russian Peace Keepers were killed by Georgian actions. In comparison, Russia had more reasons to invade and defend its people in Georgia than the US did by invading Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 08/17/2008

how will our relationship with russia affect our ability to get to the space station once the shuttle stops flying?

obama revealed his new nasa plan today...and it includes extending the shuttle program:

http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/08/it-is-rocket-sc.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 08/17/2008
- Beka13 I'm a Fan of Beka13 28 fans permalink
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I saw him in Titusville a few weeks ago and he mentioned then that we shouldnt rely on the Russians to fly to the Space Station....Strangely the Media failed to report on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 08/17/2008
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Penalize Russia because they stopped a US/Israeli/Ukrainian backed assault on Ossetia?

My, my, my... will the hypocrisy ever end?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 PM on 08/17/2008
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