Affirmative Action Ban Likely To Be Stripped From Arizona Ballot, Opponents Say

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First Posted: 08-19-08 12:50 PM   |   Updated: 09-19-08 05:12 AM

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On Monday, opponents of an Arizona ballot initiative that would bar public institutions from adopting affirmative action policies filed what observers believe will be a successful lawsuit to block the measure from reaching the ballot this fall.

They are accusing paid signature gatherers of submitting over 100,000 fraudulent or suspicious signatures to Arizona's secretary of state in order to meet hurdles for qualifying the citizen-sponsored initiative -- one of several such state-by-state efforts promoted across the country this year by conservative activist and longtime affirmative action foe Ward Connerly.

State Representative Kyrsten Sinema organized a cadre of 1,000 volunteers who worked around the clock at a local union hall for 18 days in order to eyeball 325,000 signatures turned in by Connerly's Arizona allies. Perhaps the most interesting signature they found was from one "Momar Kadafie" -- a variant on Libyan leader Muammar Qaddaffi's name. (See the signature page here.) Arizona's anti-affirmative action "Kadafie" listed his country as "Saudie Arabia" and his hometown as "Tebet," alongside an Arizona zip code of 85007. That signature on a campaign circular came right after others from Jimmy Carter and "Jerry" Ford, representing quite the pow-wow of world leaders (both living and dead). Another page featured John Hancocks from John and Robert Kennedy.

"The questionable and misleading signature-gathering tactics brought into Arizona by Connerly have had a far-reaching impact on the ballot process generally in our state, and a number of propositions have been tossed," Sinema said in a statement that announced Monday's lawsuit. In another conversation with the Huffington Post, the Arizona Democrat (who is also a lawyer and professor of social work) said that the very idea of Connerly using out-of-state money to bring his pet obsession into her backyard "kind of pissed me off, I'll be honest."

Noting that Arizona has a different higher education environment than California -- where Connerly posted his first big anti-affirmative action victory in 1996 with the infamous Proposition 209 -- Sinema says the impact of the measure would be disastrous. "Unlike in California, Arizona does not have a robust private university system," she said, noting that such schools can disregard Connerly's ballot initiatives since they are not run by the state. "Almost all of our schools are state schools. So we wouldn't have had the ability to find [alternate] scholarships or opportunities for minority students."

On the procedural front, Sinema says her group's effort to cast doubt on over 100,000 signatures proceeds on a separate track from the county by county check of whether the signatories are actually registered voters. When taken together, Sinema says "I'm sure the measure is going to be de-certified."

The ballot measure's fate now rests with Arizona Secretary of State Jan Brewer, who has already tossed three other initiatives from the ballot this year on procedural grounds. She could issue a ruling as early as Tuesday or Wednesday.

Connerly calls Sinema's efforts the "same old" kind of opposition he's faced in other states in the past, but does concede that the scale of her effort is "unprecedented" in his experience. "The strategy of the those who oppose is to keep us off the ballot," Connerly told the Huffington Post. Indeed, when Connerly's initiatives do make a state ballot, they tend to prevail, sometimes by large margins. He said he is optimistic that his measures will appear on ballots in Nebraska and Colorado this fall.

The activist concedes, however, that "there may be trouble in Arizona," but adds that there is "built-in fraud" in the initiative process. In a counter-claim of fraud, Connerly says his Arizona allies were approached by moles from a group called By Any Means Necessary who he says attempted to sabotage their campaign by offering sheet after sheet of "obviously fraudulent" signatures. Responding to claim by Sinema that some initiative pages appeared to indicate that a group of signature gatherers had simply passed their sheets around in a circle, signing each one, Connerly mused that perhaps "they knew exactly what they were looking for" and had infiltrated his crew.

Connerly also defended other honest paid signature gatherers, citing their hot working conditions and their inability to challenge potentially fraudulent petition signers. "Jimmy Carter is a common name," Connerly said. "What are they gonna do, say 'I don't believe you'"? Still, Connerly admitted that Muammar Qaddafi is "a little less common," before adding that his allies are the ones who are ultimately harmed by any funny business. "We're the ones that are defrauded," he said. "We have to pay for any crap that's turned into us. It wouldn't surprise me at all if some signature gatherers tried to sneak some names by us."

A call to the National Ballot Access company, which collected signatures for Connerly's allies in Arizona, was not returned.

On Monday, opponents of an Arizona ballot initiative that would bar public institutions from adopting affirmative action policies filed what observers believe will be a successful lawsuit to block the...
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- moxieme I'm a Fan of moxieme 14 fans permalink

Mayby Dubya, Connerley, and PaCain can catch the next AF One flight to Georgia, in the other hemisphere. This country is going backwards at warp speed. By duplicitous design. And the whole world is watching, they are laughing at us, and mocking us, and pimping us, and entrapping us. What type of nation will we leave our children and grandchildren? It is all so very, very sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 08/19/2008

Connerly was duped by an industry that fraught with people who have thier own agenda. I collect signatures for a living and about 80 percent of the people collecting signatures were in it for the money. The people who collect signatures are reprehensible con men or women. In fact they have no political ideology. Will say or do anything for a buck, have drug addictions, alcohol problems, homeless or mentally unstable. Most times these circulators have no idea what they are petitioning.
Collecting signatures is probably the easiest thing to do, however people are so afraid to talk to strangers in public that the need for paid circulators came about, otherwise volunteers would get it done. People cant take the rejection.
So Ward if you would have done your research and hired people by the quality and not garden variety dirtbags, your petition would have qualified.
http://www.bamn.com/stopacri/fraudfinder.asp
Otherwise the initiiative has merit and should be put to a vote if the people feel their grievences arent be heard by thier representatives. That is why the initiative process was created:


WHEN THE GOVERNMENT cannot or will not legislate in the interest of the
people. The people have the right to take the legislative process into thier own
hands..
Without this right the people can only suffer oppression,
supression or revolution.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 08/19/2008
- edwcorey I'm a Fan of edwcorey 22 fans permalink

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
H. L. Mencken

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 08/19/2008
- Mdazes I'm a Fan of Mdazes 9 fans permalink

Sound like you know what you are talking about. If the workers had approach me I would have signed it Minnie Mouse and I bet you they would not have notice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 08/19/2008

But why file a lawsuit to block voters from having a chance to vote on the initiative? If a couple of the names on the petition are in question, then strike those names. However, I think the democratic process should have a chance to work. If the voters in AZ really want to get rid of AA, then they should be allowed to do so. Having lawsuits hold something like this up seems decidedly undemocratic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 08/19/2008
- doctorwang I'm a Fan of doctorwang 196 fans permalink
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If it's just "a couple" then there won't be much of a problem. If there are a considerable amount of fraudulent signatures then it won't make it onto the ballot. You can't have people submitting petitions with fake names for ballot initiatives. If it was allowed then anyone would be able to have whatever measure they wished placed on the ballot. There would be thousands of propositions listed whenever you went to vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 08/19/2008

I think I'd like to propose a ballot initiative in AZ, requiring all state police use fur lined handcuffs. I've got Daffy Duck, Spuds Mckenzie and Golda Meir already signed up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 08/19/2008

100,000 out of 325,00 is not "a couple." It's almost 1/3. When they strike the names, they won't have enough signatures. Allowing the measure to be on the ballot in these circumstances is sanctioning electoral fraud. The signature requirements are there for a reason. This is not something about which anyone truly committed to the democratic process would be so cavalier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 08/19/2008
- edwcorey I'm a Fan of edwcorey 22 fans permalink

Arizona is overwhelmingly white. Most of its officials are white. You think they'd like to endow anyone else with the privilege of making a decent living or getting a decent education?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 08/19/2008

mpeachhead;

How ReThuglican of you backwoods Arizona racists. The hometown of the walking, talking gaffe machine, that think he is going to get by on his so called hero status.

He is so self righteous about being all for the people. He's all for the rich people, because he is one and God forbid anyone should tamper with his wife's money. He willing to tax the poor unfairly but cater to the wealthy.

You know that unfair advantage you people claim the African Americans have with Affirmative Action, why don't you take a good look in the mirror and see why that is. I was in human resources and I' ve seen the discrimination in pay first hand.

Affirmative Action doesn't benefit African Americans, it benefits all women as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 08/19/2008

I'm not from Arizona, nor am I a racist. I just made a statement that the democratic process should be allowed to work itself out and not be held up with lawsuits. You turned it into a personal attack. You strike me as a particularly nasty person. I would steer clear of someone as mean spirited as you on the street. I hope I'm there when you fall off your high horse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 AM on 08/20/2008

I'm an Obama supporter, BTW. Your lashing out at everyone who doesn't agree with you isn't going to help our chances of getting him elected in the fall. People like you are the bane of the Democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 08/20/2008
- genmalia I'm a Fan of genmalia 6 fans permalink

The point is, the people who signed the petitions were not given the actual purpose of the proposition. The name of the ballot initiative make it look like a Civil Rights initiative, which is intentionally misleading.

The fact that this is supported by white supremacy groups is questionable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 08/19/2008

Yes! I'm sick of people wanting equal opportunity. I think it was MLK who said we "should judge people by the color of their skin".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 08/19/2008

Except AA does not promote equal opportunity. It promotes moving someone ahead of the line. Wanting equality is a great thing, but simply reversing the roles does not accomplish that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 08/19/2008
- mlr710 I'm a Fan of mlr710 5 fans permalink

That's not what affirmative action is. That's your warped view of what it is as fed to you from some moronic right-wing talking point. Affirmative action doesn't move someone ahead of a line as if they aren't qualified to be in the line in the first place. Your sense of entitlement is threatened and you're lashing out at affirmative action. That's the real problem isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 08/19/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 269 fans permalink
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Just like John McCain getting into the NA and flight school because of admiral dad

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 08/19/2008
- SpoxLogic I'm a Fan of SpoxLogic 21 fans permalink

Your comment doesn't make any sense. How can you be sick of people wanting equal opportunity? Are you saying that since you don't desire to further yourself and move up in your lifestyle, that everyone else should be like you? Are you saying that you are happy and content where you are? Well, if that is the case, then please don't blame someone if they want to move up and better themself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 08/19/2008
- JMBrodie I'm a Fan of JMBrodie 281 fans permalink
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Read a book. Learn about the history of this nation and people who made great contributions only to have those contributions discredited, stolen, ignored, killed because they -- as we said back in the day -- lacked the complexion for the connection.

It was only in the past couple of decades that it became legal to be Black in this country. For example, I read an article recently about a group of African Americans who attended the 1960 or 1964 Democratic Convention. They were not allowed to be seated as delegates but there they were anyway. I doubt if you can imagine what they must be feeling seeing Obama standing as the standard bearer for a party that once refuse to recognize them.

Or my father, who graduated high school in Baltimore a year early, honor roll, from the same school that produced Thurgood Marshall, but could not attend the University of Maryland because it did not admit Blacks. Can you imagine his feeling watching his son (me) graduate for the University of Colorado in the 1980s, a school with a policy similar to Maryland’s.

Once you know the history of a thing you will know how we got to a certain point. And then you will stop blaming a system that has benefitted whites more than Blacks as somehow damaging you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 08/19/2008
- kcam44 I'm a Fan of kcam44 13 fans permalink
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you need a history lesson obviously..people of color did not get equality (and some still don't) many years ago. I don't agree with moving someone ahead of the line, but I do agree with giving blacks the same opportunities as whites..i.e bank loans, corporate careers, acting roles in hollywood, ceo's...etc...please don't distort the ugly truth in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 08/19/2008
- YunekFlava I'm a Fan of YunekFlava 68 fans permalink
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Now , we are being a little hard on ole Johnny boy and the wonderful efforts being made on behalf of affirmative action. After all he would consult Rep John Lewis on these such matters. That's like saying "oh, I'm not a racist, because I have Black friends". By the way, he has never and would never consult John Lewis on annything. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 08/19/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

is not AA by its definition racist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 08/19/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Was not AA started to combat racism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 08/19/2008
- SpoxLogic I'm a Fan of SpoxLogic 21 fans permalink

Maybe to combat institutional racism. Societal racism is another beast onto itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 08/19/2008

Oh really? How do you think GWB got into an MBA program at Princeton, or maybe it was Harvard but you get my point. And one other oddity you should look into is John McAdmiral's admission to the Naval Academy. You see, as a young AfAm during those years, I had excellent grades, high SAT, but could not get into any academy simply because of racial preference of another kind. My neighbor who's white is an executive of a major soft drink company and you guessed it his 'average' sons have no problems getting great jobs with this company when home for summer break. My sons on the other hand have equal or better grades but get no such breaks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 08/19/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

that was by nepotism and patronage.... we are not talking Chicago politics here ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 08/19/2008
- FanofPaine I'm a Fan of FanofPaine 12 fans permalink

No. If the statement stated by black in America that aired on CNN that white men with a conviction are more likely to get a job then a black men with a high school diploma and no felonies is correct then this is just leveling the playing field. The truth of the matter is that helping pay for black and hispanic people to attend college and get jobs, keeps from having to pay for them to be in prison, which I think is a worse and more costly burden to society.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 08/19/2008

We could make prisoners work and have prison pay for a lot of its costs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 08/19/2008
- Delle I'm a Fan of Delle 2 fans permalink

YES - it is!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 08/19/2008

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 08/19/2008
- CindyM2008 I'm a Fan of CindyM2008 9 fans permalink
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You realize WOMEN (i.e., white women) benefit from affirmative action too, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 08/19/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

so by definition AA is sexist and racist .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 08/19/2008
- Delle I'm a Fan of Delle 2 fans permalink

If there is fraud involved here, it should be further investigated and punished.

However, I am truly shocked at some of the comments appearing on this site.

Mr. Connerly is merely trying to preserve the dignity of his race.

Who among you out there would enjoy be accepted in a school, or given a job, etc. just because of your race and color?

I swear to you and to God, that if I was pushed ahead of every one else because I was too dumb to make it on my own, I'd be so upset and embarrassed, I would hide.

I swear I would.

Imagine a world where people can make it on their own - without affirmative discrimation.

I guess I'm dreaming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 08/19/2008
- SamiSam I'm a Fan of SamiSam 14 fans permalink
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You are voicing much of the misinformation about affirmative action that prevails in this country. Affirmative action is not for people who are less qualified or "dumb". It is to ensure that QUALIFIED people are given a foot in the door in cases where it would otherwise be slammed in their face due to race or gender. It is to be used more in environments that are not as diverse as the communities they lie in.

Mr. Connerly is a shame to his/my race. If you ask 10 Black people informed on the subject their opinion of him, I would predict a large amount of eye rolling and furrowed brows. In my eyes he suffers from much self-hatred, but that's another post.

I would love to imagine a world where people could "make it on their own". But, unfortunately we live in a country/world in which racism and sexism is still very prevalent (as evidenced by this election season). It is only natural to gravitate to ones own due to familiarity but not to the detriment of others. So until we do away with fears of each other due to race or gender, we will still need affirmative action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 08/19/2008
- Delle I'm a Fan of Delle 2 fans permalink

I believe that Mr. Connerly is proud of himself and his race.

As for your comment - if I were to enter a black area - such as The Bronx or Brooklyn - and find ten black men or women to ask their opinion concerning Mr. Connerly - I would almost bet my right arm that none of them would even know who Mr. Connerly is!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 08/19/2008
- CindyM2008 I'm a Fan of CindyM2008 9 fans permalink
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Exactly. Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 08/19/2008
- PATina I'm a Fan of PATina 262 fans permalink
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The problem is people like you... who forget that Affirmative Action was created to rectify the practice of excluding Blacks SOLELY because of race. Before Affirmative Action... many African Americans w/ college degrees worked as janitors and unskilled laborers becuase their race kept them out of their fields of experience. They weren't "too dumb to make it on their own"... they just couldn't get hired or accepted to schools because of race. Affirmative action should have ended that practice of exclusion regardless of qualification.

But people like you automatically assume that Blacks are "less qualified" or "too dumb to make it on their own"... and believe that affirmative action gives them opportunities they shouldn't have. So very wrong.

For example... I had the right degree and expeirence for the job I hold... however, I was hired because I knew the right person (nepotism) and it gave me the edge over the other "qualified" candidates. Should I be "upset and embarrassed" because I had a little help? That's how Affirmative Action is supposed to work. It's not a substitute for qualifications... just a little extra credit.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 08/19/2008

You are dreaming. WAKE UP! I went to a top law school and graduated magna cum laude and people at my law firm assume I'm a secretary when they see me in the hall.

We've got a lot more problems with race other than affirmative action.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 08/19/2008
- Delle I'm a Fan of Delle 2 fans permalink

Yes Angry,
You have a right to be angry when others do not recognise your position.
This is exactly my point!
Possibly those others question your degree because of the affirmative discrimination policies that are now in place.
Such as - did she really achieve this, or . . . . .
Can you understand that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 08/19/2008
- FanofPaine I'm a Fan of FanofPaine 12 fans permalink

You are dreaming because you don't understand affirmative action. What AA does is enable qualified (key word here is qualified) people to get a chance at a good college or job. This rarely impacts white men at all. In fact, the majority (70%) of AA beneficiaries are white women. AA discrimination that hurts white people is rare and certainly doesn't overcome the amount of actual racism used in blocking people from getting a job, such as using their names to discredit them from getting a job if it is viewed too "black" or "hispanic".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 08/19/2008

So, its ok to huiort someone, as long as it is just a few people?

What AA does is put a potentially qualified person ahead of other potentially qualified people for no other reason than their race.

All you do is punish an applicant because the employer may have some bias. The applicant has done nothing wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 08/19/2008

Better you imagine a world where all children start with an even playing field, a world where family money, ethnicity, or social status do not give one child an advantage over another, a world in which all children can achieve their full potential. Sadly for too many years we allowed a system of bias to exist where race, money and connections encouraged success in one group and discouraged it in another. This systemic bias is the very reason affirmative action came into being.

No matter how much they may deny its effect, Ward Connerly, Clarance Thomas, Colin Powel, and yes Barack Obama, owe a debt to the doors that were opened by affirmative action. Are they where they are today because they were given an unfair boost? I think not. But without the changes affirmative action has brought to our society they most likely would not be in the leadership positions they hold today

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 PM on 08/19/2008
- demfriend I'm a Fan of demfriend 24 fans permalink
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The signatures on the petition are obviously fraud so what is to be gained by this type of fraud? It is weird to think that by adding dead people including dead presidents to a petition would not raise huge red flags as to what the petition signature gatherers are trying to make happen. Surely as with other kinds of fraud this should be looked at and if the petition has such "dead people" on it the whole thing should be toosed and a valid petition signing be done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that dead people don't pop out of the grave just to support and sign pettions!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 08/19/2008

What's gained? Republican voter turnout. Think of it as a ballot dog whistle to get the Republican core to the polls in November. Without the issues to feed their bigotry, many wouldn't bother to show up. It's not about principles, it's about keeping the status quo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 08/19/2008
- JJ30 I'm a Fan of JJ30 3 fans permalink

Believe me, if McCain is elected and have it his way, Roe vs wade will be overturned as well as AA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 08/19/2008
- Delle I'm a Fan of Delle 2 fans permalink

The president - whoever - has no authority to overturn RvW. It was a court decsion and a bad one.

This matter should be left to the states.

I am from N.Y. where abortion has always been legal.

In RvW the feds stepped into an area in which they don't belong.

As far as AA - the feds have no right to discrimate.

At least I always thought that was true.

And yet, now it seems to be legal to allow some folks to get ahead, regardless of their qualification, merely because of their looks.

And you are defending this practice?

Go figure!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 08/19/2008

I'll bet you disagree with 'Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka',. Equal education should be up to the states, too...right? Yes, abortion rights should affect women differently, depending on which state you haapen to be born in....right?

But, you know what? I'm beginning to see the light. You and your kind should pick the states where you want to repress women. blacks, minorities - be openly rascist, do your home schoolin', and take the words of the Bible and guns as the only law. Me? I'll choose to live in the enlightened and progressive states and enjoy watching your eventual de-evolution

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 08/19/2008
- WillNYC I'm a Fan of WillNYC 9 fans permalink
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LEARN TO READ... as stated by many here AA only assures people with the same or better qualifications are not skipped over because of GENDER or race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 08/19/2008

Well! in Arizona we have senator John McCain who believes in slavery!
John McCain voted against raising the minimum wage in, 1989, 1996, 1998, 2000, and 2006.
He never once flipped to help the poorest Americans.
His answer is to import more Mexicans to work for slave wages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 08/19/2008

Why is this Arizona resident not supporting John McCain?
With out question it is his lack of support for our state in Washington.
McCain’s call to fame is that he is the only representative in Washington never to request any earmarks for his home state. What does that prove? To me it shows that in McCain’s mind Arizona is so wealthy that we do not need any assistance from Washington. It seems he is happy to see all the tax dollars that we send to DC go to other states. Wake up John McCain! Arizona has Indian Reservations with unemployment over 60%. We have beautiful rural areas that would greatly benefit from an increase in tourism. McCain’s lack of concern for Arizona shows that when John and Cindy fly over our state in their private plane that they do not pay attention to the people that live outside of Scottsdale. Lets see if in November the citizens of Arizona will send him a message and not vote for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 08/19/2008
- srtjsrtj I'm a Fan of srtjsrtj 2 fans permalink

John McCain publicy said he supported the measure. So where John McCain is there always seems to be a lot of games being played, lobbyists running the show and unfairness in the process.

No surprises here. It's the Repbulican Brand

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 08/19/2008
- srtjsrtj I'm a Fan of srtjsrtj 2 fans permalink

Connerly is a Complete Disgrace to his Community and the Nation. The thought that a Mechanism is not needed to level the playing field for Qualified Canidates is just wrong. Connerly and Justice Thoms the very Recipients of Affirmation Action now that they have become Rich Powerful feel that others of Color should not have the same Advantages or play by the same rules.

THis is a great example of the Hen thinking they are running the Hen house when in essence they are being laughed about while being used to achieve the goals of those with the least of good intentions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 08/19/2008
- PATina I'm a Fan of PATina 262 fans permalink
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The thought that a Mechanism is not needed to level the playing field for Qualified Canidates is just wrong. It's funny how people who got where they are via affirmative action (Connerly, Thomas, et al) say it's no longer needed. How would they know?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 08/19/2008
- edwcorey I'm a Fan of edwcorey 22 fans permalink

Because they are inferior and decided any program that would allow THEM to succeed must not be much good. Connerly's a protege of Cal. ex-governor Pete Wilson, and his consulting firm received the benefit of affirmative action consulting contracts from the government. It's disgusting. But that's how Republicanism works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 08/19/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 234 fans permalink

Round 2:

Disgusting, but not surprising.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 08/19/2008

Signature fraud seems to be a hallmark of these "conservative" initiative groups. Signature circles also seem to have been used in Oregon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 08/19/2008
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